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Ron Paul Ignores Iran's Treachery (GOP presidential candidate demonstrates appalling ignorance)
American Thinker ^ | 11/11/2011 | Reza Kahlili

Posted on 11/11/2011 6:32:01 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul is demonstrating an appalling ignorance on the Iranian nuclear issue and the threat it poses to world security. In fact, several times during the recent GOP debates he blamed the animosity against the U.S. in the Middle East on America's foreign policy.

Paul recently argued on "Fox News Sunday" that sanctions should be removed altogether to get Iran to act differently and that the U.S. response to Iran's nuclear pursuit was an "overreaction." He added that Iran does not pose a threat to either the U.S. or the region. The congressman from Texas insists that a better art of persuasion would be to offer friendship, the way the U.S. approached the Soviets and Chinese in the 1970s and 1980s.

So Paul not only has shown that he has no understanding of the murderous radicals who rule Iran but has a dangerous lapse of memory. President Obama at first tried to do exactly what Paul argues now should be done -- and failed miserably.

When Obama took office in 2009, he immediately changed the U.S. approach toward Iran, believing that the mullahs would only change behavior if a kinder, gentler approach were implemented. His appeasement of the mullahs started when he sent his video message on the occasion of the Iranian New Year in 2009, stating his desire for friendship with the Iranian leaders. That was followed by a letter to the Iranian supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, in which he reiterated that America did not intend to interfere in Iran's internal matters and that it respected the sovereignty of the Islamic state and that he desired better relations between the two countries.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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1 posted on 11/11/2011 6:32:02 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

He does more than ignore. As an official representative of the US Government, he has gone to Iran’s state media on several occasions knocking the US and her allies. It seems interventionism is fine if it is against us or our allies.


2 posted on 11/11/2011 6:37:01 AM PST by mnehring
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey it’s hard to see danger with fake eyebrows clouding your vision.


3 posted on 11/11/2011 6:38:48 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: SeekAndFind

He doesn’t seem to understand that Iran doesn’t want a nuke to use as a threat. Iran wants a nuke to use.


4 posted on 11/11/2011 6:50:00 AM PST by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I think Paul goes too far in ignoring the wild qualities of the Iranian regime. But backward Iran is no threat to the USA. If it really was a threat we would have never been so adamant in removing Saddam Hussein, the natural counterweight and obstacle to Iran.
5 posted on 11/11/2011 7:03:29 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Iran is no threat to the USA

Just like nazi germany. after all it was "only" Jews they want to kill.
6 posted on 11/11/2011 7:07:44 AM PST by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: cripplecreek
Unlike Iran, Nazi Germany was a modern, populous nation with the potential for continental hegemony. Such a hegemony over wealthy, industialized Europe was a threat to the USA. And we need not worry about Israel for Israel has the means of massive retaliation in response to any foolishness by Iran.
7 posted on 11/11/2011 7:26:03 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Iran isn’t exactly in the dark ages.


8 posted on 11/11/2011 7:28:28 AM PST by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: cripplecreek
While iran is certainly more developed than many Third World nations, they are way behind the US and directly relevant to the situation, they are way behind Israel.
9 posted on 11/11/2011 7:32:47 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Iran without a nuke is not a threat.
Iran with a nuke is a threat.

And, no, a nation headed by a group of religious extremists who believe their mission is to bring about the end of the world cannot be deterred by threats of retaliation.


10 posted on 11/11/2011 7:39:56 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
If it really was a threat we would have never been so adamant in removing Saddam Hussein, the natural counterweight and obstacle to Iran.

Or, if you are an arrogant, delusional, neo-conservative, you remove Saddam and attempt to remodel Iraq as a Western liberal democracy in order to counterweight Iran.

The Ottoman Empire, and many others, have fallen to backward hordes. All it takes is for the horde to have reasonably equivalent force to make it possible. Then a few feckless politicians and generals on our side make it probable.

11 posted on 11/11/2011 7:48:35 AM PST by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Ron Paul 1488
The Final Solution for America

The two eights of the number 1488 stand for the eigth letter of the alphabet: H. And the two of them together form H H or Heil Hitler.

The fourteen part of the number 1488 stands for those fourteen words that every white supremacist knows: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children. (hat tip Bill Levinson)

12 posted on 11/11/2011 8:15:28 AM PST by Stepan12
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To: DugwayDuke
a nation headed by a group of religious extremists who believe their mission is to bring about the end of the world

I don't know why so many have trouble grasping just how insane these twelvers really are. They believe they can bring the Mahdi by washing the world in blood. Even the Ayatolla Khomeini worked to keep them out of power because he believed they were too extreme.

They want to strap a bomb belt around the whole planet.
13 posted on 11/11/2011 8:16:46 AM PST by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s a quote circulating around the internet that says it all about Ron Paul’s foreign policy “expertise”:

You’re all familiar with the broken clock that is right twice a day. Ron Paul is like a strange broken clock that is right 23 hours a day. Then you get to some foreign policy midnight, and instead of chiming, it barks and smears itself with poo.”


15 posted on 11/11/2011 9:15:53 AM PST by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: cripplecreek
Best estimates are that they already have enough material for 4 nuclear devices right now.

I would be very surprised if they are not already assembled into warheads.

The only thing holding them off is that they will probably want to have enough to actually make a huge impact, and pre-position their attacking entities for the deployments in the West.

When all their ducks are in a row...then they pull the trigger.

16 posted on 11/11/2011 10:00:32 AM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Paul Ross
Iran may be closer than we think...

This came across the wires this morning. Low levels of Iodine 131 were found in the Czech Republic and other areas of Europe. Iodine 131 is a product of plutonium fission and the report says it the iodine 131 is not from Fukushima.

Low Levels of Iodine Detected in Europe

17 posted on 11/11/2011 11:48:14 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

The sad thing is, I’ve met a fair number of Iranian immigrants (most US citizens). IME, they tend to be only nominally Muslim, very Westernized, and fond of America. They’re probably the most “normal” of anyone from the Muslim Middle East (I emphasise Muslim as Christian Lebanese and of course Israelis wouldn’t fall in the same category) and culturally seem to fit in the US rather well.

Their government is crazy, and there are just enough wackos in the country to keep the Islamists in power, but in raw numbers, there are still a LOT of Iranian people who I’d much rather have over for dinner than, say, the average Saudi.


18 posted on 11/11/2011 12:22:51 PM PST by RockinRight (One year from now, we have an opportunity to take our nation back.)
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To: Stepan12

Ron Paul is a loon, but unless I’m missing something, he’s not an actual white supremacist is he?


19 posted on 11/11/2011 12:24:21 PM PST by RockinRight (One year from now, we have an opportunity to take our nation back.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Perhaps he just has the fear that attacking Iran might lead to WWIII. Which it could.

That said, I personally don't care for his foreign policy.

20 posted on 11/11/2011 12:44:08 PM PST by wolfcreek (Perry to Obama: Adios, MOFO!)
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To: cripplecreek
Just like nazi germany. after all it was "only" Jews they want to kill.

The surrender monkey is the Nevile Chamberlain of the 21st century. Cut and run thinks that if we appease our enemies enough they will leave us alone. It did not work in the 20th century, and it will not work now.
21 posted on 11/11/2011 12:59:05 PM PST by John D
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To: SeekAndFind

Ron Paul is nuts


22 posted on 11/11/2011 1:05:14 PM PST by therightliveswithus
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm not sure what the real difference is between:

Ron Paul, who says we should do nothing about Iran's nuke program, and as President would do nothing:

and George W. Bush, who talked and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked and talked about the Iranian threat for eight years, and did nothing.

23 posted on 11/11/2011 1:17:05 PM PST by Notary Sojac (I wish someone would tell me what "ditty wah ditty" means.)
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To: therightliveswithus
Ron Paul is nuts

That would explain why he left the medical practice for a career in congress. However, there is a lot more money to be made in congress, so maybe he's crazy like a fox.
24 posted on 11/11/2011 1:21:59 PM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: Stepan12
Ron Paul 1488 The Final Solution for America The two eights of the number 1488 stand for the eigth letter of the alphabet: H. And the two of them together form H H or Heil Hitler. The fourteen part of the number 1488 stands for those fourteen words that every white supremacist knows: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children. (hat tip Bill Levinson)

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

25 posted on 11/11/2011 2:15:31 PM PST by jmc813
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To: MediaMole

This may be as alarming as implied, but I have tapped my own nuclear information resources to assess possibilities here.


26 posted on 11/11/2011 2:53:28 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks SeekAndFind.


27 posted on 11/11/2011 2:59:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SeekAndFind; firebrand; SunkenCiv; Clintonfatigued; Just A Nobody; fieldmarshaldj; ...
Ron Paul: great on domestic policy, awful on foreign policy. That may sound very simple, but it's pretty darn accurate.
28 posted on 11/11/2011 3:20:56 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: SeekAndFind
I would suggest that you all read Big Oil & Their Bankers In The Persian Gulf: Four Horsemen, Eight Families & Their Global Intelligence, Narcotics & Terror Network Dean Henderson. This book will open your eyes of have big oil has dominated our foreign policy for the last 60 years.
30 posted on 11/11/2011 4:52:50 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

An Iran without nuclear weapons is a pain. An Iran with nukes is a threat.


31 posted on 11/11/2011 7:35:34 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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32 posted on 11/11/2011 7:59:01 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
The fact that they have orbited satellites not with standing of course...
33 posted on 11/12/2011 5:37:14 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: cripplecreek

“I don’t know why so many have trouble grasping just how insane these twelvers really are.”

Yes, but such a failure can be extraordinarily convenient if you want to believe that you can avoid confronting those twelvers. If your position is that Iran can be ‘deterred’, then admitting that they are religious extremists who believe their mission is to wash the world in blood and usher in the rule of the 12th Iman is rather inconvenient.


34 posted on 11/13/2011 4:55:28 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: justiceseeker93

It’s a shame. If only he was passible instead of Kucinichian.


35 posted on 11/13/2011 5:21:45 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Stepan12
"The two eights of the number.."

Your post is just bizarre.

The "Truthers" hold not particular advantage over your ability to invent.

36 posted on 11/13/2011 7:08:46 AM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: RockinRight
Despite their subjugation by Islam the Iranians have resisted arabization. They are Persians proud of their ancient heritage and have only well-deserved contempt for the sand rat ragheads. That they have been taken over and ruled by these arab-inspired primitive religious savages is a shame.

Nevertheless they are under the control of a police state pure and simple, a state which can and might do anything conceivable. Paul's blindness to this simple reality is inexplicable.

37 posted on 11/13/2011 8:14:07 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Notary Sojac
The difference is that Bush is not running anymore. Otherwise your point is right on.
38 posted on 11/13/2011 8:16:13 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Colonel Kangaroo; All
This is the same type of attitude we had before WWII. We never thought that Japan will never hit us. Well they did.

Never never underestimate the bad guys......
39 posted on 11/13/2011 9:20:55 AM PST by KevinDavis (Birthers are ignorant about the Constitution.)
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