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On 'SNL,' Penn State scandal offends even Satan
AP ^ | Nov. 13, 2011

Posted on 11/13/2011 7:32:08 PM PST by Colofornian

NEW YORK (AP) — On "Saturday Night Live," even the devil was offended by the Penn State child sex abuse scandal.

"SNL" cast member Jason Sudeikis reprised his role as Satan, appearing with red horns and pitchfork. The devil was informed by "Weekend Update" host Seth Meyers of sex charges against a former defensive coordinator and allegations that university officials failed to report the abuse.

Even he was disturbed by the news. Addressing Penn State students who protested football coach Joe Paterno's firing, the devil spoke directly into the camera, asking, "Do you know how bad that made you look?"

Disgusted by the scandal, the devil says, "Evil isn't what it used to be."

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: New York; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: comedy; devil; pennstate; sandusky; scandal; sexoffenders; snl
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From the article: ...appearing with red horns and pitchfork. The devil was informed by "Weekend Update" host Seth Meyers of sex charges against a former defensive coordinator and allegations that university officials failed to report the abuse. Even he was disturbed by the news. Addressing Penn State students who protested football coach Joe Paterno's firing, the devil spoke directly into the camera, asking, "Do you know how bad that made you look?"

Shame added to extreme shame.

(What Penn State is notoriously known for best these days)

1 posted on 11/13/2011 7:32:12 PM PST by Colofornian
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2 posted on 11/13/2011 7:35:11 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Colofornian

for some reason, the fault is with JoePa, who never witnessed anything yet reported what he heard, and not the homosexual(s) that committed the acts. go figure

I’d like to see liability suits filed against any institution or company that allowed children to be alone with homosexuals as they would be exposing them to radically increased risk of molestation

we can call it the Penn state lesson

if you employ homosexuals around children, you run a very high risk of such an incident. if any child is abused and it can be proven the management knew the perp was a homosexual... then the company and the execs should be held personally responsible.


3 posted on 11/13/2011 7:38:52 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Colofornian

There are still some lifestyle choices seen as “wrong” by the American news media?


4 posted on 11/13/2011 7:40:15 PM PST by H.Akston
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To: H.Akston

(and pop culture)


5 posted on 11/13/2011 7:42:27 PM PST by H.Akston
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To: sten
for some reason, the fault is with JoePa, who never witnessed anything yet reported what he heard, and not the homosexual(s) that committed the acts. go figure

You wouldn't be good as either a court case reporter or a sports journalist!

The last count I had was:
Charges vs. Sandusky: 40
Charges vs. Paterno: 0

Yet you would report a 40-0 game of Sandusky Preteen Prep vs. Paterno Academy as a showdown "all Paterno," eh?

6 posted on 11/13/2011 7:43:27 PM PST by Colofornian (I’ve been amazed at some of the JoPologists and McScuses that have been surfacing)
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To: Colofornian

The Penn State students were not the ones doing the child raping. Why hang this around their necks. Was it your fault that there was a drive by shooting in your neighborhood - no, it was not. The students are as frustrated as any of us that a mad dog rapist was running loose and people in power gave him a pass to operate. unheeded.


7 posted on 11/13/2011 7:44:49 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: sten

It should have been the Michael Jackson lesson. Wonder how SNL handled that miserable unfolding. Don’t recall any Libs taking the side of those victims - whether paid of by Jackson, or not.


8 posted on 11/13/2011 7:45:38 PM PST by cricket (Stop the madness. . . Vote the KING out!)
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To: sten

Ya know, that just makes too much sense. What’s wrong with you?


9 posted on 11/13/2011 7:49:47 PM PST by outofstyle (Down All the Days)
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To: Colofornian
That was one of the funnier skits on SNL recently. The devil didn't know about the scandal and just assumed it was some recruiting violation when he heard Penn State was in trouble. In the end he was so horrified that he said he was going to quit his job and return to being a customer service rep for Time Warner Cable. Personally, I think that may be a higher rank in evilness compared to ruler of Hell.
10 posted on 11/13/2011 7:54:31 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Herman Cain: possibly the escapee most dangerous to the Democrats since Frederick Douglass.)
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To: H.Akston
There are still some lifestyle choices seen as “wrong” by the American news media?

No they are not. They would rather pin attention on Joe Paterno to deflect attention from the homosexual network in major institutions. The perversion is not Joe Paterno. It's the NAMBLA types who get cover from the accepted homosexual networks. Joe Paterno is the red herring in this stinking mess. Show me where the homos are taking heat from the media.

11 posted on 11/13/2011 7:57:30 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: H.Akston

Who are they to judge another’s sexual orientation? Witch hunting Christians!/s/


12 posted on 11/13/2011 7:58:54 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: sten

“for some reason, the fault is with JoePa, who never witnessed anything yet reported what he heard”

My sons and future son-in-law were having that discussion the other night. I cannot conceive of walking away from the rape of a child. That’s something a man just can’t do. You have to do*something*right*then, even if it costs you your life. That’s why God invented men: to confront danger and let the women and children get away.

So, McQueary—the guy who saw the rape—notified JoePa. Did JoePa resolve the issue? No. At that point it became McQueary’s inescapable moral duty to follow up and get that pervert’s hooks off of little boys.

So, JoePa notified the athletic director. Did the athletic director resolve the issue? No. At that point it became JoePa’s inescapable moral duty to follow up and get that pervert’s hooks off of little boys.

That “I notified the people above me” merde is just the Nuremburg defense turned inside out. That dog won’t hunt. If the people above you don’t take care of it, you have to take it on again.

Everybody who found out and failed to bring it to a halt is guilty of dereliction of duty as a human being and should be jailed for a long time.

Limbaugh said the other day that there is an element to this that no one in the media can bring up without being fired, including himself. I wonder if that was the homosexual element.


13 posted on 11/13/2011 7:59:06 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Ciexyz
and people in power gave him a pass to operate

And yet what we've seen from Penn State supporters, from students to their fans, is continued support of some of those "people in power [who] gave him a pass to operate." [Paterno, for example]

From Penn State students rioting last Wed. night...
...to Penn State fans verbally abusing and trying to censor a single protestor -- a father who id'd with the victims -- @ Saturday's game.

Source on Penn State fans: Washington Times, Nov. 13, 2011 At Penn State’s stadium, profanity, scorn greet one father’s protest

14 posted on 11/13/2011 8:00:31 PM PST by Colofornian (I’ve been amazed at some of the JoPologists and McScuses that have been surfacing)
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To: Colofornian

And what I see by you and osme others is falling right into the liberal media and honosexual agenda.


15 posted on 11/13/2011 8:03:14 PM PST by Twink
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To: sten

Haven’t you been paying attention? Sandusky has been charged with 40 counts.


16 posted on 11/13/2011 8:04:27 PM PST by bigbob
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To: dsc

Well said.


17 posted on 11/13/2011 8:05:19 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Ciexyz

We can call it a class in ethics given by the University of Hard Knocks. This is what happens when the university professors they listen to only teach amoral humanism.

We Americans can pretend that the ethics of natural law do not matter and even that they do not exist, but they do and if you violate them long enough, the professor of hard knock university pays a visit.

The students will benefit from it if they allow themselves to think rather than just chant football and p.c. slogans.


18 posted on 11/13/2011 8:05:21 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Colofornian

JoePa knew in 2002 and reported it to the college when someone surprised Sandusky while he was raping a ten year old in the showers. If anyone one knows of ten year old being raped and doesn’t pursue it till the guy is dead or in jail then ......(you fill in the blank)


19 posted on 11/13/2011 8:07:25 PM PST by badpacifist (I was sexually harrassed by Herman Cain and all I got was this tag line)
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To: Colofornian

Does SNL and the MSM realize WE DON’T CARE how we look to them. We are protesting THEM. We are protesting what the B of T did to cover their own asses.

Thank God some don’t care how it looks to others. Especially SNL and the media.

You remember, the media who is against us, right?


20 posted on 11/13/2011 8:08:38 PM PST by Twink
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To: bigbob

in the media all you hear about is Paterno.

the left is using this to bash a successful and conservative couch


21 posted on 11/13/2011 8:09:19 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Twink; Lancey Howard
...others is falling right into the liberal media..

This response of yours was to post #14. The only MSM I cited there was The Washington Times, the more conservative alternative to the Washington Post.

I certainly don't need to defend the Times in any way...it's got its ownership issues. But if your reference was to the Times as "liberal," (& I'm not exactly sure what you were referencing), hey, the Times its still more conservative than the Penn State campus who's been headed by Spanier...a one-time candidate (as a Dem) for Obama's Secretary of Ed.

Several posters -- including Penn State grads -- have noted when Spanier came on board Penn State he made it the most gayest Penn State ever with events & groups he encouraged/allowed to flourish.

22 posted on 11/13/2011 8:10:15 PM PST by Colofornian (I’ve been amazed at some of the JoPologists and McScuses that have been surfacing)
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To: dsc; Lancey Howard
>> an element to this that no one in the media can bring up without being fired ... I wonder if that was the homosexual element.

Discussed in this thread...
If Jerry Sandusky had raped little GIRLS...


23 posted on 11/13/2011 8:10:41 PM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jet.)
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To: Twink; Lancey Howard
Does SNL and the MSM realize WE DON’T CARE how we look to them. We are protesting THEM. We are protesting what the B of T did to cover their own asses. Thank God some don’t care how it looks to others. Especially SNL and the media. You remember, the media who is against us, right?

OK. This clarifies Post #15...you were referencing SNL -- not the Times.

Still. My comment from last post still holds re: Spanier.

I suppose you've protested ... oh...every month or so...all the pro-homosexual stuff Spanier imported or encouraged to flourish on campus, eh?

(Or is it Penn State presidents can be pro-homosexual, but the MSM can't?)

24 posted on 11/13/2011 8:13:49 PM PST by Colofornian (I’ve been amazed at some of the JoPologists and McScuses that have been surfacing)
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To: dsc

“Limbaugh said the other day that there is an element to this that no one in the media can bring up without being fired, including himself. I wonder if that was the homosexual element.”

All I know is that this whole situation makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.

What we already know is bad enough...there seems to be a “sense” out there...something unspoken.
It’s so bad, no one will bring it to light.

Whatever “it” is? It’s gotta be a doozy.


25 posted on 11/13/2011 8:14:46 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: dsc

McQueray was the only witness. Joe was told a week later. there is nothing to break up or stop. the event was over. should he have gone into Sandusky’s office with a baseball bat? he’d be fired for that and rightly so, as it was all hearsay

the only one at fault were those that hired Sandusky, Sandusky himself, and those homosexuals that were in his inner circle participating in the ‘pimping’


26 posted on 11/13/2011 8:14:51 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Colofornian

I’m a Penn State alum and SHAME is the last thing I feel or think. No internet moron is gonna make me feel that. The media who I can’t stand will never make me feel that.

I’m not ashamed of my Country or my alma mater.

WE ARE PEMM STATE and nothing will change that.

i’m ashamed that the BOT and the Media focused on Paterno rather than the victims of the homosexual rapist and the lobby who supports them.

I will never be ashamed by the actions of a few. What happened at Penn State isn’t about the students or alumni. It’s about the hono agenda and how we allowed and continue to allow it to happen. It’s how we allow the homo agenda to take prescedence...the most homo friendly president and what he stated he would do and subsequently did to a once great school


27 posted on 11/13/2011 8:21:01 PM PST by Twink
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To: sten

Joe was told the day following the rape.

Had the police been called, the victim could have been identified rather easily.
One day after the rape, a medical exam could still have confirmed rape.
The victim could have received treatment.
A rapist could have been caught.
Other victims could have been spared.

epic fail.


28 posted on 11/13/2011 8:21:14 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

“Show me where the homos are taking heat from the media.”

I agree that almost all of the despicable scoundrels who work for the lamestream misleadia would work to suppress the truth about same-sex attraction disorder.

What I’m wondering is if things have gotten so bad that even those who might want to tell the truth—for instance, “If you employ homosexuals around children, you run a very high risk of such an incident,”—are afraid to speak.

I keep wondering about that aspect of this that not even Limbaugh could mention without being fired.


29 posted on 11/13/2011 8:22:54 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc; Gene Eric; Lancey Howard
Limbaugh said the other day that there is an element to this that no one in the media can bring up without being fired, including himself. I wonder if that was the homosexual element.

Could be. [Lancey Howard's theory mentioned by Gene Eric @ post #23: If the victims were girls, they made have been rescued...]

Could also be that the reality is that most of these victims were black...IOW...Penn State officials (admin) & coaches apparently devalued black boys to such an extent that they deemed them "expendable" in exchange of retaining the mythic glory of Penn State football. Some sacred narratives need protecting, ya know...which is, I think why Penn State fans were verbally abusing a lone protester who id'd with the victims Saturday.

See At Penn State’s stadium, profanity, scorn greet one father’s protest

A father like that should not have had to endure so much Penn State fan profanity, verbal abuse, somebody slapping him on the stomach, people knocking his signs down, etc.

Penn State: Got Class? (No)

Penn State fans: Humility post-scandal? (No)

Penn State fans: All those who clapped in rapid succession as players were try to pray pre-game: Classy? (No)

Penn State student body: Dissing Christianity @ its candlelight vigil Friday as they sang John Lennon's "Imagine." Respect for diversity that includes Christianity? (No)

30 posted on 11/13/2011 8:23:41 PM PST by Colofornian (I’ve been amazed at some of the JoPologists and McScuses that have been surfacing)
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To: sten

Like that would happen.

Yep. for some reason the fault is with JoePA, the old guy with old school values, who votes Republican and who never witnessed anything and reported it when he was told. But let’s blame him. It’s easier that way.


31 posted on 11/13/2011 8:25:08 PM PST by Twink
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To: Twink
I’m a Penn State alum and SHAME is the last thing I feel or think. No internet moron is gonna make me feel that

Internet moron? (You sound like those Penn State fans who verbally abused John Matko in that link I put @ post #30...did you contribute to that verbal abuse?)

What about that post (#30). Anything there "worthy" of Penn State shame. Or is that part of your "celebrate perversity" going on at Penn State under the "celebrate diversity" banner?

32 posted on 11/13/2011 8:26:47 PM PST by Colofornian (I’ve been amazed at some of the JoPologists and McScuses that have been surfacing)
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To: Ciexyz

Again, it’s far easier to hate Paterno and hate Penn State and blame it all on him and the students/alumni than deal with the real issue.


33 posted on 11/13/2011 8:27:21 PM PST by Twink
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Exactly.

And show me where heat is directed here on FR. At Paterno. At Penn State. At the students and alumni. Everyone BUT who is should be directed at.


34 posted on 11/13/2011 8:30:41 PM PST by Twink
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To: sten
"the left is using this to bash a successful and conservative couch"

Conservative? Joe's last contribution to a Republican was in '04. In '08, he gave to both Joe Sestak and Barack Obama. The Republicans he did support included Arlen Specter and his own son. Don't believe me?

Click Here.

35 posted on 11/13/2011 8:39:12 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: SaraJohnson

“We can call it a class in ethics given by the University of Hard Knocks. This is what happens when the university professors they listen to only teach amoral humanism.”

Try this article:
http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/j-matt-barber/sexual-anarchy


36 posted on 11/13/2011 8:49:45 PM PST by uptoolate (For the record: I have complete assurance that nothing can pluck me from His hand)
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To: Twink; PA-RIVER; sten
Yep. for some reason the fault is with JoePA, the old guy with old school values, who votes Republican and who never witnessed anything and reported it when he was told. But let’s blame him. It’s easier that way...it’s far easier to hate Paterno and hate Penn State and blame it all on him and the students/alumni than deal with the real issue. [two posts fused together]

If Paterno had run his team the way he oversaw abuse reports, 'Lion fans would have screamed for his head.

Scenario #1:

A conversation between two Penn State fans during a mythical game in the 2000s:

PSU FAN #1: "Oh, wow! The quarterback got creamed! No blocking! Our line didn't defend him whatsoever! Those linebackers are abusing him at will!"
PSU FAN #2: "NOW what's Paterno doing?"
PSU FAN #1: "I don't know. We're down 24-20. There's three minutes left in the game. 95 yards to go. No timeouts left. And he's huddling with his players on the sideline as the clock is ticking. Hasn't he heard of 'new inventions' in football like a 'no-huddle' offense when the game is on the line? You've got to be kidding!"
PSU FAN #2: "I'm taking a closer look with my binoculars. OK. The Wide Receivers' coach just said somethin' that took all afternoon to JoePa. Now...JoePa's not even talking. He's not saying a word. The QB's waitin' for him to report what play they should run. He's taking all day to get something said! Where's his sense of urgency?"

[play is then run]

PS FAN#1: "Oh, no! He didn't get out of bounds or get a first down! The clock is still running! What's Paterno doing?"
PS FAN#2, using his binoculars for a "closer" look: "He's...he's...huddling on the sideline with the athletic director and some other dude. I don't think he's even paying attention to the game! Wait. He's...he's got his face toward the field. He's mumbling something. But he certainly looks like he's paying 100% attention to what's going on the field and 0% to those other 2 guys. But why are they so closely huddled and off away from everybody? It looks like some top-secret meetin' or somethin'."
PSFAN#1: "Hmm. So he's paying 100% attention to Penn State football; if those 2 guys are trying to have a convo with JoePa & not getting his attention no matter how far they're away from all else on the sideline, they must think he's paying overly too much attention to Penn State football."

37 posted on 11/13/2011 8:50:59 PM PST by Colofornian (I’ve been amazed at some of the JoPologists and McScuses that have been surfacing)
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To: Twink; PA-RIVER; sten
Yep. for some reason the fault is with JoePA, the old guy with old school values, who votes Republican and who never witnessed anything and reported it when he was told. But let’s blame him. It’s easier that way...it’s far easier to hate Paterno and hate Penn State and blame it all on him and the students/alumni than deal with the real issue. [two posts fused together]

If Paterno had run his team the way he oversaw abuse reports, 'Lion fans would have screamed for his head.

Scenario #2:

Nov. 23, 1998...Weekly Penn State coaches' offensive strategy meeting for the upcoming Big 10 game vs. Michigan State:

PS Asst Coach #1: "We've looked @ all 9 game films of the Spartans this year. We've found more gaps than ever in their defense. It's almost like their defensive coordinator is losing it this year!"
JoePa, having studied the detailed written scouting report, says to the assistant: "I gotta hand it to you, you've uncovered more patterns of blown coverage and missed alignment calls than ever! And with such fine-tuned detail broken down by player, by quarter, by offensive alignment, etc.!"
PS Asst Coach #1: "Well, not only that, but I've come across something the defensive coordinator does that is so secret, and yet so obvious, I didn't even want to risk writing it down in the scouting report."
JoePa: "Well, what is it? Tell me straight up and don't leave out any details."
PS Asst Coach #1: "Well, when the defensive coordinator communicates to his boys on the field, he telegraphs his precise coverage scheme, his aggressive blitz packages, his call for the linebackers to especially punish & abuse the QB, etc. Want to know how he does and how we found out fair & square?"
JoePa: "No. Not interested. Let's go back to talking about those details in your written scouting report."

38 posted on 11/13/2011 8:51:11 PM PST by Colofornian (I’ve been amazed at some of the JoPologists and McScuses that have been surfacing)
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To: Twink; PA-RIVER; sten
Yep. for some reason the fault is with JoePA, the old guy with old school values, who votes Republican and who never witnessed anything and reported it when he was told. But let’s blame him. It’s easier that way...it’s far easier to hate Paterno and hate Penn State and blame it all on him and the students/alumni than deal with the real issue. [two posts fused together]

If Paterno had run his team the way he oversaw abuse reports, 'Lion fans would have screamed for his head.

Scenario #3 in the 2000s:

The head of recruiting for Penn State is talking to a local journalist, who because of 100% favorable coverage, he's giving an "inside scoop" as to how Penn State handles recruits on campus for visits.

Assistant coach head of PSU recruiting (to local sports journalist): "We've got a local boy on campus today. Best prospect to EVER come out of State College. Heads & tails above EVERY recruit we've EVER attempted to commit to Penn State. We've got a great inside shot. A number of years ago, our defensive coordinator, Jerry Sandusky groomed him at his sports camps and his foundation when he was in 4th and 5th grade and Sundusky even had him accompany him for the January 1999 Alamo Bowl."

"Besides," continues the PSU assistant coach. "This kid's lived and breathed both Joe Paterno and Penn State football his entire life. He's 'culturally' already a Penn State convert. And I've got the treat of his life today. He's never had a convo with JoePa. Until today, that is. All JoePa has to do is open his mouth and say ANYTHING and this kid will commit in his heart today! I mean, Joe Pa's like a 'god' to him. And JoePa, being the most powerful coach in this state and maybe this nation, will use his unique considerable influence to sinch this commitment. Well, let me go introduce you to the kid and we'll take him in to meet JoePa."

Assistant coach head of PSU recruiting introduces the kid to Coach Paterno. Coach Paterno repeatedly nods in affirmation to the assistant coach, looking right at the assistant coach. But then. He just stands there. Like. Forever. Silence. Nothing. Not a word. Nada. He's heard the introduction. He know the boy exists. He knows the boy's not a phantom. But not ONCE does he EVER open his mouth to use his considerable unique influence to try to get this boy wonder to commit to Penn State.

A day later, JoePa is heard talking to his athletic director: "Yeah, our recruiting head brought this top-notch recruit in to introduce him to me yesterday. I think YOU should handle it, Tim. I think YOU should speak to the boy. 'Cause I'm not. I'm not goin' to open my mouth to him. You do it. Or, you, Gary (pointing to the VP of Finance). Either of you should speak to the boy. It'll be front-page headlines once this kid commits to being a player at Penn State. But I'm not going to talk to this kid, if I can help it."

PSU A.D. Tim Curley: "But, Joe, if he commits it'll turn the entire program around. If I talk, it'll swing the program around the wrong way. I think (President) Graham should talk to the boy. We'll set up a meeting first with the head of recruiting in, say, oh, 10 days or so. We'll discuss it all then."

VP Gary Schultz: "Don't we run the risk of not treating this matter urgently enough if we don't have that meeting for another 10 days? I mean what if someone else pounces on the kid?"

PSU A.D. Tim Curley: "If he's pounced upon, he's pounced upon. Besides, he's black. There's plenty of black kids for that role. If he was white, his talent would be so rare among white people that we'd have to energize every ounce in our being to protect him."

39 posted on 11/13/2011 8:51:32 PM PST by Colofornian (I’ve been amazed at some of the JoPologists and McScuses that have been surfacing)
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To: dsc

I was on another site, talking about this. And I made a statement about how shocking and sickening the subject of homosexual rape is.

For making a statement about homosexual rape, I was flamed and my comments were rescinded from that site. Numerous people commented that the fact that he abused boys is not important. They said that rape is tragic, whether done to a girl or a boy.

The MSM will probably de-emphasize the fact that this was a homosexual raping boys. Just as they did with the Catholic Church scandal. Most of the chidren abused by priests were boys, but, the media always talked about that scandal as child abuse in general terms, without specifying who was most likely to be targeted.


40 posted on 11/13/2011 8:54:43 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Twink; PA-RIVER; sten
In my three previous posts, I gave analogies -- three different scenarios -- to how Penn State fans would have gone absolutely NUTS! had they learned that Paterno was coaching their football program the way I described.

I guess this is one of the things that "gets me" about Paterno apologists.

They think Paterno...

...knows about the no-huddle urgency involved on the part of his offense when his team his down late in the game; but when it comes to offenses (as in criminal offenses) late in the night where children are at risk, they suddenly defend a Paterno who takes the time to do all these weekend huddles and who shows no urgency to either report the crime to his superiors (24 hours) or to authorities (never...til subpoenaed). [see Scenario I]

...is smart enough to snuff out the smallest of opponents' details to exploit on the field a dozen times a year; but when it comes to Elephant behavior of coaches off the field, they suddenly think he's as dense as possible. [See Scenario II]

...or they treat Paterno as if he was some sort of a "god" -- strong enough to withstand a board attempt to dump him as coach in 2005; yet was so limp-minded in 2002 that he couldn't utilize his unique position of influence or considerable power to even encourage authorities to investigate Sandusky for 2002 specific behavior on campus! [see Scenario III]

Hmmm...Tell you what Penn State fans...if your coaches were to do on the field [ignore scouting details; huddle up during urgent situations and show absolutely NO sense of urgency; and use tucked-away info to influence potential recruits]...you'd have their "butt" in a sling.

And that would be just for violating common-sense on-field football protocol when victories are at stake...
BUT...when it comes to exercising common-sense off-field safety protocol when children's lives are at stake...
...oh...ho-hum...who cares...?

41 posted on 11/13/2011 8:55:15 PM PST by Colofornian (I’ve been amazed at some of the JoPologists and McScuses that have been surfacing)
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To: dsc

It is the homosexual element. The honosexual agenda. We can’t say that though.

I can’t imagine what McQueary saw and how he reacted. I’d like to think I would have reacted differently. I think I would have. I know my husband would have. Rescuing the child and beating the perp to an inch of his life. We’re not supposed to feel that way. I stil think I would.

I’m appalled McQueary didn’t act...didn’t do anything. But I think it’s how we are teaching our kids. And, he saw a coach, his former coach doing this, and he’s been taught not to react like a man, not to think aomwrhing is wrong with this, and hell to protect his job.

It’s all freaky, imo. Then he goes to Paterno the next day and Paterno reports it to his supervisor. Nothing is done.

But what makes a 28 yr old man, huge man at 6’2+ and 240 lbs not intervene when he sees a 10 or 11 yr old kid being raped in the locker room showers?

Even if he couldn’t intervene, all the cops.

I don’t get it.

But the blaming has to stop. It’s not Paterno’s fault. He didn’t witness it. What if he did? What the outcome be different? Who knows.

McQuery told him something of what he saw. McQuery didn’t stop it in progress. According to GJ report/presentment, he looked into the eyes of a 10 yr old being raped and walked away.

But it bothered him enough to tell his parent and to then tell Paterno. He knew it wasn’t right or normal.

I don’t understand it all.


42 posted on 11/13/2011 8:55:56 PM PST by Twink
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The media spin is not surprising, look at how the recent child rape and sex slavery of children by a lengthy European elite, many of whom are in the Netherlands and on the Euro-council was treated as ‘merely’ a child pornography ring.


43 posted on 11/13/2011 8:57:44 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Colofornian

4 pages of rambling fantasy is a sign of psychosis.

you might want to seek professional help


44 posted on 11/13/2011 9:00:13 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: dsc
Limbaugh said the other day that there is an element to this that no one in the media can bring up without being fired, including himself. I wonder if that was the homosexual element.

You are correct. Their power in the media is immense. Now you know why people like Beck and Hannity and even Rush kow-tow to them. The ones that don't, like Dr. Laura, are destroyed.
45 posted on 11/13/2011 9:01:41 PM PST by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: badpacifist

Paterno knew in 1998.


46 posted on 11/13/2011 9:03:45 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Colofornian

BS. You have your own agenda.

What you see from Penn State students and Alumni is trying to process the info and deal with FACTUAL info, not the info you want to present and not the info the media wants to present.

You can hate Penn State and Paterno all you want but those of us who are Alumni or students on here ain’t buying it. We ain’t buying the media spin either.

I bleed blue and white. Deal with it. I ain’t a Paterno worshipper. If it comes out he was involved, I will be shocked and surprised.

I cheer for Penn State and I freakin love football, college football. I’m a Steelers fan too. And I grew up in philly not pittsburgh.

You have an agenda. I ain’t buying into it.


47 posted on 11/13/2011 9:04:18 PM PST by Twink
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To: Twink

I don’t understand it from the janitors to McQueary to Paterno to Curly to Shultz to Spanier to Dr. McQueary, and who-the-heck-who-know-who-else is out there.

There’s plenty blame to go around...including Paterno.

I’m sickened by the lack of urgency surrounding a brutal rape.

McQueary did what he did. That was bad enough.
One day passes and he goes to Joepa. JOEPA!!! We recognized and loved him for his upstanding wholesome morals as well as his coaching legend.
It’s only one day later....they can still find the kid. They can recognize the importance of getting to him AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
Sure...JoePa tells Curly....after waiting yet another day.
Why was there no curiosity on his part beyond that?

He sits on it all evening? He goes to bed, manages to fall asleep, and calls Curly 2 days after the brutal rape.

No one ever said you “only” have to call the AD.
You can call the cops AND the AD...you’re JoePa - you can do whatever the heck you want.

They are ALL responsible.


48 posted on 11/13/2011 9:07:48 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

>> “They are ALL responsible.” <<

.
Yes, and they all should spend the rest of their days in solitary lockup.


49 posted on 11/13/2011 9:10:44 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: sten
"we can call it the Penn Porn state lesson"

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50 posted on 11/13/2011 9:14:02 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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