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DA Ray Gricar disappears with his HD destroy; was his murder related to Paterno and Spanier?(vanity)
Vanity | 11/10/11

Posted on 11/10/2011 4:20:50 PM PST by GreaterSwiss

DA Ray Gricar was missing in 2005. No apparent reason was found. His hard drive was destroyed on puposes. Now apparently one reason pops up

-Either he was about to go after Paterno/Spanier/etc and crew(and they ordered him murdered -He was complicit with them and about to be found out

1999-Paterno, AD, Pres Spanier work a deal so then Defensive Coordinator at the top of his game walks away after caught doing stuff. He was sent to run a Child's Foundation (gasp)

2002-PSU assistant sees Defensive Coordinator molesting kid. He reports to Paterno who tells inner circle(Pres,AD,others complicit). Nothing happens.

2005-DA disappears for no reason. Could he have been either investigating the case or complicit and about to be found out?

At 11:30 a.m. (EDT) on April 15, 2005, Gricar called Patty Fornicola, his live-in girlfriend, to inform her that he was driving through the Brush Valley area northeast of Centre Hall.[9] Fornicola reported Gricar missing 12 hours later when he failed to return home.[9]

Gricar's car, a red MINI Cooper, was discovered the following day in an antique store parking lot in Lewisburg.[10] His county-issued cell phone was inside, but his laptop computer, keys, and wallet were missing, and there were no signs of foul play.[8] Police and family members noted that the location Authorities searched the river and its banks in the days following the vehicle's discovery, but found no sign of Gricar.[8] Pennsylvania authorities asked the FBI to analyze Gricar's bank accounts, credit card records, and cell phone records, but found no clues as to where he may have been.

On July 30, 2005, fishermen discovered Gricar's county-issued laptop computer in the Susquehanna River beneath a bridge between Lewisburg and Milton. A Pennsylvania State Police computer expert analyzed the computer and found that its hard drive was missing. Two months later, a hard drive was recovered on the banks of the Susquehanna River about 100 yards (91 m) from where the laptop was found and is believed to be Gricar's; however, it was badly damaged and analysis by the FBI, U.S. Secret Service, and the firm Kroll Ontrack – which had successfully recovered data from a hard drive recovered from the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster – were all unable to recover any data from the hard drive. In April 2009 Bellefonte police revealed that before his disappearance, Gricar used his home computer to perform internet searches on topics such as "how to wreck a hard drive", "how to fry a hard drive", and "water damage to a notebook computer".


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: chat; danielmckee; jackharclerode; paterno; raygricar; sandusky; vanity

1 posted on 11/10/2011 4:20:56 PM PST by GreaterSwiss
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To: GreaterSwiss
This was all reported this AM. Where is the evidence he was "murdered?"
2 posted on 11/10/2011 4:24:33 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

I don’t think he was murdered.

He was searching on his home computer for topics like how to wipe your hard drive, will water destroy a laptop, etc.

I think he pulled a disappearing act, for reasons best known only to him, and since he’s been declared legally dead (as of this year), I’d say he pulled it off pretty successfully.

Another poster speculated he could be in Slovenia, as he’d traveled there to visit family a few times. It’s possible. It’s not so easy nowadays to disappear, but it can still be done.


3 posted on 11/10/2011 4:29:10 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Link?


4 posted on 11/10/2011 4:30:04 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Help End FREEPATHONS.)
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To: GreaterSwiss
Hopefully someone with some insight will post a reply to your question.

I actually read up on the guy a bit this afternoon and it almost sounds like he just decided to drop off the edge of the earth and go create his own witness protection program in oh... Durant, Oklahoma. Two ex-wives, a live-in GF and somebody, somewhere, who stopped him from going after some of the PSU characters... I can see how it could get to a guy...

5 posted on 11/10/2011 4:30:09 PM PST by OKSooner (Today's new tagline. Tomorrow's new tagline pending.)
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To: GreaterSwiss

I’m not sure he was murdered; he could very well have committed suicide, or even staged his disappearance and gone into hiding. Maybe he was part of the pedo ring, and guilt got the better of him. Hard to say for sure.


6 posted on 11/10/2011 4:30:17 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: GreaterSwiss

I’m betting that the client list was on that hard drive.


7 posted on 11/10/2011 4:36:22 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

I recall the DA was black but there was something else distinguishing...was he homosexual too-


8 posted on 11/10/2011 4:39:46 PM PST by wardaddy (Ethnonationalist...I'll cop to that....Suicide of a Superpower...I've decided for Newt)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Yes folks said DA queer too...my my


9 posted on 11/10/2011 4:42:13 PM PST by wardaddy (Ethnonationalist...I'll cop to that....Suicide of a Superpower...I've decided for Newt)
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To: wardaddy

10 posted on 11/10/2011 4:49:11 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: GreaterSwiss

DA’s make lots of enemies.


11 posted on 11/10/2011 4:54:33 PM PST by randita (I'm not a percentage. I'm a free person.)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Maybe the DA was threatened if he didn’t turn over the computer, or destroy it, and give to them??? Could it be there is a ring of pedaphiles using that non profit org?? Maybe not, but it’s odd that so much has happened there in past few years.
What do you think?


12 posted on 11/10/2011 5:08:13 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

People committing suicide usually dont try like crazy to destroy a hard drive. I wonder if newer technology could restore the HD.

The DA may make enemies but Penn State is a sleepy town..If Sandusky was involved with high profile donors and all PSU higher ups knew it would be dangerous to go against them..


13 posted on 11/10/2011 5:16:41 PM PST by GreaterSwiss
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To: GreaterSwiss

He probably faked his death to leave the country and escape the ridiculous tax code and violations of personal privacy...


14 posted on 11/10/2011 5:25:59 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: GreaterSwiss
I think his murder was related to a different case. I read somewhere today that he was involved in the prosecution of heroin traffickers just prior to his disappearance.

We will likely never know.

15 posted on 11/10/2011 5:29:13 PM PST by GSWarrior (Click HERE to read the entire post.)
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To: GreaterSwiss

He’s sitting in a jail in Utah.......


16 posted on 11/10/2011 5:31:31 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: GreaterSwiss
Either he was about to go after Paterno/Spanier/etc and crew(and they ordered him murdered)

Michael Rivero, you certainly have a lot of screen names here......LOL!

17 posted on 11/10/2011 5:34:05 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Kackikat

I recall the DA was profiled and investigated for quite a while on Nancy Grace and Greta right after he disappeared. Never found.


18 posted on 11/10/2011 6:01:57 PM PST by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Why would it be related to Spanier and Paterno. If anything it’s related to Jerry Sandusky! Wow! People are really reaching!


19 posted on 11/10/2011 6:05:37 PM PST by Cricket24 (Proud to be a CONSERVATIVE WOMAN!!!!!!!)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

I would think all he would have to do in order to spike the case would be to not prosecute. Overwrite new files on top of the old ones, or not investigate the case to begin with. Or even take the laptop to Slovenia with you.

Are we certain it was Gricar that did the searches? Maybe his computer had a virus and those files were put there, or else a friend (possibly the girlfriend) used his computer and put them there.


20 posted on 11/10/2011 6:23:59 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: GreaterSwiss

I guess I could supposes the HD was destroyed on puposes, but I’ll need more facts before I knows-es.


21 posted on 11/10/2011 6:36:42 PM PST by isom35
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To: wardaddy
He drove his MINI COOPER to an ANTIQUE STORE??

Yes definitely gay. And I'm not joking.

Maybe he was part of the rumored boy-buggering ring that Sandusky set up
22 posted on 11/10/2011 6:40:32 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

“I think he pulled a disappearing act, for reasons best known only to him, and since he’s been declared legally dead (as of this year), I’d say he pulled it off pretty successfully.”

That’s an explanation that fits the evidence at hand.


23 posted on 11/10/2011 7:21:49 PM PST by Pelham (Every nation that rose to power did so by protecting its manufacturing base)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Yes folks said DA queer too...my my


24 posted on 11/10/2011 11:29:57 PM PST by wardaddy (Ethnonationalist...I'll cop to that....Suicide of a Superpower...I've decided for Newt)
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To: Paladin2

Redbone obviously....point taken


25 posted on 11/10/2011 11:46:41 PM PST by wardaddy (Ethnonationalist...I'll cop to that....Suicide of a Superpower...I've decided for Newt)
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To: varina davis; GreaterSwiss

Articles on Internet raise quesions on this:
http://elle-kynzer.wrytestuff.com/swa788850-Sandusky-Was-Not-Prosecuted-In-1998-By-The-Da-Who-Disappeared-In-2005-Why-Not.htm


26 posted on 11/11/2011 11:35:24 AM PST by Kackikat
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To: GreaterSwiss

Wasn’t Gricar also investigating the child abuse cases by Jack Harclerode of Lewisburg’s Bucknell University? I remember that going around when he disappeared.


27 posted on 11/14/2011 4:24:58 PM PST by GottaHabla
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Just did some research on D.A. Gricar — spooky — this guy looks familiar to me, like I have seen him somewhere. Could it be he’s hiding out, been bought off, and thinks nobody will know who he is. Now with his face being shown in the news — if he’s out there — he’s sure to be found.


28 posted on 11/15/2011 10:11:23 AM PST by TiaS
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Just did some research on D.A. Gricar — spooky — this guy looks familiar to me, like I have seen him somewhere. Could it be he’s hiding out, been bought off, and thinks nobody will know who he is. Now with his face being shown in the news — if he’s out there — he’s sure to be found.


29 posted on 11/15/2011 10:19:12 AM PST by TiaS
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To: GottaHabla

I wish the investigators in the Sandusky case would seriously look into a pedophilia ring in Pennsylvania.

I think Gricar’s disappearance has something to do with Harclerode and his connections.

Harclerode was still an active pedophiliac in 2005 when Ray made his last trip to Lewisburg. Harclerode still had the key to his office on the Bucknell campus (in Lewisburg, about a mile or two from the Antiques Mall.) It was in this office that he abused dozens of boys right up until his arrest in 2007.


30 posted on 11/17/2011 12:13:43 PM PST by Palladin (Where is Ray Gricar?)
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To: GreaterSwiss
Either he was about to go after Paterno/Spanier/etc and crew(and they ordered him murdered -He was complicit with them and about to be found out

You're nuts but then the Vanity section is all about personal opinions...

You really think the only case Gricar ever had was the 1998 accusation? He ran away from something but it certainly wasn't Penn State........

31 posted on 11/17/2011 12:37:18 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (ue)
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To: Palladin

He still had a key to his old office?!? Bucknell should be ashamed of themselves!! Anyone who knows about an abuse against a child should be ashamed to be alive. I wonder how many of his coworkers suspected Harclerode’s perverted behavior. I wonder how many suspected Sandusky....

Maybe Gricar will come forward one day.


32 posted on 11/18/2011 6:06:06 AM PST by GottaHabla
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To: GottaHabla

And in today’s news, another pediphile professor at a state university in Northern Pennsylvania:

Child porn charges filed against former MU math instructor

November 18, 2011

By CHERYL R. CLARKE - cclarke@sungazette.com , Williamsport Sun-Gazette

MANSFIELD - One count of distributing child pornography, a federal felony, was filed against Mansfield University assistant professor Daniel W. McKee, 39, Nov. 9, following a year long state police and FBI investigation targeting individuals trading child pornography.

According to a public information report released by state police Sept. 24, 2010, McKee’s residence at 84 7th St., Mansfield, was searched by police following an investigation into a child pornography sharing ring between June 26 and Sept. 22, 2010.

During the investigation, according to the release, picture files showing images of child pornography were downloaded.

A follow-up investigation traced the download to McKee’s residence.

Seized items including numerous computers and other digital media, showed several more files containing child pornography, police said.

McKee intends to plead guilty to the charge, which means he knowingly distributed sexually explicit images of a minor or minors, said Assistant United States Attorney Wayne P. Samuelson, who is prosecuting the case.

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One more indication that there is a pedophile ring among the university people in PA.


33 posted on 11/18/2011 2:04:14 PM PST by Palladin (Where is Ray Gricar?)
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