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To: Moonman62; Johnny B.

Kevmo has cited some of these people as scientifically validating the ecat. We now know they have a financial interest.
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. I see that Stirling Alan, the man who reported that Rossi had a deal with National Instruments, has apparently set up Rossi’s web site.

Not only is he reporting on Rossi, but he’s a business partner as well.
reading the history of it, just on this site, it’s clear
it’s a scam, by a cereal box credential scammer, who’s learned to make a better scam.
and i’m looking forward to the world finding out.
...but i doubt Kevmo will still be around...
...i admit i believed it, until i read months ago about the “self-destruct device” that Rossi was “forced” to put inside...

37 posted on 11/11/2011 6:24:50 PM PST by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Elendur
it’s clear it’s a scam

There is no reason to call it a scam or a true invention. The thing should speak for itself. There were indeed a few questionable experiments, and now it looks like a conflict of interest too, but in the end it doesn't matter. If Rossi is selling the devices, let him sell and then we'll listen to opinions of his customers.

But the real problem here is that we don't know how the thing works (or even why.) There is no solid scientific basis for anything that happens. As I said earlier, the device may be emitting unknown death rays for all we know, or it may explode like a nuke after exactly 12,345 hours of operation. The science is supposed to tell us that the device works because it has to work, and that it won't explode because of $some_other_good_reason. Right now we are in position of a caveman who found a way to make fire but has no idea what the fire is.

This is exactly how it didn't happen with fission reactors. Nobody demonstrated fission to citizens, so that citizens would pool their money and build nuclear power stations. Scientists said that the fission will work, and if anyone doesn't believe they can go to a certain place in Nevada and see for themselves. (If they still disbelieve they are free to do so at their own peril.) The whole thing was so well understood that no doubt remained, other than how to build it safe. Similarly we don't question light bulbs, radio, airplanes - because we (as a society) understand them pretty well. We will have to get to the same level of understanding about LENR before we will stop seeing it as a trick and start seeing it as a technology.

44 posted on 11/11/2011 6:46:06 PM PST by Greysard
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