Skip to comments.To Save Our Economy, Ditch Taiwan (NYT op-ed)
Posted on 11/11/2011 7:48:23 PM PST by reaganaut1
WITH a single bold act, President Obama could correct the countrys course, help assure his re-election, and preserve our childrens future.
He needs to redefine Americas mindset about national security away from the old defense mentality that American power derives predominantly from our military might, rather than from the strength, agility and competitiveness of our economy. He should make it clear that today American jobs and wealth matter more than military prowess.
As Adm. Mike Mullen, then chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, declared last year, The most significant threat to our national security is our debt.
There are dozens of initiatives President Obama could undertake to strengthen our economic security. Here is one: He should enter into closed-door negotiations with Chinese leaders to write off the $1.14 trillion of American debt currently held by China in exchange for a deal to end American military assistance and arms sales to Taiwan and terminate the current United States-Taiwan defense arrangement by 2015.
This would be a most precious prize to the cautious men in Beijing, one they would give dearly to achieve. After all, our relationship with Taiwan, as revised in 1979, is a vestige of the cold war.
Today, America has little strategic interest in Taiwan, which is gradually integrating with China economically by investing in and forming joint ventures with mainland Chinese firms. The islands absorption into mainland China is inevitable.
But the status quo is dangerous; if Taiwanese nationalist politicians decided to declare independence or if Beijings hawks tired of waiting for integration and moved to take Taiwan by force, America could suddenly be drawn into a multitrillion-dollar war.
There will be China hawks who denounce any deal on Taiwan as American capitulation, but their fear of a Red China menacing Asia is anachronistic.
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Let’s sacrifice millions of people in a deal with the evil empire. Wow.
Liberals want us to sell out Taiwan so the ChiComs will forgive our debt. They’re bottom feeding scum.
dunham to unionize the military...
This proposal had to have come from an Ivy Leaguer, and it did.
This idiot has about as much cred as the Pulitzer winning Walter Durante who told us the Soviets never imprisoned anybody for political crimes. And the slugs and invertebrates of Manhattan believed him.
Oh well, life in the stagnant coastal backwater of NYawk.
The author’s friends should be nervous since the author is likely to screw his friends to save his own hide.
I like my proposal much better: Send China an invoice for $1 trillion plus for three decades of patent violations, copyright violations, reverse engineering, product counterfeiting, product copying, industrial and military espionage, and other similar cheating and stealing.
Start calling this corrupt, criminal nation what it is.
Translation: We can enhance our economic well-being by simply selling out our core principles.
For those who have very little concept of honor (and certainly no thought that the US might be imbued with any such thing), such a sellout would probably not be especially difficult...
“Take my little girl.” Sophie
The New York Times is truly ignoble, rapacious and, well, a pickled version of a newspaper.
Am not a fan of our defense pact with Taiwan but damn! This is one of the ugliest proposals that have been published regarding the debt crisis.
This man is a fool.
What rock did this guy crawl out from under.
Obama is already making himself famous as a betrayer of allies. Why the hell would anyone want to be our ally with a traitor like that in the White House? By the time he is through, we won’t have a friend left anywhere in the world, nor a military to defend ourselves with.
It is hard to see how this can be anything but deliberate. And of course the America-hating NY Times wants to encourage it.
To save our economy, ditch SOCIALISM.
That would include public schools, student loans by the government, Fannie and Freddie, SS and all those departments that are NOT enumerated in the Constitution, INCLUDING the FED.
That would fix a lot of this economy.
At the rate we are borrowing money and spending it, China can get her way by using debt forgiveness as a weapon. Read some of the commentary from Chinese think tanks (which mirrors official viewpoints). They even did a White Paper (that was translated into English by the CIA) shortly after the Iraq War, which China projected starting in 2013 US deficit spending will impact US ability to finance military power. They did not even factor the Wall Street meltdown in its calculations. China is the first to observe the unsustainable deficit spending of the American people since the late 1990’s. Why do you think they opted for a huge national surplus? Rainy day fund?? Sort of, but more like using the pile of money to achieve strategic goals.
Read how Scotland became part of Britain after her financial fiasco in trying to create a passage from Caribbean to Pacific via Panama. Over 2/3 of Scotland’s wealth was invested in the venture which failed. Britain simply stepped in to cover the losses provided Scotland becomes part of Britain or else face the consequences of a national financial collapse. If China can forgive 1.1 trillion in debt or face national financial meltdown, giving up Taiwan may be the US only choice.
Adm. Mike Mullen has since retired.
Adm. Mike Mullen has since retired.
Can’t we just ditch NYC instead?
I’m amazed this buffoon didn’t start with Israel and then do Taiwan
I’m hoping some Tawainese mobsters pay the author a visit.
I’ve got a better plan. Why don’t we tell the Chinese government that if they don’t write down our debt we’ll establish branches of Harvard University, the Democratic Party, SEIU and the New York Times in China. Then they can suffer from the same idiotic ideas that poison our political thinking. We can throw in Paul Krugman to close the deal.
Someone needs to tell this idiot to put the bong down for an hour or two.
China which has aborted tens of millions of girl babies and has a male-heavy populace it can neither feed nor employ.
China which murdered 2,000 peaceful democracy advocates in Tiananmen Square June 4, 1989.
China which now lays claim to the sea for hundreds of miles daring any neighbor or nation to transit let alone seek its resources.
China which sends tens of thousands of tons of precursors to Mexican superlabs to become the river of Mexican methedrine flowing into CONUS.
The New York Times which fought the Vietnam War for the Communists now does their propaganda work for free.
China which has stolen so much--(charge them for the warhead data Wen Ho Lee gave them, for the missile know-how Armstrong and Schwartz gave them)--
--now says through the fairies at the old gray drag queen,
"Be Judas; it's okay--then all this unpleasantness will go away"
Taiwan does not belong to China. Only thirteen years in three millenia.
It is mostly indigenous, not Chinese.
It is democratic and an ally.
The New York Times is a nest traitors. Confiscate its presses and imprison its staff as enemy combatants.
Carter betrayed Taiwan once--now is China's best shot at Taiwan, before Down-Low Gaga is defeated.
Better hurry with that wag op, Barry--
They are consistent Marxists.
Can America keep Taiwan safe from China forever?
If so, fine.
If not, then perhaps the best thing is to allow integration.
The China today is not the China 20 years ago.
Has Hong Kong suffered from being re-integration?
Yet another blast from the past. If Ayers and Davis meant anything to O, abandoning Taiwan is already on O’s to do list.
how about we give it another 20 years, then see? Just in case Taiwan is a slightly different matter to the ChiComs. And is Mommy’s Little Man really the guy to broker a deal like this?
Wonder how the NYT would respond to a proposal to revive our economy by invading Cuba and seizing the island for ourselves?
Don’t let Obama being the one to lead any discussions on integration.
Is English your native language?
Isn’t selling honor for money considered prostitution.
0bozo might be immoral enough to take a proposal like this seriously but the Chinese themselves would never go for it. Their economic fortunes are more intricately tied to the U.S. than simply possessing our treasury notes. The Taiwan situation is undoubtedly a little more complicated than this simplistic tradeoff idea makes it sound too.
This is a clear example of The NYT getting it’s Marching orders from PEKING.
Yes, but I’m working through my cellphone, as opposed to my computer.
I’m going to make a mess of things once in a while. :)
On behalf of my good friends from Taiwan, I hereby turn my back on the NYT and fart in its general direction.
Thanks for the ping!
“But the status quo is dangerous; if Taiwanese nationalist politicians decided to declare independence or if Beijings hawks tired of waiting for integration and moved to take Taiwan by force, America could suddenly be drawn into a multitrillion-dollar war.”
If “RED” China chooses such a bellecose action then war with them is called for, and we should execute in aggressively. America would NO honour if we allowed China to conquer Taiwan.
China wants to conquer this country and supplant us on the world stage. They will do it both economically and militarily. We cannot afford to be lax on either front. We are already in serious problems in regards to our debt to China...this needs to be remedied, but we must maintain a strong an viable military because IF we remedy the economic, they will sooner use the military option.
It is in the United States short and long term interests to help maintain a free Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea. Should those countries help bear the cost....of course. However, we should NEVER abandon them. To do so is to invite Chinese agression.
I thought that what happened to Czechoslovakia at Munich was the high point of national perfidy, I could be wrong. That the Times would publish this BS speaks volumes.
Japan would immediately develop its own atomic bomb.
Let’s see, 1.14T of debt forgiveness would just about balance this year’s budget but would do nothing to reduce the 14T+ total Federal debt....sell out an ally in order to kick the debt can down the road for a little while longer. What a lying piece of used dog food. This will do nothing to cure our economic woes as it does not address the fundamental problem of our spending more than we take in. It does nothing to enhance our security as it emboldens China in that we can be bought...no ally is safe if the price is right.
Taiwan has been playing us for fools while building up the Chinese economy -- they are one of the largest investors on the mainland.
They are not our allies.
We should stick to our real friends -- Japan, South Korea, Australia -- the Taiwanese sealed their own faith.
“The author is a Marine, according to the byline.”
That $1.14 trillion of American debt represents about 10 months of deficit spending at current rates. That seems like a pretty cheap price to sell out a friend.
To come to think of it, wasn’t John Murtha a Marine?