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McCain to GOP: ‘Waterboarding Is Torture’
National Journal ^ | Nov.14, 2011 | Shane Goldmacher

Posted on 11/14/2011 5:56:04 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

Sen. John McCain of Arizona, the 2008 Republican presidential standard-bearer, has taken pains to avoid weighing in on the 2012 GOP primary. But on Sunday, McCain said he was "very disappointed" that some Republicans defended waterboarding at Saturday’s National Journal/CBS debate in South Carolina.

“Waterboarding is torture,” McCain, who was a prisoner of war and tortured during the Vietnam War, said via Twitter.

On Saturday, Herman Cain and Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota both endorsed waterboarding as an interrogation technique. President Obama banned its use at the beginning of his term, calling it cruel and counterproductive.

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KEYWORDS: johnmccain; mccaintruthfile; torture; waterboarding
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1 posted on 11/14/2011 5:56:04 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I wonder where McCain stands on the assassination of US Citizens.


2 posted on 11/14/2011 5:57:28 PM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jet.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

McClown is a GOP torture.


3 posted on 11/14/2011 5:57:30 PM PST by IrishPennant (We don't want to work so we go to work to make enough money not to work...Huh?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Well, it’s official now. McCain has said waterboarding is torture. Now all discussion must be stopped on this hot topic. /sarcasm.


4 posted on 11/14/2011 5:58:06 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Having Juan above room temperature is torture.
5 posted on 11/14/2011 5:58:18 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The enemy of my enemy is my candidate.<sup>®</sup>)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Having to listen to McCain’s “wisdom” is torture. He’s only outshined in dumbness by his offspring.


6 posted on 11/14/2011 5:58:20 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Listening to you, John, is torture.


7 posted on 11/14/2011 5:58:43 PM PST by Kozy (Calling Al Gore)
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To: Gene Eric
I wonder where McCain stands on the assassination of US Citizens.

As long as they're not waterboarded /sarcasm.

8 posted on 11/14/2011 5:59:04 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: Gene Eric

You mean the U.S. citizens who were fighting for the other side in a war?


9 posted on 11/14/2011 5:59:14 PM PST by GAB-1955 (I write books, serve my country, love my wife and daughter, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Thanks again, Arizona.


10 posted on 11/14/2011 5:59:51 PM PST by TADSLOS (Lexicon Genetics- Rick Perry's Solyndra Moment)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Thank God we tortured sheik mohammed, otherwise some of these clowns that oppose waterboarding, would be dead.


11 posted on 11/14/2011 6:00:16 PM PST by biggredd1
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hey I know, lets nominate a RINO so McQueeg will be happy and think he has a shot if he just runs one more time.


12 posted on 11/14/2011 6:00:20 PM PST by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Disagree with him, but this is one time where I will give him a pass, only because of the 6 years of Hell he endured in the Hanoi Hilton.

Still, waterboarding is not torture. No pain other than the “psychological” fear of drowning is present, and since the terrorist should be smart enough to realize that US laws don’t allow us to drown him, there really isn’t anything involved other than minor discomfort.

Now listening to Nancy Pelosi read the audio version of her book “watching paint dry”, now that would be classified as torture.


13 posted on 11/14/2011 6:01:33 PM PST by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

First, thank you for your service. Second, shut up loser.


14 posted on 11/14/2011 6:01:56 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Waterboarding is “torture” the same way fingernails on a blackboard is “torture”, or the relentless din of blaring heavy-metal music aimed at an enemy holed up in a compound is “torture”.

No, “torture” is having your fingers lopped off one at a time with a pair of wire cutters. “Torture” is having bleach poured down your throat. “Torture” is having your kneecaps shot. “Torture” is having parts of your body blow-torched to black cinders and then ripped off with pliers. “Torture” is having a pair of tree-branch loppers applied to your genitals.

There are countless ways to inflict real torture, and part of the torture is the realization by the victim that his body will be forever damaged, forever missing pieces. Forever. Now THAT’s torture.

Being dowsed with water in the morning and then still being able to play shortstop for the terrorist softball team in the afternoon is NOT torture.


15 posted on 11/14/2011 6:02:16 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: paul51

McCain should do us all a favor and just endorse Obama.


16 posted on 11/14/2011 6:03:12 PM PST by bigdirty
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Twitter? I heard he couldn’t type from his war wounds. Not defending the king of the rinos, but......


17 posted on 11/14/2011 6:03:13 PM PST by mirkwood (The more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war.)
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To: IrishPennant

“McClown is a GOP torture”

LOL. Back to sucking up for media attention by bashing GOP. P*ss Off McCain.


18 posted on 11/14/2011 6:03:51 PM PST by No Socialist
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To: Gene Eric

This is the official stance of the US military that a young John McCain was taught. He is not an original thinker, he is an academy grad, he was a professional soldier. So it is not too surprising to me to hear him toe the company line rather than think about whether or not the company line was or is right.


19 posted on 11/14/2011 6:04:08 PM PST by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Our Spec Ops folk experience Water Boarding. What would John “Butt Munch” McCain call slowly sawing off the head of a prisoner?


20 posted on 11/14/2011 6:04:28 PM PST by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
McCain said he was "very disappointed" that some Republicans defended waterboarding

John McCain is a jacksss.

A January 2006 CIA Predator attack in the northern Pakistani village of Damadola, where U.S. intelligence believed al-Qaeda's deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, was meeting with a group of extremists. At least four al-Qaeda members were killed in the attack, but Zawahiri was not present, and 18 civilians—including five children—were reportedly killed, setting off angry demonstrations across Pakistan against the U.S. Senator John McCain (R-AZ) said: "It's terrible when innocent people are killed; we regret that. But we have to do what we think is necessary to take out al-Qaeda, particularly the top operatives."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Targeted_killing

21 posted on 11/14/2011 6:04:28 PM PST by South40 (To Tear Down Herman Cain is to aid Mitt Romney & the Marxist Kenyan)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’ll tell you what torture is - being in the position of having to vote for John McCain or accept an avowed socialist islamist sympathizer whose main goal seems to be the dismantling/transformation of America. That’s torture.


22 posted on 11/14/2011 6:05:04 PM PST by SuzyQue
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To: Free ThinkerNY

That should get him the full lineup of Sunday programs.

Pray for America


23 posted on 11/14/2011 6:06:50 PM PST by bray (Take the Cain Train off the Plantation)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

IMO, any combatant who flagrantly violates the Geneva Convention - terrorism, no uniforms, targeting civilians, hostages, etc. - has NO rights, human or otherwise. Therefore, anything you do to the creature is perfectly legal.

This is the attitude that will quash terrorism.


24 posted on 11/14/2011 6:08:24 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Can’t believe I voted for this putz.


25 posted on 11/14/2011 6:08:48 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I would say that any definition of torture would have to inlude acts that you would never consider doing voluntarily.

Our troops volunteer for water board training. - uncomfortable but not torture

Would you volunteer to have your fingernails torn off? No? torture.

Get the idea?


26 posted on 11/14/2011 6:09:15 PM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If it saves innocent American lives and/or prevents terrorism I don’t care if it is torchure.


27 posted on 11/14/2011 6:09:27 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Gene Eric
McCain was never waterboarded by his North VN friends. He doesn't know anything about waterboarding. He is blowing smoke through his hat, posing as a moral authority because he was tortured by other means, as if they are equivalent. They are not.

This is a good illustration of the dangerously misleading idea that a "victim" is somehow in a position to lecture people who are not victims. It is a bad idea. A very bad idea, and is pervasive among the practitioners of the western liberal whorehouse.

28 posted on 11/14/2011 6:11:03 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: parksstp
Not quite the psychological fear of drowning, but more like the esophageal reflex that keeps amniotic fluid out of developing lungs before we are born.

It is exceedingly painful but it works.

It's all natural, and you can be trained to deal with it effectively.

.The fear arises out of ignorance.

29 posted on 11/14/2011 6:12:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Conservatives to McCain...

Having to vote for McCain over Obama is torture.

Waterboarding would have been a walk in the park in comparison!


30 posted on 11/14/2011 6:14:20 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Hang in there Herman, conservatives love you!)
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To: martin_fierro
Good evening.

Can’t believe I voted for this putz.

You didn't. You voted for Sarah Palin.

8^)

5.56mm

31 posted on 11/14/2011 6:15:07 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: MC CAIN; All

No John...

Meghan is torture.


32 posted on 11/14/2011 6:15:19 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Water boarding, (Forced Neti Potting) MIGHT be “torture” under the commie liberals’ new definition of “torture” (Along with playing heavy metal music too loud, not allowing the terrorists to get at least 8 hours of sleep, denying the terrorists access to HBO and Showtime, etc.) but I still wish Juan McCain would just go the hell away. He’s too old for this sh*t and an embarassment to America. Somebody (Shemp Smith or Juan Williams?) said today that “waterboarding” is “unconstitutional”. Anybody know where I can find “waterboarding” in the U.S. Constitution? Only an uninformed, ignorant or very moronic “journalist” in Hawaii would think that “waterboarding” is “torture”.


33 posted on 11/14/2011 6:17:08 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If John had been waterboarded in Nam instead of the physical torture they used against him, he wouldn’t have permanent infirmaties today.


34 posted on 11/14/2011 6:18:49 PM PST by umgud
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To: Free ThinkerNY

You’re in the wrong party, Juan.

Listening to you and your pathetic daughter is torture.


35 posted on 11/14/2011 6:21:43 PM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

CONSERVATIVES to McCain AND the GOP:

Screw you. We don’t need you telling us what anything is.


36 posted on 11/14/2011 6:26:14 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Free ThinkerNY

FUJM


37 posted on 11/14/2011 6:26:49 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: M Kehoe

Ah yes. Now I remember.

38 posted on 11/14/2011 6:26:51 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Waterboarding is torture

Yeah, so?

39 posted on 11/14/2011 6:26:57 PM PST by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
McCain has been torturing Americans with his presents in the senate for how long now.
40 posted on 11/14/2011 6:28:29 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Jim Noble
What person would you rather have in the GOP

Zell Miller or Juan McCain?

41 posted on 11/14/2011 6:29:06 PM PST by scooby321
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To: martin_fierro
Can’t believe I voted for this putz.

I didn't vote for him, I voted against Obama.

42 posted on 11/14/2011 6:29:14 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

McCain is torture.


43 posted on 11/14/2011 6:29:37 PM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
John, thank you for your service and Lord knows how you withstood all the real torture [didn't Holder say it was all about intent?] that you received. You are inextricably conflicted when it comes to this subject and cannot be considered an objective observer.
44 posted on 11/14/2011 6:32:49 PM PST by NonValueAdded (At 4 AM, it is a test; at 2 PM, it is a demonstration)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It was Cindy’s water breaking that started the torture.


45 posted on 11/14/2011 6:34:21 PM PST by H.Akston
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Me to McCain: You as the nominee for president is torture.


46 posted on 11/14/2011 6:34:46 PM PST by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a second party)
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To: NonValueAdded

McLame is senatorial torture. Arizona...stop torturing the rest of us...Please?


47 posted on 11/14/2011 6:35:54 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: martin_fierro

Me too :((((((


48 posted on 11/14/2011 6:42:59 PM PST by Buddygirl
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Our official government policy should be that we don’t torture. I don’t expect to know what actually goes on and, with due respect, think McCain should quit repeating his opinion of waterboarding.

Torture is like abortion in that formal policy is one thing, whereas what actually goes on is quite another story that is impossible to tell.


49 posted on 11/14/2011 6:43:06 PM PST by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Who cares what McCain is dissappointed in. Republicans are dissappointed in him.


50 posted on 11/14/2011 6:48:02 PM PST by Venturer
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