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Mitt Romney Will Win Iowa Caucus, Predicts GOP Insider
The Daily Beast ^ | 11/11/2011 | John Batchelor

Posted on 11/12/2011 3:40:50 PM PST by TBBT

Mitt Romney doesn’t generate enthusiasm from the conservative base, according to one GOP insider, but he’ll still take the upcoming Iowa caucus. The big winner, though, is Fox News.

“It’s gonna be Romney, and the party is miserable,” observed a Republican agent just back from the presidential contest in Iowa. “One day Bachmann, the next day Perry, then another day Cain, now Newt. The flavor of the day will pass. Why do many Fox contributors become candidates? It gets you in the debates and polls. But it doesn’t stick. Iowa is about paying an organization to show up. They are used to it. It’s an entitlement to Iowa. First in the nation means mercenaries, buying up the talent, then bringing the people you paid for to the caucus.”

With about seven weeks to go to the January 3 caucus in Iowa, I enjoyed my conversation with a shrewdly cynical professional who can explain what’s the matter with the Iowa primary, why we see such helter-skelter in the polling that swings from challenger to challenger while the Old Reliable Romney never goes down or up, just hangs onto his unshakeable twenty-something plateau.

“You gotta have money to get the people out,” continued my informant. “It’s a muscle caucus, not a message place. They are used to it. You need money to hire the guys who are well connected to make sure the right people get to the caucus night. It’s not a vote; it’s a paid event. Romney, having waited for the other candidates to blow each other or themselves up, he can buy himself a victory gradually and steadily.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: rinos4romney; romneycare; romneyiowa; tokyorove
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Really?

Is that how Huckabee did it? Huckabee bought Iowa?

I thought Romney outspent Huckabee by millions and still lost.

Smacks of clueless left-wing establishment types trying to foster the notion that Romney is a fate de compli, so you rubes should just give up. You can tell who they want to win...

1 posted on 11/12/2011 3:40:51 PM PST by TBBT
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2 posted on 11/12/2011 3:42:37 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm not a Republican and I'm not a Democrat. I'm an American. SelfGovernment.US)
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To: TBBT

Why can’t these worthless articles say it is KARL ROVE..

What a bunch of lying D-heads, they would lie to JC right to his face,.


3 posted on 11/12/2011 3:43:38 PM PST by Fred (no job no house no gas no food no problem Obama 2012)
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To: TBBT
John Batchelor has been pimping Mitt
for weeks on his radio show.

4 posted on 11/12/2011 3:44:36 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: TBBT

It’s nice of them to tell us what they are going to do to us.


5 posted on 11/12/2011 3:47:09 PM PST by DManA
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Contrary to what this so called ‘insider’ thinks Romney is in no way a shoe in in Iowa. Iowans are very unhappy that he did not show up for the straw poll.


6 posted on 11/12/2011 3:47:32 PM PST by GingerC
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To: TBBT

My money is on the OUTSIDER, I’m fed up with all these so called insiders, both DemoRAT and RINO. That’s how we got into this mess and they ain’t getting us out. And I’m pretty sure I’m not alone.

I’m as mad as Hell and I’m not going to take this insider guidance anymore.

FUBO


7 posted on 11/12/2011 3:48:01 PM PST by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: TBBT

I believe, an Iowegian should correct me, that this is just a straw poll and the party is not bound by it. Correct?


8 posted on 11/12/2011 3:48:39 PM PST by DManA
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To: TBBT

Cain is going to win Iowa at which point a ton of the other conservatives will drop raising his poll numbers by 10 to 15 points, and he will sweep most of the rest of the states except New Hampshire.


9 posted on 11/12/2011 3:51:33 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Cain 2012!)
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To: TBBT
Yeah, GOP "insiders" are the fossils of tomorrow. The Tea Party election of 2010 taught them nothing.
10 posted on 11/12/2011 3:52:18 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: GingerC
I think the RINOs are chatting this up
to try and make it happen.

I hope and pray they are wrong.


11 posted on 11/12/2011 3:52:35 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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Really?!
An "insider" said that?

Oh. Well then . . . it's over.

12 posted on 11/12/2011 3:55:08 PM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: GingerC
Romney is in no way a shoe in in Iowa. Iowans are very unhappy that he did not show up for the straw poll.

Frankly I'm so sick of hearing about these idiot bumpkins I really don't care what happens out there in that hundred mile mudflat.

13 posted on 11/12/2011 3:55:26 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: DManA

Yep.


15 posted on 11/12/2011 3:55:40 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm not a Republican and I'm not a Democrat. I'm an American. SelfGovernment.US)
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To: hinckley buzzard
"The Tea Party election of 2010 taught them nothing. "

I think it taught them something . . . and, it scared the Hell out of them.

16 posted on 11/12/2011 3:58:14 PM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: TBBT

Good point.


17 posted on 11/12/2011 3:58:24 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: TBBT
Mitt Romney Will Win Iowa Caucus, Predicts GOP Insider

Karl Rove Will Will Suffer Explosive Gastrointestinal Distress When Romney Loses Iowa Caucus, Predicts GOP Insider

Or whatever other headline the author might like to source to anonymous insiders.

18 posted on 11/12/2011 4:00:54 PM PST by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much. We will much about that be committed.)
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To: TBBT

So what?


19 posted on 11/12/2011 4:04:45 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Without common referents, we are all merely inarticulate refugees from Babel."~Nicknamedbob)
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To: TBBT

The establishment RINOs have been all over TV and print proclaiming its a done deal.

You get Romney.

Some GOP pundit lady was on FOX this week dissing all the others and saying that by the time Iowa gets here, Romney wins.

If the sheeple don’t like it they will have to hold their noses.


20 posted on 11/12/2011 4:05:14 PM PST by dforest
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To: EternalVigilance

So what the “insider” is saying that regardless of the people who go to the Iowa caucus say, Romney will win Iowa’s votes at the convention.


21 posted on 11/12/2011 4:05:35 PM PST by DManA
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To: TBBT
I sure hope so~! because what we really need to fix what those idiot government politcians have been doing for the last 30 years is someone who has been a government idiot politician for the last 30 years.
22 posted on 11/12/2011 4:06:10 PM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: TBBT

23 posted on 11/12/2011 4:06:43 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: DManA

The whole process is pretty much Soviet, so sure, why not?


24 posted on 11/12/2011 4:08:27 PM PST by EternalVigilance (I'm not a Republican and I'm not a Democrat. I'm an American. SelfGovernment.US)
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To: indylindy

In-house TVs at a location in a major corporation location the other day made it sound as though Romney is past the primary stage, actually. I thought that money must talk large everywhere.


25 posted on 11/12/2011 4:08:33 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: TBBT

Give up you Rubes and go home!!!

heehee...


26 posted on 11/12/2011 4:09:37 PM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT

In the conservative chat room, #americapolitics on IRC’s Undernet server, more then one alleged “insider” has stated it is in the bag for Romney because they own enough of the delegates to ensure he wins the nomination. I.e. they are bragging the fix is in.

How can we be sure our votes in the primary count?


27 posted on 11/12/2011 4:13:17 PM PST by Mechanicos (Why does the DOE have a SWAT Team?)
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To: TBBT

Its a caucus

That means Romney can bus in his paid hired thugs to vote for him...

HOWEVER...

The PaulBots will be out in force too...

Oh noez..


28 posted on 11/12/2011 4:13:32 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
John Batchelor has been pimping Mitt for weeks on his radio show.

Never heard of the guy... But based on the article - this is no surprise...
29 posted on 11/12/2011 4:13:53 PM PST by TBBT
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To: jimbo123

Wow! He’s morphing into Michael Moore!


30 posted on 11/12/2011 4:15:34 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: TBBT
" Iowa is about paying an organization to show up. "

Sounds like how ALL Establishment Candidates are brought to the forefront, with the complicit State-Run-Media blowing the trumpets for them, 24/7.

Follow the money, as usual.

31 posted on 11/12/2011 4:15:36 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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>>>Is that how Huckabee did it? Huckabee bought Iowa?

In a sense, yes. He won-over the evangelicals with his God-words - once they heard the ‘right’ God-words, they became ignorant to the rest of Huck’s non-conservative stands. I think the economy might trump the “God-word effect” this time around.


32 posted on 11/12/2011 4:15:53 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: TBBT

The democrat party is deteriorating, the republican party is deteriorating, the Americans are rising. We’ve had enough of all this crap. We’re taking back our government, and they’re resisting. They’re both in their death throes.

What will emerge? The Constitution.


33 posted on 11/12/2011 4:17:24 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Tennessee Nana

>>>That means Romney can bus in his paid hired thugs to vote for him...

Oat-squeeze. The Paulistinians can’t bus in enough to do well either. Paul’s likely support is college kids - who will all be off wherever on Christmas Break and not be back to school when caucuses are held on Jan 3rd.


34 posted on 11/12/2011 4:18:54 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: TBBT

Herman Cain is not a “FoxNews contributor”. Silly piece, and I normally love Batchelor.


35 posted on 11/12/2011 4:22:43 PM PST by montag813
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To: Keith in Iowa

The typical Iowa Ron Paul supporters I have met are closer to 60 years old than to 20 years old. Is my personal experience an outlier?


36 posted on 11/12/2011 4:24:12 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: TBBT

Why do the parties continue to just accept the stupid “Iowa Caucus”? Just end it already. There wouldn’t even be ethanol subidies at all if it were eliminated. It isn’t even a primary. Caucuses also violate the principle of secret ballot. This how Obama’s union thugs were able to bully Hillary voters into submission at every caucus.


37 posted on 11/12/2011 4:25:21 PM PST by montag813
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To: DManA

it is a caucus.

each caucus site holds a preference vote and then each candidate group chooses their allotted delegates. Are you going this year to observe?


38 posted on 11/12/2011 4:28:33 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (I will go back to New Hampshire to campaign.)
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To: jjotto

Yes, Paul does have some 60-appeal... but I don’t believe it’s enough here to make a big difference.


39 posted on 11/12/2011 4:30:01 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: wetgundog

I guess we’re just supposed to shut up and do what we’re told, ya know.....I mean shoot, if this yahoo says $$$$$ buys caucuses which buys candidates, who are we to argue, we peons??


40 posted on 11/12/2011 4:32:42 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: TBBT

The Internationalists will stop at NOTHING to prevent an “outsider” from winning the nomination. They would honestly prefer Obama be re-elected than Herman Cain.


41 posted on 11/12/2011 4:33:32 PM PST by montag813
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To: Keith in Iowa

And I scouted around for 2008 results. Paul did no better in Story and Linn counties than he did elsewhere in Iowa.


42 posted on 11/12/2011 4:37:47 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: TBBT

The source for this article is likely peddling disinformation and psy-ops, likely from one of the lower-teer campaigns... or it does have an essence of Tokyo Rove about it as well... It’s Used Oats.


43 posted on 11/12/2011 4:39:06 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: jjotto

Linn Co is not a college county - U of Ia is Johnson Co... UNI - Blackhawk Co... And ISU - Story Co.


44 posted on 11/12/2011 4:40:44 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: DManA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_caucuses

if the 10 Cain supporters at the East Succotash caucus select someone from their ranks to be the delegate to the county convention .... and the guy flips to Newt at the county level .... yes, y’all can get screwed. Takes a bit of savvy to be successful.


45 posted on 11/12/2011 4:43:24 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (I will go back to New Hampshire to campaign.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

I visited Iowa a month ago and introduced an aging very conservative cousin to Herman Cain. He was extremely interested. He is a super businessman and liked the message.

His daughter was blase. She said....yes, but can he win. Those who perceive Mitt the winner will vote for him rather than risk losing their vote


46 posted on 11/12/2011 4:45:23 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: bert

WIllard has ZERO operation here. If he places above 5th, I will be thoroughly amazed.


47 posted on 11/12/2011 4:47:43 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Yup. Screw East Succatash. Their job is to send money and vote like good little republicans.

Well if the geniuses at the top screw up I don’t vote. If Obama wins blame them not me.


48 posted on 11/12/2011 4:48:23 PM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

A lot of caucuses do have a straw vote for presidential preference, and then delegates and committees are chosen separately with little regard for presidential preference.

Other caucuses (usually with large numbers of attendees) do apportion delegates and committees by presidential preference groups.

Either way, the GOP remains under control of those who raise and spend the money. In my experience, these have been bankers and real estate/insurance guys. Evangelicals and Paulistinians sometimes take charge, but seem to lose interest and let control go back to the old RINOs.


49 posted on 11/12/2011 4:50:39 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: TBBT
John Batchelor

Somewhat conservative but
he and his guests pimp Myth.


50 posted on 11/12/2011 4:53:20 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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