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Witness: Cain Accuser Reported 'Inappropriate' Touching (Bialek's Ex-Boyfriend Speaks Publicly)
ABC News ^ | 11/14/2011 | RANDY KREIDER

Posted on 11/14/2011 12:44:32 PM PST by SeekAndFind

A doctor who once dated Herman Cain accuser Sharon Bialek came forward today to say that he remembered Bialek telling him in 1997 that Cain had "touched her in an inappropriate manner," and that he was the one who urged her to contact lawyer Gloria Allred and go public with her accusation.

Dr. Victor Zuckerman of Shreveport, Louisiana, who appeared at a Monday afternoon press conference with attorney Gloria Allred, said he had decided to go public himself in order to rebut Herman Cain's public statement that he had no idea who Sharon Bialek was and couldn't recall ever meeting her. "I'm here to shed light on whether or not Herman Cain knows Sharon Bialek."

Four different women have accused the Republican presidential frontrunner of sexually harassing them while they worked at the National Restaurant Association. Karen Kraushaar and a second woman filed internal complaints with the trade group and received financial settlements. A third woman told the Associated Press she had considered filing a complaint against Cain but decided against because a coworker had already filed.

Cain has categorically denied all allegations of sexual harassment.

Bialek became the fourth accuser, and the first to go public, with a New York press conference on Nov. 7. She alleges Cain put his hand up her skirt, reached for her genitals and pulled her head toward his crotch. Bialek claims that when she resisted, he said, "You want a job, don't you?"

At the press conference, Gloria Allred flourished signed statements from two different men to whom Bialek had allegedly reported Cain's "inappropriate behavior" at the time. One of the men was described as a longtime friend and Chicago businessman, the other as a pediatrician Bialek was dating.

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KEYWORDS: cain; gloriaallred; hermancain; sharonbialek
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1 posted on 11/14/2011 12:44:34 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2807282/posts

You mean this guy with the Court Document history of fraud to support his gambling habit?

Leave it to Freepers to do more real journalism then the paid hacks in the MSM

2 posted on 11/14/2011 12:46:44 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: SeekAndFind
A doctor who once dated Herman Cain accuser Sharon Bialek came forward today to say that he remembered Bialek telling him.....

Well there ya have it, clear proof. LOL
3 posted on 11/14/2011 12:47:16 PM PST by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Big Media will eventually connect Cain to Kevin Bacon, who heard that Cain {insert appropriate horrific act here}.


4 posted on 11/14/2011 12:47:45 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not a credible witness.


5 posted on 11/14/2011 12:47:54 PM PST by griswold3 (Character is Destiny)
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To: SeekAndFind
Ex boyfriend or co-conspirator?

Doesn't matter what he says, he's not really a witness.

6 posted on 11/14/2011 12:48:03 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: SeekAndFind
Let me guess. They also produced Dr. Zuckerman's best buddy from college who remembers Dr. Zuckerman talking about what he heard.

And then, for the coup de grace, they also produced the college buddy's wife's hairdresser - who distinctly remembers the college wife's buddy telling her about what her husband's friend's girlfriend had said about Herman Cain.

7 posted on 11/14/2011 12:48:31 PM PST by wideawake
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To: SeekAndFind

>>> ... he was the one who urged her to contact lawyer Gloria Allred and go public with her accusation.

Funny, how this didn’t matter in 1997 and since.

Only now when Cain is ‘leading’ in multiple polls, then we have bugs coming out of the woodwork everywhere ......


8 posted on 11/14/2011 12:49:03 PM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: fatnotlazy

I believe it’s called hearsay.


9 posted on 11/14/2011 12:49:09 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: SeekAndFind

This stuff just isn’t going to go away. It’s plastered everywhere, and the average voter isn’t going to endeavor to discern the truth for themselves. They’ll listen to whoever stands up to the microphone.

His campaign has got to find a way to put this junk to rest once and for all or he’ll never get back on message.

Grrrr


10 posted on 11/14/2011 12:49:15 PM PST by Solaia (Ladies and gentlemen take my advice: pull down your pants and slide on the ice.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So she called her old boyfrind from 14 years ago who urged her to contact Gloria? I wonder how her new boyfriend took that? This story has more holes in it than ny husband’s socks!


11 posted on 11/14/2011 12:51:12 PM PST by marstegreg
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To: Solaia
His campaign has got to find a way to put this junk to rest once and for all or he’ll never get back on message.

No, all he has to do is say "prove it" and ignore further questions.
12 posted on 11/14/2011 12:51:29 PM PST by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: SeekAndFind

By interjecting multiple layers of hearsay, Gloryhole Allred hopes to avoid getting caught in defamation litigation.
Slick, getting a liar to lie about lies to avoid intent issues. I bet Slick Willie wishes he could have had one of his buddies testify about what he had told him and could have thereby avoided that nasty perjury citation and disbarment.


13 posted on 11/14/2011 12:51:50 PM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Solaia

Even if it’s entirely clear this harassment bullshit is nonsense the media will still report “lingering doubts”. It will never go away. Cain just has to move on and stay on message. They will never let it go. They’re tools of the political establishment.


14 posted on 11/14/2011 12:52:16 PM PST by bigdirty
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To: SeekAndFind

When asked if Gloria would now release the previously signed affidavit, she balked and said Dr. Zuckerman’s appearance today was better than the affidavit.


15 posted on 11/14/2011 12:52:37 PM PST by greatvikingone
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To: griswold3
Not a credible witness.

Not a "witness" at all, at any level.

As another FReeper noted in a similar thread, Allred (at the behest of those paying her) is targeting the wide swath of idiots in the American electorate. A rumor is all that is needed.

16 posted on 11/14/2011 12:53:19 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: cripplecreek

We should wait for Rove to declare “now that a DOCTOR speaks, which gives credit to the harrassment suit’.


17 posted on 11/14/2011 12:53:52 PM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: cripplecreek

His campaign has got to find a way to put this junk to rest once and for all or he’ll never get back on message.

“No, all he has to do is say “prove it” and ignore further questions.”

:) well, that would be a way to do it!


18 posted on 11/14/2011 12:54:02 PM PST by Solaia (Ladies and gentlemen take my advice: pull down your pants and slide on the ice.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s using the exact same words as the Sandusky scandal.


19 posted on 11/14/2011 12:54:11 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: MNJohnnie; SeekAndFind; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; ...
Another winner surfaces against Cain.

Reference:

Victor Zuckerman, Bialek's "witness" and his fun lawsuit escapades

20 posted on 11/14/2011 12:54:14 PM PST by sickoflibs (Cain :"My parents didn't raise me to beg the government for other peoples money")
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To: SeekAndFind

He said she said she said.


21 posted on 11/14/2011 12:54:28 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: SeekAndFind

So this “doctor” held a press conference and said nothing new.
Weird.


22 posted on 11/14/2011 12:55:26 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: SeekAndFind

You’re nobody unless your girlfriend has been groped by Herman Cain, then you become a media darling.


23 posted on 11/14/2011 12:56:15 PM PST by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: griswold3

He is not a witness. All he heard was “hear say”.


24 posted on 11/14/2011 12:56:40 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: wideawake

Next they produced “Simone” from Ferris Bueller’s Day Off:

“My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with the girl who saw Herman hit on this girl at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it’s pretty serious.”


25 posted on 11/14/2011 12:56:43 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Flashing signed documents don’t include SHOWING them to someone who can READ them. Lying b*tch!

Hey, Victor, we are “here to shed light” on your sorry butt too. You don’t get a free pass because you are called a doctor and dated the golddigger.


26 posted on 11/14/2011 12:57:13 PM PST by kcvl
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To: SeekAndFind

Hearsay.

He didn’t witness what allegedly happened. He related only what his GF at the time told him allegedly happened.

Let’s move on.

Case dismissed for lack of evidence.


27 posted on 11/14/2011 12:57:28 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Solaia

I agree.
It’s time for his heavy-duty lawyer to start administering some legal-type “black eyes” (such as a slander/libel suit), to discourage this sort of thing.


28 posted on 11/14/2011 12:57:28 PM PST by kidd
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To: SeekAndFind

listening to this dopey doctor, he’s obviously smitted with “Gloria”...


29 posted on 11/14/2011 12:57:40 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Solaia
His campaign has got to find a way to put this junk to rest once and for all or he’ll never get back on message.

There's no way to put it to rest because the mainstream media won't stop. When this ex-boyfriend goes away they'll come up with someone else. It won't end until they have Romney running against O.

Cain should stay on message and not let this distract him. They WANT to distract him.
30 posted on 11/14/2011 12:58:29 PM PST by Shannon
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To: goldstategop

But in the ‘Court of Public Opinion’ with a very stupid American public and a willing media, ‘Guilty as Charged.’


31 posted on 11/14/2011 12:58:40 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Second-hand verbal accounts are not worth the paper they are written on.

Hearsay and gossip are not reliable sources of hard fact. The hard fact here, is that ONLY while he was with the National Restaurant Association, and only with individuals in and around Chicago, were there EVER any allegations of such behavior. No other time, at anywhere Herman Cain ever served in any capacity, was there any such report.

This was a conspiracy, coached from the beginning, with those who resented how Herman Cain had spanked Bill Clinton on the earlier version of single-payer government health insurance known as “Hillarycare” back in the early 1990’s. The klepto-Democrats learned nothing and forgot nothing.


32 posted on 11/14/2011 12:59:06 PM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: sickoflibs

He says in his statement that he’s never had a malpractice suit or any legal action against him, he -— yada yada -— says that he once had a thriving medical practice in Bloomingdale IL but due to the crashing stock market and all kinds of other jazz, that he’s had to file Chapter 11 bankruptcy.


33 posted on 11/14/2011 1:00:13 PM PST by bigbob
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To: SeekAndFind

Tomorrow, she’s bringing forward another “witness”: A guy who has an uncle that knows someone who works with a guy whose cousin dated a girl who lives down the street from someone who said that Herman Cain once told a dirty joke in front of her.


34 posted on 11/14/2011 1:00:52 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: SeekAndFind

So says a man known to have gambling problems who commits fraud to try and cover them.

Very believable kind of guy...NOT!

This Gloria Allred is a sheister, plain and simple...and anyone who takes a small amount of time to look into her and the people she brings forward as “witnesses” knows it.


35 posted on 11/14/2011 1:01:05 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: dfwgator

“But in the ‘Court of Public Opinion’ with a very stupid American public and a willing media, ‘Guilty as Charged.’”

Exactly! If he ignores it, it’s because he’s guilty. He’s got to end it. Being distracted doesn’t work. Ignoring it won’t work.


36 posted on 11/14/2011 1:01:09 PM PST by Solaia (Ladies and gentlemen take my advice: pull down your pants and slide on the ice.)
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To: Steamburg

“Gloryhole Allred”

Now that’s funny right there. I don’t care who you are. (And suits her to a “T”.)

I would call Gloria Allred a “sack of sh!t” but that would be an insult “sacks-of-sh!t”.

Ernie


37 posted on 11/14/2011 1:01:45 PM PST by Ernie Kaputnik ((It's a mad, mad, mad world.))
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To: Solaia

These people need to be sued into oblivion.


38 posted on 11/14/2011 1:02:01 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: kcvl

I looked very closely at Allred’s documents several different times when she flashed them... they didn’t seem to have any letterheads... wouldn’t a sworn affidavit be rather official looking...? this stinks so much...


39 posted on 11/14/2011 1:02:08 PM PST by true believer forever (First, they came for the rich.)
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To: Solaia
"His campaign has got to find a way to put this junk to rest once and for all or he’ll never get back on message."

He can't. This is a planned, well orchestrated strategy on the left and it won't stop unless Cain's popularity rose after each attack. If Gingrich keeps rising in the polls, the same will happen to him - serial adulterer, served his wife on her death bed, etc. After these two, anyone else who might be a threat (except Romney) will get the smear treatment; because it works. Romney will stay clean until the general election if he is chosen. Then we will get endless articles about the evils of Mormonism and Mormons' bloody past, etc. This is modern politics in America.

40 posted on 11/14/2011 1:02:16 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Shannon

You can’t prove a negative. The MSM is never going to let this go.

Its not the facts that matter, its the seriousness of the charge.

Never mind, it allegedly happened more than 15 years ago.

Like the liberals like to say, nothing to see here and its time to move on.


41 posted on 11/14/2011 1:03:07 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

Instead of “He said/She said”, this is “He said she said.”


42 posted on 11/14/2011 1:03:12 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: SeekAndFind

The only thing that is clear is that this guy only owns one sport coat.


43 posted on 11/14/2011 1:03:17 PM PST by Raebie (WS)
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To: SeekAndFind

When broke accuse Cain, the new slogan of the shyster

http://il.findacase.com/research/wfrmDocViewer.aspx/xq/fac.20110324_0000757.NIL.htm/qx


44 posted on 11/14/2011 1:03:25 PM PST by Fred (no job no house no gas no food no problem Obama 2012)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can Someone Explain Gloria Allred To Me?

Gloria Allred is a founding partner of an employment law firm in California. But the cases she is known for being involved in – O.J. Simpson, Michael Jackson, Scott Peterson, Robert Blake – aren’t employment cases.

So why does Gloria Allred always seem to pop up in these national, high-profile cases? Sometimes she represents a witness, or the family of a victim. Sometimes she just enters the spotlight as a commentator – such as when she publicly expressed concern about the safety of Michael Jackson’s children. Other times it’s just strange like when she’s hanging out with the mistresses of Tiger Woods.

I was thinking about this last week when the Chicago woman spoke out and claimed she was sexually harassed by Herman Cain. Gloria Allred was standing next to her. There was no lawsuit, and they weren’t in L.A. For some reason she took the press conference to New York City (where it was hilariously hijacked by the Howard Stern Show). So what was Allred doing there? It just doesn’t make sense for a Chicago woman to hire a high profile L.A. attorney.

More...

http://www.chicagonow.com/chicagos-real-law-blog/2011/11/can-someone-explain-gloria-allred-to-me/

I think I can shed light on ‘WHY’...it’s called N O W (National Organization of Women) flaks where Gloria is a political HACK! Abortion is their religion!

******

http://media.kansas.com/smedia/2009/06/06/13/836-060609funeral_fs10.slideshow_main.prod_affiliate.80.jpg

Los Angeles lawyer Gloria Allred addresses a group of National Organization for Women supporters after the service for Dr. George Tiller Saturday. “This was not only an assault on George Tiller but an assault on all women of America and their daughters,” she said.

http://www.kansas.com/2009/06/06/842168_a842261/services-for-dr-george-tiller.html#ixzz1diQ245om


45 posted on 11/14/2011 1:04:54 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Charles Martel
Allred (at the behest of those paying her) ...

Who is paying her? Somebody is parting with substantial dollars, euros, francs, marks, rubles or dinars.

Alleged journalists attention: Follow the money!!

46 posted on 11/14/2011 1:05:23 PM PST by Ole Okie (For Herman Cain.)
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To: SeekAndFind

From the article: “Four different women have accused the Republican presidential frontrunner of sexually harassing them while they worked at the National Restaurant Association. Karen Kraushaar and a second woman filed internal complaints with the trade group and received financial settlements. A third woman told the Associated Press she had considered filing a complaint against Cain but decided against because a coworker had already filed.”

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“4 women”; “3rd woman”; “2 NRA complaints and settlements”; etc.

This is where the rubber meets the road. Proof of “4”, “3”, and “2” is much, much more than repetitious propaganda from proven liars like MSM.

If true, Cain is toast and I’m sure he knows it. If not, I hope Cain and his attorney take MSM (and all who are behind it) to the cleaners.


47 posted on 11/14/2011 1:05:54 PM PST by Yooper4Life (They all lie.)
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To: Solaia

Ignore it. There’s no point in giving serial harrassers credibility.

What came out today added nothing new to what we heard last week. The Cain campaign should screen out the background noise.

Let the Left whine.


48 posted on 11/14/2011 1:06:04 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

“During the convention,” said Zuckerman, “Sharon indeed met and spent time with Mr. Cain. Mr Cain was the keynote speaker. Her job required that she be present at all functions. I remember Sharon saying that she and Mr. Cain had been at many of the same events. I also recall that at these events she was seated next to him at a lunch and at a dinner. She also told me she had the opportunity to speak with him at length with him in both cases.”

Uh wait. She stated that her boyfriend was with her at these events. It would appear that wasn’t the case based on his statement.


49 posted on 11/14/2011 1:06:17 PM PST by Raebie (WS)
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To: bigbob

Here are the media resposnes:

If Cain ignores accusations = “Cain needs to address these lingering issues and stop ignoring i!”

If Cain addresses each allegation = “Cain is letting this scandal take him off his message. He is unprepared and not ready for prime time.”

If Cain attacks the accusers = “Cain showing his temper, risks alienating women voters further who clearly don’t trust him.”

If Cain attacks the media = “Cain playing the victim card. Not ready for prime time and not looking presidential.”

If Cain’s lawyer gets involved = “Cain bullying people in silence. Will alienate women and independents further.”

Each response could easily be followed by VOTE ROMNEY PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD VOTE ROMNEY!

=D


50 posted on 11/14/2011 1:06:56 PM PST by bigdirty
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