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Jerry Sandusky and Gary Schultz Continue to Receive Generous Penn State Pensions
The Patriot-News ^ | Saturday, November 12, 2011 | Sara Ganim and Jan Murphy

Posted on 11/14/2011 3:20:46 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: Dr. Scarpetta
No guessing about it; you are. [At least for those employees who opted for SERS. At least two we know of opted for TIAA/CREF instead.]

And you are on the hook for significantly more than you used to be because: 1) Tom Ridge stopped the Commonwealth's contribution to the fund while governor, so the trust is significantly underfunded, even though the Commonwealth guarantees the trust by law, and 2) because the SERS administration lost over 25% of its assets in the Market Crash in 2008, and because 3) the administrators continue to pretend SERS is fully funded despite 1 and 2, and continue with a preposterous projection of 8% return on investments.

But note you ARE NOT on the hook because of Penn State. Despite the name, Penn State is not a state school, and outlays from the general fund do not finance Penn State pensions; there are no "Penn State" pensions. And not all PSU employees are part of SERS.

21 posted on 11/14/2011 5:06:31 PM PST by FredZarguna (McQueary, who watched what he testified was a rape in progress, and did nothing, is still coaching.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

See Post #19. He is mistaken.


22 posted on 11/14/2011 5:06:56 PM PST by FredZarguna (McQueary, who watched what he testified was a rape in progress, and did nothing, is still coaching.)
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To: FredZarguna

Penn State’s 2011-12 State Appropriation finalized on June 30 at $279 million...

Total Budget:
$4.1 billion

http://www.budget.psu.edu/BoTJuly/July%20Board%202011%20-%20FINAL.pdf


23 posted on 11/14/2011 5:36:55 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: FredZarguna

http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=593234&mode=2

I don’t see anything that would allow the stripping of his pension - specifically any sexual stuff.
The law is specific...


24 posted on 11/14/2011 5:38:24 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: FredZarguna

Nevertheless, the public has a right to now about this pension.


25 posted on 11/14/2011 6:53:47 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Hmm, I believe governor of IL lost his pension when he went to Prison...oh which governor (we have had numerous perps)? George Ryan.

Perhaps if convicted, the University can at the very least discontinue his pension as he committed crimes while employed.


26 posted on 11/14/2011 7:24:57 PM PST by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Jeff Head

If he had been caught beating a kid with a baseball bat, wonder if the janitor or assistant coach would have intervened.


27 posted on 11/14/2011 7:27:02 PM PST by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
So ... what?

This doesn't mean Penn State runs a pension system.

6.8% of budget also doesn't make Penn State a state university, whatever the name may say. Penn State is a private land grant. The governor gets exactly ONE vote on the Board of Trustees. He may even lose that if PSU decides it's not worth it for <7% of funding.

Several schools beside Penn State (Temple, Pitt) receive money from the Commonwealth. That doesn't make them state schools, either.

The Pennsylvania University system has nothing to do with the Penn State University System; it consists of Shippensburg, Lock Haven, Bloomsburg, Kutztown, East Stroudsburg, (maybe others which FReeper alums will make me aware of if I've missed them, I'm sure.) Those are the actual state universities in PA.

28 posted on 11/14/2011 8:33:10 PM PST by FredZarguna (McQueary, who watched what he testified was a rape in progress, and did nothing, is still coaching.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Yes, that's why I say it's ironic because under Act 140, Sandusky -- whom everyone seems to forget is orders of magnitude more guilty of crimes than anyone else if the allegations are true -- may not lose his pension, but Schultz very well might if he committed perjury in connection with a crime that occurred on university property.
29 posted on 11/14/2011 8:39:14 PM PST by FredZarguna (McQueary, who watched what he testified was a rape in progress, and did nothing, is still coaching.)
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To: nickcarraway
Why?

Does the public have a right to know what your retirement benefits are?

Penn State is not part of the government, despite what some people think. Penn State is a private land grant, far more similar to Cornell or Rutgers than a state university, the suggestive name to the contrary notwithstanding. Pennsylvania has a state university system. It is not associated in any way with Penn State.

Some years ago, the judiciary ruled that because some PSU employees participated in the State Employees Retirement System, the pensions of (some) PSU employees should be public. PSU employees who opted for TIAA/CREF were not affected by the ruling. I believe the judge erred in that determination.

But even if I accept your point, the public is not entitled to believe that Penn State is paying this pension. It isn't. It has no power whatsoever to affect this pension by even one penny. The amount paid out, and loss of benefits when applicable is determined completely by law.

This headline, and this story is -- like most of the stuff published at PennLive.com -- a load of crap. This web site is a front for the Patriot News. That newspaper is an apologist for every bad liberal idea that has been brought up or imported into Pennsylvania for the last sixty years. There is virtually no other story printed in that rag that any conservative would credit, but, because it satisfies the blood lust of the Paterno haters, it's suddenly credible on conservative blogs.

30 posted on 11/14/2011 8:53:19 PM PST by FredZarguna (McQueary, who watched what he testified was a rape in progress, and did nothing, is still coaching.)
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To: FredZarguna
Thank you. Too many are not thinking, but reacting. Sandusky has not been found guilty or sentenced YET. There is a process, it must be followed.

Too bad Sandusky went on national tv; he probably has tainted most of the jury pool.

31 posted on 11/14/2011 9:35:08 PM PST by mia
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