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Re: The GOP elite pushing Romney - they don't call them stupid party for nothing!!
Ref: Romney in his own words - a compilation of a dozen or more Romney clips ^ | Nov 14, 2011 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/14/2011 10:54:18 AM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: sodpoodle

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Imagine that.


51 posted on 11/14/2011 12:07:57 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: justsaynomore; sodpoodle

What I was looking for was a speech he gave in York, PA last year.
He said we were ‘evolving’ into the ‘miltitant wing’ of the GOP. I wondered at the time if that was comparable to ‘the taliban wing’ of the Republican Party.


52 posted on 11/14/2011 12:14:35 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: jpsb

Yeah? Well, next to mittney, he’s ALSO the most DEVIOUS man in the room.


53 posted on 11/14/2011 12:19:10 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Psalm 144
Bad priorities my friend. One day your mother will be gone, and you will wish with all your heart you could speak with her, and you won’t be able to. If this is all that is between you, resume contact and agree to disagree on this point. Someone like that suet pudding “The Arsonist” is not worth breaking family ties over.

A wise observation; the person's mother probably didn't know anything about the book, just saw it is by Rove and about politics.

54 posted on 11/14/2011 12:24:58 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: justsaynomore

Thanks - a little choppy but I’ll do more research.

I realize Newt has taken unpopular positions in the past - and sometimes his speeches take ‘on the one hand and on the other hand’ perspectives. Overall, I believe he would pursue a Constitutional agenda as POTUS. As VP - he would be a huge asset for the Big Cainhuna;)


55 posted on 11/14/2011 12:25:14 PM PST by sodpoodle (Cain/Gingrich - a twofer I can go for.)
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To: sodpoodle

Well, here is what I have compiled from other FReepers and other sources:

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Conservatives Laugh Off Gingrich Presidential Dreams

http://washingtonindependent.com/65261/conservatives-laugh-off-gingrich-presidential-dreams

Newt Gingrich a wolf in sheep’s clothing

http://teapartyorg.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=4301673%3ABlogPost%3A29891&commentId=4301673%3AComment%3A498073&xg_source=activity

Left Wing of the GOP - Complete vetting of Newt Gingrich

https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=295749200447449

Stop the Insanity say no to Newt

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11-10/politics/30381368_1_newt-gingrich-conservatives-herman-cain

Newt for 2012? No, thanks.

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/26/newt-for-2012-no-thanks/

AMNESTY

Gingrich seeks middle path on immigration

http://totalbuzz.ocregister.com/2011/10/13/gingrich-seeks-middle-path-on-immigration/68253/

“GINGRICH: No, but let me say this, John. No serious citizen who’s concerned about solving this problem should get trapped into a yes/no answer in which you’re either for totally selling out protecting America or you’re for totally kicking out 20 million people in a heartless way. There are — there are humane, practical steps to solve this problem, if we can get the politicians and the news media to just deal with it honestly.”June 2011 Debate Transcript

BUDGET

Gingrich - supporting the individual mandate, calling Paul Ryan’s budget plan “radical”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65HJE6Qe8FM&feature=share...video

NEWT: ERA OF REAGAN IS OVER

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2008/01/14/the_era_of_reagan_is_not_over

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=hwDFNummwNo

CONSTITUTION

“In 1994, Newt Gingrich described himself as a... fan of the ideas espoused in the book, The Third Wave by Alvin Toffler, in which homosexuality, promiscuity, adultery, divorce, and abortion are all viewed as perfectly normal and even desirable. He said that in order to understand him, you should read the book, The Third Wave by Toffler. This book is written from the perspective of someone who is writing a letter to America’s Founding Fathers, in which he describes the Constitution and the principles of limited government that guided our Founding Fathers as becoming increasing irrelevant, and obsolete, and hence in need of being radically redesigned and replaced!....When Newt Gingrich became the Speaker of the House in 1994, he recommended The Third Wave as required reading for all of his Congressional colleagues!”

http://www.newsavanna.com/meanderings/me201/me20101.html

GLOBALISM

Newt Gingrich supported GATT, NAFTA and WTO while in Congress.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2661574/posts

Mr. Toffler encourages the DEATH of the American Constitutional system. Mr Gingrich who wrote the forward in Toffler book “Creating A New Civilization” obviously agrees.

http://www.google.com/search?q=gingrich+Alvin+toffler+Book+forward&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=

HEALTHCARE

Newt supported an individual mandate in health insurance

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/a-lot-of-republicans-supported-the-individual-mandate/2011/05/09/AFi26Z0G_blog.html#

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/gingrich-health-care-insurance/2011/05/15/id/396426

Reminder: Newt Gingrich Teamed Up With Hillary Clinton, Wanted Government MANDATED Health Care

http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/reminder-newt-gingrich-teamed-up-with-hillary-clinton-wanted-government-mandated-health-care/

Howard Dean Endorses Newt

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-07-25/politics/gingrich.dean_1_newt-gingrich-gingrich-candidacy-howard-dean?_s=PM:POLITICS

Newt with his BFFS Princess Pelosi, Kerry and Al Sharpton

http://www.mofopolitics.com/2011/11/09/friendly-reminder-newt-gingrich-is-a-rino-wimp-and-a-scumbag/

Newt loves HC mandates always has

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2011/05/13/newt-gingrich-long-time-supporter-of-health-insurance-mandates/3/

FOR/AGAINST ENTITLEMENT REFORM?

The one who says he is been for Entitlement Reform for 15 years?

http://news.yahoo.com/newt-gingrich-wants-entitlement-reforms-did-15-years-223600741.html

or the Newt who called the exact same plan when Paul Ryan purposed it “Right wing social engineering”

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/newt-gingrich-was-for-the-ryan-plan-before-he-was-against-it/

FANNIE MAE/FREDDIE MAC

Was paid $300,000 to lobby for Freddie Mae and Fannie Mach in 2006

http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/flashback-newt-took-300000-from-freddie-mac-to-stop-congress-from-making-much-needed-reform/

Endorsed by Barney Frank

http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/12/jon-huntsman-then-newt-gingrich-rep-barney-franks-favorite-gop-hopefuls/

FAIRNESS DOCTRINE

Newt Gingrich Co-Sponsored the 1987 Pro-Fairness Doctrine Bill

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/29/newt-gingrich-co-sponsored-the-1987-pro-fairness-doctrine-bill/

FOR/AGAINST WATERBOARDING?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Newt_Gingrich#Torture

GLOBAL WARMING/CAP and TRADE

Newt: Too Green for 2012

http://www.themoralliberal.com/2011/01/27/newt-too-green-for-2012/

1989: Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-GA) co-sponsors the ambitious Global Warming Prevention Act (H.R. 1078), which finds that “the Earth’s atmosphere is being changed at an unprecedented rate by pollutants resulting from human activities, inefficient and wasteful fossil fuel use, and the effects of rapid population growth in many regions,” that “global warming imperils human health and well-being” and calls for policies “to reduce world emissions of carbon dioxide by at least 20 percent from 1988 levels by 2000.” The legislation recognizes that global warming is a “major threat to political stability, international security, and economic prosperity.” [H.R. 1078, 2/22/1989]

1992: Gingrich calls the environmental proposals in Al Gore’s book Earth in Balance “devastatingly threatening to most American pocketbooks and jobs.” [National Journal, 9/5/92]

1996: At a speech for the Detroit Economic Club, Gingrich mocks “Al Gore’s global warming,” citing “the largest snowstorm in New York City’s history”: “We were in the middle of budget negotiations; the football games were coming up and we noticed on the weather channel that an early symptom of Al Gore’s global warming was coming to the East Coast. And it does make you wonder sometimes, doesn’t it, how theoretical statisticians in the middle of the largest snowstorm in New York City’s history could stand there and say, ‘I don’t care what it’s doing. It’s going to get very hot soon.’” [FDCH Political Transcripts, 1/16/96]

1997: As Speaker of the House, Gingrich co-sponsors H. Con. Res. 151, which notes carbon dioxide is a “major greenhouse gas” that comes from “products whose manufacture consumes fossil fuels” and calls on the United States to “manage its public domain national forests to maximize the reduction of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.” [H. Con. Res. 151, 9/10/1997]

2007: Gingrich calls for a cap-and-trade system with tax incentives for clean energy. “I think if you have mandatory carbon caps combined with a trading system, much like we did with sulfur, and if you have a tax-incentive program for investing in the solutions, that there’s a package there that’s very, very good. And frankly, it’s something I would strongly support.” [Frontline, 2/15/07]

February 15, 2007: “I think if you have mandatory carbon caps combined with a trading system, much like we did with sulfur, and if you have a tax-incentive program for investing in the solutions, that there’s a package there that’s very, very good. And frankly, it’s something I would strongly support.” [Frontline, 2/15/07]

In a debate on climate policy with Sen. John Kerry (D-MA), Gingrich says “the evidence is sufficient that we should move towards the most effective possible steps to reduce carbon-loading of the atmosphere,” and that we should “do it urgently.” [ThinkProgress, 4/10/07]

In a Washington Post chat, Gingrich rejects a cap-and-trade system, saying it “would lead to corruption, political favoritism, and would have a huge impact on the economy.” He says he supports “tax credits for dramatically reducing carbon emissions.” [Washington Post, 4/17/08]

2008: In an advertisement made for Al Gore’s Alliance for Climate Protection, Gingrich sat with Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and said that “we do agree our country must take action to address climate change.” [We Campaign, 4/18/08]

“I don’t think that we have conclusive proof of global warming. And I don’t think we have conclusive proof that humans are at the center of it.” [Newt.org, 4/22/08]

April 4, 2009: “And now, in 2009, instead of making energy cheaper—which would help create jobs and save Americans money—President Obama wants to impose a cap-and-trade regime. Such a plan would have the effect of an across-the-board energy tax on every American. That will make our artificial energy crisis even worse—and raising taxes during a deep economic recession will only accelerate American job losses.” [Newsweek, 4/4/09]

Pell grant for K-12 schools - Gingrich thinks more Federal government involvement in schools is a good thing.

SCOZZAFAVA

Gingrich supports radical leftist Dede Scozzafava (whom he champions as a “moderate Republican”) is getting heated pushback from Dallas Tea Party activists raising their voices at Borders Books in Dallas.

Here Gingrich snarks that conservatives who object to backing radical leftists don’t think Reagan was conservative enough:

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/23/dallas-tea-party-activists-push-back-against-gingrichs-straw-men/


56 posted on 11/14/2011 12:26:31 PM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: Psalm 144; Lazlo in PA

I should have mentioned that my last post was a joke. My bad.

Actually, my mother wouldn’t be caught dead buying Tokyo Rove’s book. She’s a leftist Democrat who’d be occupying Wall Street if she were in better health. She spends her days on the Daily Kos and Alternet, I believe.

My mom and I get along great, as long as we don’t discuss politics. We do give each other gag gifts, however. Last Christmas (”yuletide” in my mom’s native tongue) I got a subscription to the International Socialist Review. She got a copy of Jonah Goldberg’s Liberal Fascism from me.

Sorry for any confusion.


57 posted on 11/14/2011 12:28:28 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: sodpoodle

Newton Gingrich could “win” the debates with Obama but still be declared the loser because he speaks above the level of simple platitutdes that the sheeple can comprehend.


58 posted on 11/14/2011 12:29:42 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Ah! Much relieved. I had a cousin actually do that with his mother. It was sad for both of them.


59 posted on 11/14/2011 12:30:32 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Ok, she probably just thought she was buying you a book you would like even if she didn’t. And it’s hard to come up with gift ideas for people who have so much.


60 posted on 11/14/2011 12:31:07 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Jim Robinson

Do you see Mass-Mitt, or ANY of these so called candidates, screaming to order Beltway-RICO-Vampire-Care EXEMPTIONS to EVERYONE, their first day in office, not to just a DISCRIMINATE SELECT.


61 posted on 11/14/2011 12:34:10 PM PST by Varsity Flight
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To: GourmetDan

> The sole purpose of the Republican Party is to serve as an
> ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.

Precisely. They each play good-cop, bad-cop to each other’s base.


62 posted on 11/14/2011 12:37:35 PM PST by Westbrook
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To: Psalm 144

That is a shame. That should never happen.


63 posted on 11/14/2011 12:38:38 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama
She’s a leftist Democrat who’d be occupying Wall Street if she were in better health.

Holidays must suck for you. The only Rats in the whole family are my wife's grandparents. They are old school Rats and didn't vote for Obummer so they are tolerable and provide an excellent punching bag during Christmas dinner for the rest of us.

64 posted on 11/14/2011 12:39:17 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Theodore R.

No, no. I was joking. Please see #57.


65 posted on 11/14/2011 12:39:53 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

They’re a horror show. We have my mom the community organizer, my cousin the Paultard, and my uncles who think FDR is still alive and fighting the Nazis.

If it weren’t for alcohol, I dunno how I’d make it through. It’s one thing to be called a fascist by some random lib online. It’s quite another to be called a fascist by your own family.....

Nonetheless, they’re my family, and goofy or not, I still love them anyway.


66 posted on 11/14/2011 12:54:16 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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67 posted on 11/14/2011 12:56:38 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: justsaynomore
I like Newt and know that he can fall into RINO mode and he's let us down many times in the past, but he's a trillion times better than the Marxist and Romney. TEA Party he ain't.

MR. SPEAKER TALKS ABOUT SARAH PALIN:
Title: Newt Gingrich asked about Palin's Experience. Checkmate

68 posted on 11/14/2011 1:10:15 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: onyx

I did too, until I started taking a closer look at things (at my husband’s insistence)

Yes, he’s better than Romney, but not tons better.

I would hate to see people ditch the conservative in the race just because Newt is a good debater.


69 posted on 11/14/2011 1:16:46 PM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: justsaynomore

I don’t have to rely on articles from pundits. I recall Newt’s past and his Speakership. He was the DNC-demonic-rat’s first run at a smear machine take-down and they were successful. He beat all but one of the eight-nine “ethics” charges launched against him, and who can ever forget the magazine cover “The Gingrich that Stold Christmas” that hit the news stands “before” Christams?

He’s all too often been too smart for his own good and particularly ours. He’s been lost since he’s been out of office. Writing books, “thinking”, making speeches and finally, putting together a pretty solid plan for the future and a run at the White House.

I’m not going to deal in past actions or short-comings with any of our viable candidates, save for Romney, who’s no different from the Marxist.

The lamestream has already enjoyed a lot of success shredding Herman Cain’s reputation and tearing down Michele Bachmann as some sort of wild-eyed right-wing extremist, blinded by migraine headaches, unable to make proper decisions, when in fact, she’s a rock solid conservative.

Governor Perry hurt himself by himself for the most part and now he’s thought of as dumb, which he’s not.

Pretty soon, we’ll have nobody left but Romney, and I’m not falling for THAT.

Watch Greta’s interview tonight and pray that does a lot of GOOD.


70 posted on 11/14/2011 1:36:33 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: onyx

I remember from previous posts of yours that you like him. There is a reason that he polls so low in Georgia - we know him.

In any case, I trust Bachmann, Santorum, even Perry, before Newt at this point.

To each his own.


71 posted on 11/14/2011 1:46:21 PM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

I’m glad you were only joking. I lost my mother a month ago, and thank God I’d matured enough to appreciate all her good qualities and deep love for me, rather than our differences (which I used to argue when I was young and rebellious). I miss her so much.

Sounds like you’ve also learned just to avoid subjects like politics, but I hear the humor in your writing so it sounds like you two have a great relationship.

Moms are precious and you only get one, so enjoy her as often as possible.


72 posted on 11/14/2011 9:16:55 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: Westbrook

As they say, if the boot is on your neck, does it matter whether its a right boot or a left boot?


73 posted on 11/15/2011 4:12:35 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Jim Robinson; All

Like I’ve said before, many months ago...

I feel like we are once again going to get McCain’d in the GOP nomination...

This is it, this is the last election cycle I feel that I can honestly call myself a Republican...I affiliated years ago because it was the party that identified with MY personal conservative beliefs, more than the opposition...It was that simple back then...

I’m concerned that most would consider me an “establishment” player in the party because of my elected position...What I hung on the end of my name in official capacity used to mean something up to the 2008 elections...And I did everything I could from within the party to effect a change in mindset on issues candidates and incumbent officials held on issues we (grassroots worked so hard to get into the state platforms for canditates and the same to utilize in their campaigns and when they made it to office...

It, unfortunately, has not been all that successful...

I’m not going to hash out those issues again...This is not the forum, and time to do so...

But I will say that if the grassroots, comprised of everyday citizens of this country, like the Tea Party folks, and other conservative individuals and groups, have made their case very well, and the Establishment in the Republican PArty leadership have continued to ignore and placate the base in such a manner since 2004, I’m convinced that this is the last time conservatives are going to put up with that leadership placation and reject the Republican Party outright...

I wish I could see a light at the end of this tunnel, but I feel like some additional lengths of pipe are being put on the end of this thing and our own party is helping with the constructions...

Just my opinion...


74 posted on 11/15/2011 5:10:50 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: llandres

“Sounds like you’ve also learned just to avoid subjects like politics, but I hear the humor in your writing so it sounds like you two have a great relationship.”

We do. The gag gifts have been a running joke for years. I’m hoping to get a Guy Fawkes mask and a Che t-shirt this year. Mom is getting Mark Levin’s new book and perhaps a stylish Herman Cain T.

:)


75 posted on 11/15/2011 8:24:37 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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