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Jerry Brown will request billions for high-speed rail project (Anticipated cost now triple!!)
Hotair ^ | 11/14/2011 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 11/14/2011 12:22:24 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
Jerry's ride to nowhere......
21 posted on 11/14/2011 1:11:13 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, just because they don’t have the money to build it and there’s no logical reason to build it doesn’t mean that some Democrats couldn’t make money off this project. Democrats - they don’t really care if they accomplish anything so long as the taxpayer money keeps going into their pockets.


22 posted on 11/14/2011 1:17:55 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SeekAndFind

High speed rail systems are a Marxist social corral system, to force the collective into the state-ordered societies....controlled by central government edict.

Government in the US has been made from individualism and private property—the freedom to go where ever they wanted—when they wanted. This freedom created individuals who bucked collective societies and all efforts of govt. to control their lives and telling them where they could live and what they are allowed to do.

These systems are going to determine where the masses can live and what areas they are allowed to enter (and when). Government it buying up all lands that will be off limits to the masses....agenda 21. The elites will control all aspects of the ignorant masses in the US if we allow these to be built. They are only for mass control of population in a slave society.


23 posted on 11/14/2011 1:23:33 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: onyx; NormsRevenge; calcowgirl; Dog Gone; SierraWasp; sasquatch; forester
He’s an idiot, just like the idiots that voted for him [again].

No he's not. He knows who he MUST pay off or else, and it's not just the unions (Buffet, Kiewitt, Times/Mirror, SPX, Kaufmann & Broad). Speaking of which...

This is for those of you who have been following the Bay Bridge debacle.

Just think: Do a crappy job for cheap, pay off a State inspector to fake his report, blame the union, get a follow on contract to "fix the problem."

What's not to like? Betcha the "high speed fail" project goes just the same way!

24 posted on 11/14/2011 1:32:16 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser: Fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: roadcat
Actually they, the railroad people were stealing land, not building a railroad. They were given millions of acres along the rail line. One of the biggest scams ever.
25 posted on 11/14/2011 1:33:55 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Wiles, the Sandusky of bridge construction inspectors. How many knew of his shortcomings and for how long did they know it?


26 posted on 11/14/2011 2:24:52 PM PST by NonValueAdded (At 4 AM, it is a test; at 2 PM, it is a demonstration)
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To: NonValueAdded
Wiles, the Sandusky of bridge construction inspectors.

LOL You get what you pay for.

27 posted on 11/14/2011 2:28:51 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser: Fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: BitWielder1
...high-speed rail should not be built in earthquake zones.

Was thinking the same.

But, imagine what the remake of the movie "Eathquake" would be like with bullet trains this time as the stars.
28 posted on 11/14/2011 3:21:04 PM PST by adorno (<)
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To: count-your-change
How will California ever achieve greatness without a high speed rail?

California did achieve greatness, once upon a time, without high speed rail. Those days and the greatness are over.

29 posted on 11/14/2011 3:29:44 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: SeekAndFind

Boston’s “Big Dig” direct construction costs came in at 7 times it’s original projected cost of around 2 billion dollars and with the bond financing costs added in will come in at around 10 times it’s projected cost.

I would apply those factors to the projected costs of the California HSR project. Should it ever get built, the cost will be somewhere between 300 to 400 billion dollars for a system that will carry very few people at enormous operating cost/losses and will ultimately be abandoned.


30 posted on 11/14/2011 3:39:32 PM PST by KamperKen
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To: NewHampshireDuo

Well there ya go. Had California a high speed rail their decline never would’ve happened. The air would be clean and sweet, housing prices low, high paying jobs abundant and children would respect their parents.

Can anyone set a price on that?


31 posted on 11/14/2011 4:57:12 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: org.whodat
One of the biggest scams ever.

That's the point I was trying to make! That everything the railroad bosses were doing in order to build the transcontinental railroad was fraudulent. They fleeced investors, the government, land-owners and customers. The four railroad tycoons who built the western segment from Utah to California made billions. Leland Stanford is one, left Stanford University as a legacy to his son's name, built with scam money. When they got the free land, they enticed people back east to move here by promoting infrastructure that didn't exist, sold them land and high-priced tickets to get there, and upon arrival the people found empty land.

Anytime there is talk of building a huge rail project, look for the public getting ripped off bigtime. This new high-speed rail is unnecessary except for the few who want to scam the taxpayers.

32 posted on 11/14/2011 6:28:44 PM PST by roadcat
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