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Don't display American Flag in American school.
volokh.com ^ | 11/10/11 | Eugene Volokh

Posted on 11/10/2011 2:40:34 PM PST by MrNJ

Dariano v. Morgan Hill Unified School District (N.D. Cal.), decided the day before yesterday, upholds a California high school’s decision to forbid students from wearing American flag T-shirts on Cinco de Mayo. (See here and here for more on this case.)

On Cinco de Mayo in 2009, a verbal exchange and altercation arose between a group of predominantly white and a group of Mexican students. This altercation involved an exchange of profanities and threats were made. A makeshift American flag was put on one of the trees on campus. A group of Caucasian students began clapping and chanting “USA” as this flag went up. This was in response to a group of Mexican students walking around with the Mexican flag. One Mexican student shouted “fuck them white boys, fuck them white boys.” Vice–Principal Rodriguez directed the minor to stop using such profanity. The minor responded by saying “But Rodriguez, they are racist. They are being racist. Fuck them white boys. Let’s fuck them up.” Vice–Principal Rodriguez removed the minor from the area....

When Plaintiff M.D. wore an American flag shirt to school on Cinco de Mayo 2009, he was approached by a male student who shoved a Mexican flag at him and said something in Spanish expressing anger at Plaintiffs’ clothing....

(Excerpt) Read more at volokh.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: California
KEYWORDS: aztlan; flag; hispanics; immigration; mexifornia; recoquitas; scum; socialists; speech; unamaerican
First they insult you with racial slurs.
Then you are prohibited from displaying American Flag.
Insult to injury...
1 posted on 11/10/2011 2:40:36 PM PST by MrNJ
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To: MrNJ

What do you expect from pagan, anti-American Ninth District Court?


2 posted on 11/10/2011 2:44:47 PM PST by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: bimboeruption

Add homosexual to that list of anti-Americanism.

They deny logic, reason and science which will destroy “Rule of Law” and create bizarre, unequal, arbitrary laws, based on barney frank standards and not based on the philosophy of the Constitution and Legal System.

What they are doing: destroying Natural Rights under God.


3 posted on 11/10/2011 2:48:12 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: MrNJ
That is the Change Hussein Obama spoke of.

I never thought I'd see the day. . .

4 posted on 11/10/2011 2:49:57 PM PST by Realman30 ("I've already made a donation to Haiti. It's called taxes". . . . El Rushbo.)
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To: MrNJ
Defendants respond that Plaintiffs have offered no evidence demonstrating that students wearing the colors of the Mexican flag were likely to be targeted for violence, and that officials treated all students for whose safety they feared in the same manner.

Here, for the reasons discussed above, Defendants have provided a non-discriminatory basis for asking Plaintiffs to remove their American flag attire. Defendants have put forth significant evidence demonstrating that Plaintiffs were asked to change clothes in order to protect their own safety. Plaintiffs have not offered any evidence demonstrating that students wearing the colors of the Mexican flag were targeted for violence. To the contrary, the undisputed evidence shows that Plaintiffs were the only students on campus whose safety was threatened that day, at least to the knowledge of Defendants.

According to the court, the school (defendant) does not have to ensure that all students can safely wear a chosen flag or else enforce a "no flag" rule for everyone. Instead, the court rules that the school can forbid students for their own safety from wearing a flag, and take no steps against those who threaten their safety.

5 posted on 11/10/2011 2:51:22 PM PST by heartwood
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To: MrNJ

The culture war is over, America lost.


6 posted on 11/10/2011 2:58:37 PM PST by VicVega (Geaux LSU, Geaux Saints)
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To: MrNJ

All Mexicans are Spanish descendants. They don’t speak the native language (any of the 63) and they don’t know their own history. They think that they owned the Southwest before Spain. I think that the Navaho’s, Apache’s and Hopi’s might disagree with that.


7 posted on 11/10/2011 3:01:47 PM PST by SkyDancer ('If you want to learn to love better, you should start with a friend who you hate ")
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To: VicVega

This isn’t over yet, not by any stretch of the imagination.


8 posted on 11/10/2011 3:03:15 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (I'm toning it down as much as I can.)
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To: MrNJ
The approach from the very beginning should have been our language, our culture, our lifestyle and of course, our flag. If you don't like it, leave. Instead we let the genie out of the bottle with all our PC, tolerance and diversity horse crap and now we have to turn it around.
9 posted on 11/10/2011 3:05:29 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: paul51

We went from a ‘melting pot’ to a ‘tossed salad.’


10 posted on 11/10/2011 3:07:41 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: MrNJ

Where does their salary come from? Tax Payers. Duh?


11 posted on 11/10/2011 3:13:52 PM PST by hadaclueonce ("Endeavor to persevere.")
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To: SirLurkedalot

It’s a very slow painful death. No one will stand up the way the other groups have come together to destroy our country in the name of their culture.

Sad! Thank goodness one of our greatest generation of people are just about gone so they don’t have to see it.


12 posted on 11/10/2011 3:15:58 PM PST by VicVega (Geaux LSU, Geaux Saints)
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To: savagesusie

couldn’t have said it better myself.


13 posted on 11/10/2011 3:16:58 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman. I HATE OUR BIAS LIBERAL CORRUPT MEDIA)
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To: VicVega

not over if we speak out on social issues, the only reason the left has nearly destroyed this country is because many stayed silent because of PC.

Well I for one will not shut up and I will speak out on normal marriage, their agenda and issues like this.


14 posted on 11/10/2011 3:18:36 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman. I HATE OUR BIAS LIBERAL CORRUPT MEDIA)
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To: MrNJ
Please, it is about using your body as a billboard. If they have a dress code, they have the right to enforce it. That has been in the courts how many times now.
15 posted on 11/10/2011 3:19:27 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: MrNJ

Excellent -

I suggest Congress move immediately to suspend 1 day of federal funding for all federally funded programs in the school district.

If our flag isn’t welcome, then neither should our money be.

And all American students should stay home that day. AND wear little American flag pins every day of the year - except “hooray for ignorant Mexican day” - which they can all celebrate - by breaking some law of their choice, or maybe denying rights to others.

In fact - now that I think about it - I now declare Cinqo de Mexico = “Break any Law you Want” day. Maybe we could all go to Mexican restaurants - and pay with stolen ID.


16 posted on 11/10/2011 3:22:40 PM PST by Eldon Tyrell
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To: SkyDancer
Wrong. Most Mexicans are racially mixed, with just as much injun blood, often more, than white European Spanish blood.

we need more Americans with ball to put a stop to this. I hear this and feel like burning the Guadalupe virgin in effigy.

17 posted on 11/10/2011 3:26:02 PM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: VicVega
I grew up in California, not far from Morgan Hill, and watched this invasion firsthand. I thank God my WW2 vet grandfather isn't around to watch this. He passed in 1991 and so thankfully he didn't have to see 9/11 happen either.

I think we're almost out of time to turn this around.

When will we stand up and be counted?
I wish I knew the answer.
FReegards,
SirL

18 posted on 11/10/2011 3:37:05 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (I'm toning it down as much as I can.)
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To: Clemenza

Well when I said descendants I was meaning that the Spaniards interbred with natives. Mexicans today are more Spanish than Mexicans. Once I was told by a Mexican that I should go back to Europe. I’m native American, I was born here. I told him to go back to Mexico or Spain if he didn’t like it here.


19 posted on 11/10/2011 3:46:12 PM PST by SkyDancer ('If you want to learn to love better, you should start with a friend who you hate ")
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To: MrNJ
forbid students from wearing American flag T-shirts on Cinco de Mayo

1. I think the flag should be held in higher regard. I don't wear American flag clothing, and I don't approve of it on others.

2. Despite that view, it's a form of protected expression, whether the kids intend it as respectful or not. The school should enforce order but not censor.

20 posted on 11/10/2011 4:48:11 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: SkyDancer
All Mexicans are Spanish descendants.

Hokum. By the time of the Mexican Revolution, the number of Spanish was still small. Mexicans are Central American Indians, for the most part.

They think that they owned the (American) Southwest before Spain.

They didn't "own" any of California either, ever, but it is what they're taught in school, both here and in Mexico. This is a war that didn't end with the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo; Mexico is bent on conquest.

21 posted on 11/10/2011 7:17:15 PM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Carry_Okie
I read too much of Mexican history to argue the point. In any event, they, the real Mexicans - are the Mexico-Tenochtitlan.

The Nahuatl word Mēxihco is composed of the root Mexi and a suffix -co that means "place" or "city." The full name of the city, Mexico-Tenochtitlan, means "the place of the Mexica among the stone-cactuses," - they never were in the Southwest because, as I mentioned, the Indians there would have thrown them out.

22 posted on 11/10/2011 7:37:59 PM PST by SkyDancer ('If you want to learn to love better, you should start with a friend who you hate ")
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To: SkyDancer

I’ve been to Spain. The Mexicans are as Spanish as Jessie Jackson or Julian Bond are white. I do get your basic point, however.


23 posted on 11/10/2011 7:41:56 PM PST by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: SkyDancer
In any event, they, the real Mexicans - are the Mexico-Tenochtitlan.

No argument there; you were saying that they are ALL Spanish descendants. All I was saying is that there are a good many without a drop of Spanish blood.

24 posted on 11/10/2011 8:36:37 PM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: MrNJ
This was just a matter of time.

The same people who banned the Confederate Battle Flag for being too divisive is after the American Flag.

How divisity thingy working out for you?

25 posted on 11/11/2011 4:07:05 PM PST by RedMonqey (A politician's integrity is usually only as strong as his poll numbers.)
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