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83 victims, family members seek $750M for ‘preventable’ Fort Hood tragedy
Washington Post ^ | Thursday November 10, 2011 | Associated Press

Posted on 11/11/2011 6:02:46 AM PST by jpl

WASHINGTON — Eighty-three victims and family members in the worst-ever mass shooting at a U.S. military installation are seeking $750 million in compensation from the Army, alleging that willful negligence enabled psychiatrist Maj. Nidal Hasan to carry out a terrorist attack at Fort Hood, Texas.

The administrative claims filed last week said the government had clear warnings that Hasan, who is scheduled to go on trial in March, posed a grave danger to the lives of soldiers and civilians.

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By the way, last Saturday was the two year anniversary of the Fort Hood Massacre, and the families of the victims are still being denied justice as the trial for the piece of garbage Hasan hasn't even started yet, even though it is a slam-dunk case.

I wonder if this could be part of the reason why Obama is stonewalling: because he knew these lawsuits would be coming.

1 posted on 11/11/2011 6:02:48 AM PST by jpl
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To: jpl
Obama and Hasan knew each other pre-inauguration.
"Army Major (Hasan) Played Role in Presidential (Obama) Transition"
2 posted on 11/11/2011 6:05:30 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: jpl
A pardon of fellow mooseslime Hasan will be the Residents last official act.
3 posted on 11/11/2011 6:06:48 AM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: jpl

They are are not law suits yet. The article says “administrative claims.” I used to be Army JAG. I worked in claims one tour. When something happens against a military service like this, even say a military vehicle runs into your car and damages it, the claims section is the insurance company for the Army. Under law you have to file a CLAIM against the Army. The Army then has like, if I remember correctly, 6 months to either approve, deny, or just simply let that date pass. Then you can approach a federal court or whatever and file a law suit. But first, all have to file these administrative claims and allow those time frames to run.


4 posted on 11/11/2011 6:08:12 AM PST by RetiredArmy (In the Twinkling of an eye!!!)
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To: jpl

Good luck to the families of the victims in the case, time for some accountability.


5 posted on 11/11/2011 6:09:35 AM PST by BilLies (ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , etc., hates your Traditional American guts!)
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To: jpl
The administrative claims filed last week said the government had clear warnings that Hasan, who is scheduled to go on trial in March, posed a grave danger to the lives of soldiers and civilians.

Damn straight they did. And I hope the families bankrupt every government agency because of it!

6 posted on 11/11/2011 6:09:51 AM PST by MamaTexan (If it works in theory but not in practice, then it's not a theory...... but a failure)
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To: RetiredArmy

It has been over 25 years since I worked in claims. That 6 months could be greater period of time, like a year or more. Been a long time and the mind grows fuzzy on those kinds of details when it does not need to remember them any more.


7 posted on 11/11/2011 6:10:16 AM PST by RetiredArmy (In the Twinkling of an eye!!!)
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To: RetiredArmy
Thanks for the correction.

It truly makes my blood boil that the government is stonewalling this case. There is absolutely no good reason why justice needs to take years with this guy.

8 posted on 11/11/2011 6:10:39 AM PST by jpl (What do the White House and Zuccotti Park have in common? They're both full of B.O.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Thanks for that information.


9 posted on 11/11/2011 6:11:03 AM PST by 56newblog (Registered Islamophobe)
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To: jpl
This is one lawsuit that I can support.

Political correctness has gone on long enough and too much damage has been done to society to allow it to continue.

Maybe this action will start knocking out the official support for PC...

...nothing except heartache, misery, chaos and loss of wealth has resulted from not wanting to hurt Hasan's wittle feelings....

10 posted on 11/11/2011 6:11:05 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Elections have consequences....)
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To: RetiredArmy
But first, all have to file these administrative claims and allow those time frames to run.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Army (or the White House) decides to pay compensation under these administrative claims to avoid any full presentation of evidence in open court proceedings.

This atrocity has been covered up and smoothed over so far and I doubt they'd want any public airing of the facts at this point.

11 posted on 11/11/2011 6:12:27 AM PST by Will88
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To: B.O. Plenty

If you want money you have to go the source, Iran and Saudi Arabia!


12 posted on 11/11/2011 6:14:03 AM PST by WellyP (REAL)
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To: jpl

“Thanks for the correction.

It truly makes my blood boil that the government is stonewalling this case. There is absolutely no good reason why justice needs to take years with this guy. “

Whatever happened to the dirtbag that rolled the grenade back in Kuwait at the start of the Iraq war?


13 posted on 11/11/2011 6:16:56 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: jpl

That is basically what this time frame is for. To give the Army time to investigate the claim and then enter into a “settlement period” with you to try to resolve the claim short of a law suit. If not, then you can sue.


14 posted on 11/11/2011 6:17:20 AM PST by RetiredArmy (In the Twinkling of an eye!!!)
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To: jpl
If there were such a thing as justice in America—Obama would pay the $750,000,000.00 out of his $1,000,000,000.00 campaign war war chest cause it was HIS Islamophilia and HIS gangs’ political correctness that pulled the triggers.
15 posted on 11/11/2011 6:20:41 AM PST by Happy Rain ( "Many of the most useful idiots of the Left are on the Right.")
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To: jpl

P C should cost the Army millions. It cost thirteen soldiers their lives, and wounded 27 others, all because those in charge refused to throw “A Soldier of Allah” out of our military.


16 posted on 11/11/2011 6:26:04 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: jpl
“I wonder if this could be part of the reason why Obama is stonewalling: because he knew these lawsuits would be coming.”

Timing is everything.

When they finally get around to a trial, “Lone Wolf Terrorist” will do exactly the same thing all over the US.

They need to mix these attacks in with the OWS violence.

Am I joking or not?

You decide.

17 posted on 11/11/2011 6:27:22 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: jpl
last Saturday was the two year anniversary of the Fort Hood Massacre, and the families of the victims are still being denied justice

The USS Cole was attacked in Oct 2000 and the terrorists are just now coming to trial. That's an eleven year wait!

How can anyone possibly fear US justice?

18 posted on 11/11/2011 6:33:53 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: jpl
‘preventable’

That is quite an understatement.

19 posted on 11/11/2011 6:34:56 AM PST by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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Ummm....who will actually pay if they win? That would be the taxpayers, wouldn’t it? The only way to stop this kind of stuff from happening again is to hold the people responsible for this liable. And I’m not talking about the military supervisors. They’re cowards, but I can see why they’re cowards. The people responsible for these deaths are in the media. What would have happened if the military had run Hasan out? The media would have gone ballistic. The families should be compensated, but the money should come from the bloody hands of the new york times and the washington post and newsweek and nbc...


20 posted on 11/11/2011 6:41:38 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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But....but.....but....you gotta understand........tolerance, diversity, political correctness, sensitivity, and a host of other words are only that.....words. You can’t sue them.

Religious freedoms are guaranteed by our Constitution and religions that espouse killing infidels are protected.

Right? No you say? How can this be?

So much with the sarcastic writing, our legal system is broken beyond repair and the fear of losing your job, position or being sued for even speaking your mind, is the total destruction of the 1st Amendment. We have no rights under the Constitution simply because it is used a toilet paper by the Democrats, communists, Marxists, Socialists and all “progressives.”

The GOP has allowed and assisted in the complete destruction of our freedoms and way of life. The are just a guilty as the other classes of traitors listed above.


21 posted on 11/11/2011 7:02:14 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: MamaTexan
Your ire should be reserved for THE WASHINGTON POST. They had sent a small army of reporters and reporter-ettes over to Walter Reed Hospital to interview patients, visitors and staff about conditions in the facilities used to support outpatient services ~ mostly psychiatric services.

They interviewed everybody including a doctor who thought some of the patients should be tried for crimes committed overseas.

That was Dr. (then Captain) Hassan!

He was a whack job even at that time. The Washington Post reporters and reporter-ettes, and their editors and managers, could have tipped off the Department of Army about the problem with that guy BUT THEY DID NOT!

Instead, they went after two base commanders in a row and got them fired.

Not a word about the crazy old psychiatrist in the outpatient ward who thought his patients should be put on trial!

There's still no word from the post on the connection between the Fort Hood murders and the Washington Post, but the connection exists, it's strong, it's powerful, and the Obot regime will do nothing about it.

Private suits could. The Post still has insurance and assets. Time to fleece the Left!

22 posted on 11/11/2011 7:08:31 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: jpl

“It truly makes my blood boil that the government is stonewalling this case. There is absolutely no good reason why justice needs to take years with this guy.”

Au contraire! To the Army chain of command clear up to the then-chief of staff there is plenty of good reason to stonewall the Fort Hood Massacre case. Hasan’s lawyer the JAG renegade Galligan couldn’t have delayed this case coming to trial all by his lonesome. The entire organizational culture of PC is on trial and the generals know it. There was criminal negligence in the coddling of this “soldier of allah” complete with documentation and name-rank-serial numbers. Hasan’s counsel whoever it now is will open up a huge can of worms on the Army’s established PC view of Islam.

I’m surprised it took this long for the family members to go the civil suit route. Maybe they trusted the JAG claims process as noted above. In any case, the chain can’t stop the tort process though they can sandbag requests for documents which if released will have been “heavily redacted”.

At least there was that brave female cop who though wounded managed to bring down Hasan and leave him paralyzed without entry to muzzie paradise. He rots in a cell somewhere, his jihadi dreams dashed, and a small measure of justice is exacted every single day this evil creep draws breath.

Meanwhile, the wheels of justice are slowed by the generals standing on the brake pedal with both feet.


23 posted on 11/11/2011 7:17:39 AM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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Give it to them. Take it out of the pay of those tolerant_til_blind_to_jihad within the gov.


24 posted on 11/11/2011 7:32:33 AM PST by veracious
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To: veracious

83 people are looking for compensation?


25 posted on 11/11/2011 7:40:22 AM PST by neverbluffer
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To: elcid1970

Very well articulated, thank you.


26 posted on 11/11/2011 8:07:08 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: veracious

I have to disagree. No payout. The crime occurred because of the PC mentality in the military. Who enabled that to occur? The administration. The military doesn’t lose money—we, as the taxpayers, will pay for the errant PC policies. So now we have idiot PC’s in charge, causing deaths that we have to pay for. No, no payouts. Make the situations created by these PC fools so intolerable and inequitable that change must come, not a simple payout.


27 posted on 11/11/2011 8:45:51 AM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: blueunicorn6

Ummm....who will actually pay if they win? That would be the taxpayers, wouldn’t it?


The voters pay, and should hold elected officials responsible, and vote them out of office. Of course, personal liability would be great, but whoever knew about Hasan’s communications with hostiles overseas and let it slide can’t afford to compensate the victims.


28 posted on 11/11/2011 8:53:09 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: jpl

CAIR will step in and stop the lawsuit as “Islamophobia.”


29 posted on 11/11/2011 9:32:58 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The enemy of my enemy is my candidate.<sup>®</sup>)
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To: B.O. Plenty
This is one lawsuit that I can support.

Political correctness has gone on long enough and too much damage has been done to society to allow it to continue.

Maybe this action will start knocking out the official support for PC...


I can support this as well, except the taxpayers will be footing the bill and the people who left Hasan in the Army will probably keep their jobs.
30 posted on 11/11/2011 2:51:38 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: blueunicorn6
“Ummm....who will actually pay [the $750 million] if they win? That would be the taxpayers, wouldn’t it?”

It will be paid by America's most productive citizens.

Self-employed white males who vote Republican.

My god, we have to be dumbest political party in the history of the whole freaking universe!

31 posted on 11/12/2011 1:02:27 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

They don’t call us the Stupid Party for nothing.


32 posted on 11/12/2011 7:17:41 AM PST by jpl (What do the White House and Zuccotti Park have in common? They're both full of B.O.)
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