Skip to comments.Romney has clear lead among Republicans
Posted on 11/13/2011 5:39:57 AM PST by Solaia
Mitt Romney has a growing lead in the race for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination, and almost half of the party's voters expect him to be the nominee, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll.
Twenty-eight percent of Republicans backed the former Massachusetts governor, giving him a lead of 8 percentage points over his nearest challenger Herman Cain in the poll, taken November 10-11.
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1) Obama ads are attacking Romney. I havent seen a negative ad about any other candidate except him. Why do you think that is?
2) Obama seems to ignore Cain despite polls providing evidence that he should not. Why?
Is Cain just a niche candidate? Loved here, but essentially unknown to the average voter?
As much as I like Cain, Im starting to think hes nothing more than a novelty. Pity.
I know he's raised a decent amount of money, but nothing like what he'll need for a general election. What am I missing here?
online poll = garbage
What about “among conservatives”?
If Romeny has hit 28 percent in this poll he had better enjoy it while he can. It is the high water mark.
“online poll = garbage”
I hope it’s that simple. The thing that bothers me is, Romney and Obama have pretty bright political operatives working for them. You would think they have a clue...
Why does Romney attack Perry and not Cain? Why does Obama continue to attack Romney?
Eh, a reuters ‘poll’...Herman Cain eats those for breakfast!
Where is Obama running ads against Romney? Why would he be running ads during the Republican primary season?
This sounds extremely credible (sarc, of course).
Agreed. Online polls mean absolutely nothing, other than the preferences of a particular website’s viewers.
Be advised that the MSM, political elites and assorted other asshats are merely attempting to pick the GOP nominee again.
Pay no attention. It’s just more worthless noise from Reuters and Yahoo. Both of which are left leaning propoganda outlets.
“Where is Obama running ads against Romney? Why would he be running ads during the Republican primary season?”
I saw it locally here, in NJ. That’s what shocked me so much because we’ll likely “go blue” at the end of the day. I wouldn’t think this is place I’d see an ad.
Among RINO talkingheads in the media, Romney enjoys 100% of the vote. lol
Those are valid points. (i.e. the websites) But it still doesn’t address the issue about who is attacking who.
It makes me think that they are attacking the people with the money because they know the others can’t last. Maybe that’s just my jaded view.
I still think it’s going to be Romney. And I hope he picks Cain as his VP....
I guess we’ll see.
More disinformation. I’d ignore it. The only poll that metters is the one taken on election day.
Pre-election polls are getting less accurate over time as fewer people are willing to respond to them.
Please replace ‘nominees’ with candidates. I’m not quite finished with my first cup, yet.
You would think people on FR could figure this out on their own.
Nah! Gotta post the story and react the same way the MSM expects them to.
Posting an online poll...
What the hell was the OP even thinking?
Maybe we can even attach a clever lil label to Romney. Let's see, how’z, “Romney, the Maverick for Change” sound?
Yea yea, Maverick for change.
Garbage online poll.
Romney goes Rogue? :)
If you had been here longer you’d already know the answers. Perhaps you should do some research first.
The things you need to know about Romney is:
1. He’s not a conservative.
2. His poll numbers plateaued and aren’t improving.
3. He can’t carry the South.
4. He’s a loser.
I’m thinking that since it’s 51 days (counting today) until the Iowa Caucuses, anything can still happen. 51 days in politics is an eternity. After the Iowa Caususes, I think you will see 4 candidates still in the race and polls will start to mean something then, and only then. I predict the survivors of Iowa will be: Romney, Gingrich, Cain and Paul. Possibly one more; who might do better in Iowa than people think he will, Rick Santorum. Then, NH and SC will weed out all but two. From there, I’m thinking it will be Romney and Newt or Romney and Cain. Paul will still be a player, but an insignificant one. Then, polls will take on a new meaning.
Monday is the critical day, since the full affect (if any) to Cain from that last bimbo will be seen in the Monday polls.
What I will be looking for:
does the gap between Romney and Cain shrink or even worse do they switch positions... this is far more important than the raw numbers since different polls use different methodologies.
Thus, if polls on Monday show Cain at 20 ...
That would be fine if Romney is at 16 and Gingrich at 12
But if Romney is at 25 and Cain 20 that's an entirely different.
That Marist Poll on Friday was garbage (polled non republicans) and this is just an online poll, which is also garbage.
Are you a concern troll?
Don’t care. I will *never* vote for Romney. I’m rooting for Cain or Gingrich.
Consider the source - Reuters.
They are nothing but Obama pimps so they minimize Cain and attack Romney or any other running RINO competition.
BTW, I’m banned from Reuters posting so you know where I’m coming from.
Nice try Rueters.
I think Perry will stick with it at least until South Carolina, but if he doesn’t win anything by Florida he is out.
It would be VERY good if Perry dropped out before Texas votes, because Cain could pick up more delegates here than all the previous likely primary wins of Romney combined, and Romney polls really bad here low single digits.
I tend to think your analysis is spot on. I would add that I’d like to see Newt stick around a while, but I wonder where his money will be coming from.
The other thing is, when people DO start dropping out, where does there money go? And of course, the wild card is Palin. If she supports anyone, what effect will that have.
I wonder, since she ran with a Rino, will she support another Rino. If she were to endorse Romney, I wonder what impact that would have? (besides causing a few vessels to burst!)
If online polls were worth a damn, Ron Paul would have a double-digit lead in almost every state.
Romney is in the same spot that Giuliani was in during the 2008 race. AND Hillary Clinton. And Howard Dean in the ‘04 Democrat primaries.
Don’t worry about it. These races are volatile and anything can change between now and the first voting.
A simple answer, Yes or No.
Do you support Romney for the GOP Primary nomination?
Not at all. But I am a realist.
I think the problem is real. I think saying “Romney sucks” is fine, but not realistic. I think saying “polls suck” is fine, and may be right, but also is not realistic.
Romney isn’t going anywhere. He has an endless stream of money. It takes money to win.
Because this was an online poll, typical margins of error do not apply. Despite that, various recognized methods were used to provide a representative sample and weighted results.
It's a bullshit on-line poll, they all are.
Some even count multiple votes from the same computer.
I voted yesterday for Herman Cain and the flawed poll counted multiple votes.
My personal voting drove his results from 47.5 to 50.5 and I got tired of the silly game and left the site.
Even if the poll only counts your vote once, there is no way to prove the a "registered pubbie" is really one, if they ever voted or intend to vote.
On line polls are just the media's attempt to use a technique to shape the news.
“Do you support Romney for the GOP Primary nomination?”
No, not at all. Honestly, right now I lean Cain, but I’m really not thrilled with any of them. And that’s what stinks.
IN YOUR DREAMS, RomneyBOT.
Poor sport spoiler Romney doing what he does best:
"Despite outspending his rivals by huge margins throughout the primaries,
(Mitt Romney, Carpetbagger UT,CA,MA,NH,Mexico) lost Iowa, South Carolina, Florida and California.
The only primaries he won were in Michigan, where Dad was governor; LDS states;
and a few states on Super Tuesday in which his California-obsessed rivals
couldn't spare the cash to advertise.
Only John Connolly in 1968 had a worse cash-to-delegates ratio.
And John McCain rightly did not like Romney's tactics during the primaries.
(W)hen (Romney's early leads) started slipping away, he resorted to unfair,
distorted, scorched-earth negative ads, betting that his opponents couldn't
afford to spend enough for the truth to catch up to his charges."
[Romney: A Mistake for McCain, 7/23/2008, Dick Morris]
Don’t believe anything that promotes Romney as the inevitable choice. This is what the Dems, RINOs and MSM all want. They never have a good thing to say about any candidate but Romney because they want to demoralize you into believing their lies.
Repeat the lie of Romney being inevitable enough times and they are hoping people will believe it and either vote for him or stay home.
DON’T BELIEVE IT.
You mistake is beliving a Reuters poll. Returers has a long history of push polling.
Here is a more accurate image of the race
In addition, the reason 0 does not attack Cain is he knows Karl Rove and the GOP Establishment Media is all ready doing his job for him in regards to Cain
Obama seems to be ignoring all the GOP primary candidates. I haven’t seen one Obama political ad (unless you count every time he speaks), but specifically I haven’t seen one ad against Romney.
Romney is not a conservative. So he’ll lose the conservative vote if he’s selected as the GOP candidate. The Republicans will lose the presidential election. Again. Conservatives learned their lesson with McCain.
The Union League Club aristocracy think that if they force Mitt down our throat, we’ll grudgingly vote for him in the general election. I don’t believe it will happen this time. If only folks like Rove would throw their weight behind a conservative, imagine the momentum that would be generated. Instead they savage conservative candidates and alienate themselves from (I’m guessing) a third of voting population.
If it takes letting Obama have another 4 years to ruin the Nation, then so be it. Let the GOP wither, and Tea Party Prosper.
And where did Milt get it?
"(The GroundZero Mosque) cleared its final hurdle
developers plan to build the $100 million center which will include a mosque.
Since its incipient stages in July 2009, when a Muslim-run real-estate development
company purchased the damaged, vacant building and land where the new center
will be built, the project has sparked controversy and debate.
.... the tattered building that was bought by the Muslim real estate company had
been owned by a subsidiary of Bain Capital, a company Romney founded in 1984.
So its OK if his company can profit off the sale of the land ."
If more had voted for McCain in November, we’d probably be looking at Sarah Palin’s campaign this year.
Did we learn this lesson?
Concerned, are you?
“Why does Romney attack Perry and not Cain? Why does Obama continue to attack Romney?”
I’m not sure but I can pose a question. Just how would Obama go about attacking Cain? Herman Cain is the real American black man to Obama’s pretender. Herman Cain is a man with a real resume to Obama’s “community organizer” pathetic background. Herman Cain has a known and open history to Obama’s obscure past. Just how would Obama attack Cain in a way that does not backfire on Obama? He could point out Cain’s lack of political background and the fact that Cain has never held elective office but I don’t think that will work very well, people are about ready to PREFER someone without a history in politics. Obama may indeed be involved in the behind the scenes attacks already but the phony sexual harassment scandal doesn’t seem to be working. Everyone I talk to sees it as a lot of garbage.
The McCain/Palin ticket was up ++8 pts. days prior to September 18th, 2008.
So the RomneyTeam attacked Gov. Palin and her children to throw Election2008.
Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers, some of whom are currently working for Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin's bid for the White House,
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide, now working for McCain-Palin.
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
He's in charge on November 5th.'"
The Prowler added: "Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."
The Romney supporters in the McCain campaign had access to internal polling which indicated well in advance of the November 4 election that McCain had no chance to win.
So they began working to position their man Mitt for a run in 2012. Just two days after the election,The Palmetto Scoop reported:
"One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"Im told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palins people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romneys former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
These aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.
"...there are some staffers on the McCain campaign who seriously screwed up the roll out of Sarah Palin, to which Governor Palin herself objected.
These staffers are now out trying to finish her off thinking, as typical D.C. types do, that if they dont do it to her, shell do it to them. They just never understood who Palin is or what she is about."
"Likewise, I do think there are some staffers and others who expect Mitt Romney to run again in 2012,
they decided McCain could not win, and decided to undermine Sarah Palin and her chances hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."
"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign? (Mark Wallace, Romney pimp)
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the Diva leak was Nicolle Wallaces husband."
The only thing Romney is leading the Republican field in is our contempt for him.
Forgive my ego, but I sort of like the last sentence. Out with the old tagline and in with the new!
I live in west central Ohio, and do not know one person who is supporting Romney. Less than six months ago when I mentioned Cain, everyone of them asked, “Who’s Cain”? Now, he is all the talk. Evidently, this area is checking the man out, and word of mouth is doing wonders.
I read I thinkon drudge that gingrich is ahead?????