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Teen Suspended From N.J. School For Wearing Confederate Flag Shirt
CBS New York ^ | Nov.14, 2011

Posted on 11/14/2011 6:10:50 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

EAST WINDSOR, N.J. (CBSNewYork) — A 14-year-old New Jersey girl has been suspended for wearing a sweatshirt with a Confederate flag on it.

Many see it as a symbol of hate and racism, but this teenager claims its part of her heritage, reports CBS 2’s Christine Sloan.

Torri Albrecht said Monday when she showed up to her middle school wearing a sweatshirt with the confederate flag. She said her vice principal gave her a choice:

“He said I had to take off the sweatshirt or flip it inside out or face the consequences,” Albrecht said.

But the eighth grader, who was born in Virginia and lived there just a year, said she refused to take it off.

“It shows I am from the South. I am proud of where I came from and it shows my heritage,” Albrecht said.

The teenager’s mother, who took a picture at the Kreps Middle School, said her daughter was suspended for not changing into something else — a violation, she said, of her First Amendment rights.

“The Indian kids get to wear turbans. The Jewish children can wear yarmulkes. That’s their birth right, their heritage. It’s my daughter’s heritage,” said Jane West, Albrecht’s mother.

An assistant superintendent said Albrecht was not suspended for the sweatshirt but for a confidentiality policy they can’t discuss.

“When I got the suspension slip it said she was disrespectful when asked to remove her sweatshirt,” West said.

(Excerpt) Read more at newyork.cbslocal.com ...


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KEYWORDS: confederateflag

1 posted on 11/14/2011 6:10:51 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When your side loses a war... you don’t get to fly your flag any more.


2 posted on 11/14/2011 6:26:27 PM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“...“The Indian kids get to wear turbans. The Jewish children can wear yarmulkes...”

I wonder if this is the disrespectful part the administration is referencing. I have a strong prejudice in this girl’s favor.


3 posted on 11/14/2011 6:27:10 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I catch some crap for it but I display the Battle Flag when I see fit; I’m too old to care if someone is offended.


4 posted on 11/14/2011 6:29:08 PM PST by One Name
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To: rwilson99

You haven’t been to Cinco de Mayo lately...


5 posted on 11/14/2011 6:30:38 PM PST by One Name
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To: Free ThinkerNY

One of the higher Federal Courts has already made a decision about this issue and the side that wished to wear the Confederate Battle Flag won. The exception is that if the school banned all symbols, religious or ethnic, they could justify the decision. If I were this girl, I’d own the school.


6 posted on 11/14/2011 6:33:18 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The kid should have taken off the shirt then screamed “RAPE!”


7 posted on 11/14/2011 6:33:18 PM PST by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a second party)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

...wear it again next week, but have your mom sew in big red letters “the vice principal sucks” on the inside....then when she’s say’s turn your shirt inside out..........ta-dah!


8 posted on 11/14/2011 6:34:59 PM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: rwilson99

When the South lost it was a loss for all of us who are fighting the all-powerful nanny state and we’re not winning now either. They are already saying we can’t fly the Stars and Stripes in some places.


9 posted on 11/14/2011 6:38:33 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: One Name

It was France... but a win is a win.


10 posted on 11/14/2011 6:38:33 PM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

And a divided USA loses WWII... and you’d be speaking Japanese now.


11 posted on 11/14/2011 6:40:59 PM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

She should wear a shirt with the Georgia state flag.


12 posted on 11/14/2011 6:43:33 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: rwilson99

“...And a divided USA loses WWII...”

You don’t believe that yourself. The tide had turned before the Roosevelt-weakened U.S. had been in the war one full year.


13 posted on 11/14/2011 6:45:50 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: rwilson99

LOL! Touche...


14 posted on 11/14/2011 6:47:10 PM PST by stormer
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To: rwilson99

There was the Mexican-American war, and then the incursion of Pancho Villa which Pershing repelled and prosecuted...

But I still get your point; the vanquished can’t fly their flag in the US.


15 posted on 11/14/2011 6:47:14 PM PST by One Name
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“It’s a negative connotation. All she’s doing is hurting other peoples’ feelings,” resident Ken Flent told Sloan.

This bigoted slug needs to get a life. The Confederate Navy jack was, and remains, a symbol of Honor. As the great-grandson of a Confederate veteran, I am sick and tired of having to kowtow to the "feelings" of jackasses who know NOT of what they speak.

16 posted on 11/14/2011 6:48:08 PM PST by LaybackLenny (All hail Her Royal Highness Sarah, Queen of The Hobbits)
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To: stormer

Laugh all you want.

The Civil War was fought 150 years ago.

You didn’t kill us...


17 posted on 11/14/2011 6:55:45 PM PST by One Name
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To: Monterrosa-24

I have heard stories from N.J. friends who tell of school students wearing the black baseball cap with the X; black nationalist flag on tee-shirts; Louis Farrakhan tee-shirts; “It’s a Black Thing, You Wouldn’t Understand Tee-Shirts”... that is OK. But wear the Confederate Flag? Oh, that is terrible!! You are offending the minority and some white students!!


18 posted on 11/14/2011 6:56:57 PM PST by Mr. Wright
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To: One Name
the incursion of Pancho Villa which Pershing repelled and prosecuted.

PV's attack was a raid, not an invasion. And it was not a success. He achieved complete surprise but nevertheless lost 5x the men the Americans did, despite outnumbering them 2:1. He retreated right back across the border.

Pershing didn't know about it until well after the fact. He did not "repel" the attack. That was done by the men, black cavalrymen, and junior officers on the spot.

The American incursion into Mexico was not a success by any reasonable measure, militarily or otherwise, and came pretty close to turning into a disaster.

19 posted on 11/14/2011 7:00:39 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Mr. Wright
“It’s a Black Thing, You Wouldn’t Understand Tee-Shirts”

I once saw a t-shirt with Albert Einstein which said "It's a white thing, you wouldn't understand". Should have gotten one when I saw it.

20 posted on 11/14/2011 7:01:05 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: rwilson99
And a divided USA loses WWII... and you’d be speaking Japanese now.

It's more likely that we'd have simply been assigned different landing beaches for the Normandy Invasion.

21 posted on 11/14/2011 7:04:33 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: PapaBear3625

http://tightrope.cc/catalog/shirts-white-thing-shirt-p-155.html


23 posted on 11/14/2011 7:04:47 PM PST by Mr. Wright
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To: rwilson99

We’ve been at war with Mexico, Britain, Germany, France (undeclared), Soviet Russia (cold), and other countries, yet those flags are everywhere.

The Stars and Stripes flew over slavery and bigotry for 80 years before the Rebel Flag was ever conceived. Should we get rid of that too?

Or why don’t we just get rid of any kind of icon that means anything to anyone. You’d probably be happy with white flags flying everywhere.


24 posted on 11/14/2011 7:06:29 PM PST by abishai
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To: One Name
But I still get your point; the vanquished can’t fly their flag in the US.

That does explain why those high school boys in California weren't allowed to wear the American flag.

25 posted on 11/14/2011 7:07:41 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: Charles Martel

Charles Martel...hmmm...now there is a name that would be very offensive to many high school students...not just in Dearborn, Michigan...but sadly in Nashville, Tennessee too. The Mohammedan invastion is here and now and many thousands more are on the way.


26 posted on 11/14/2011 7:09:34 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Sherman Logan

I’ll stand corrected- my original point was that the defeated Mexicans have no problem flying their flag here.


27 posted on 11/14/2011 7:12:19 PM PST by One Name
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To: Monterrosa-24
Then students should wear this and see what happens...


28 posted on 11/14/2011 7:13:10 PM PST by abishai
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To: stormer

You’re a hoot. Good luck my FRiend.

Don’t rely on the northern industrial base. It’s decayed, if you haven’t been to Buffalo or Allentown lately.

Guess where the remaining manufacturing jobs are: (Hint- non-union, open shop states)

Maybe the Feds will help your cause.


29 posted on 11/14/2011 7:17:29 PM PST by One Name
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Is this some radically different from Mexican flags' embrace by some other schools?

The answer is to ban logos and slogans. Either adhere to a strict dress code or switch to uniforms. It's what many private schools do.

30 posted on 11/14/2011 7:20:24 PM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Apparently you are only allowed to wear the Mexican or rainbow flags these days because those are not disruptive or controversial at all.


31 posted on 11/14/2011 7:21:04 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: LaybackLenny
An eon ago I received a scholarship, to attend UC Berkeley, from the good old ladies from the Daughters of the Confederacy. I think I have 6 great (times n) grandfathers that fought with the Confederate States of America. I've always wanted to purchase the Flag, but out here in the SF Bay Area, they wouldn't get the meaning of it, nor the historical background (nor the issue of State's rights).
So with the Stars and Stripes I just include some of the flags from the Revolutionary War (probably offends some Brits, or Tories, some where ...).
32 posted on 11/14/2011 7:21:47 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: vetvetdoug

Another federal court just recently said the schools can ban US flags during Cinco Da Mayo while Hispanic kids can still wear Mexican flag shirts.


33 posted on 11/14/2011 7:22:34 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Monterrosa-24
Charles Martel...hmmm...now there is a name that would be very offensive to many high school students

If one in one hundred high schools students knows who CM is, I'll be quite surprised.

34 posted on 11/14/2011 7:23:42 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Just as a hypothetical, should students of German ancestry be allowed to wear swastika armbands?


35 posted on 11/14/2011 7:24:52 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When we said “Free Speech”, we didn’t mean for you.

Now pay your taxes - your government is broke. :)

/sarc(??????????)


36 posted on 11/14/2011 7:26:27 PM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Terry Mross
"An assistant superintendent said Albrecht was not suspended for the sweatshirt but for a confidentiality policy they can’t discuss."

So he asked her to take her clothes off, and she would not keep it a secret?

37 posted on 11/14/2011 7:34:39 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: rwilson99

When your side loses a war... you don’t get to fly your flag any more.

I agree. This girl lives in New Jersey but transferred from the South (she should have stayed in the South where this type of behavior is applauded.). Anyway, I think that the school needs to put out a list of items not appropriate to wear to school at the beginning of the year. That would take care of a lot of kids trying to get away with whatever they want. The other option is to have the kids wear uniforms. Catholic schools never have these stupid problems.


38 posted on 11/14/2011 7:58:53 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Monterrosa-24
When the South lost it was a loss for all of us who are fighting the all-powerful nanny state

How ironic.

Actually, the "confederacy" wasn't even a confederacy. Their constitution, cribbed from ours almost verbatim, created a consolidated republic just as faulty as ours.

Had they created an actual confederacy, I might sympathize with the slavers, but the Constitution they created proves that their politicians were interested in one thing only--and it wasn't LIBERTY:


39 posted on 11/14/2011 8:55:28 PM PST by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9)
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To: rwilson99

That is why the South has been flying that flag since the Civil War....it is called free speech.


40 posted on 11/14/2011 8:55:54 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: napscoordinator

” This girl lives in New Jersey but transferred from the South (she should have stayed in the South where this type of behavior is applauded.).
_______________________________________________________

That’s right...The family were idiots for moving to New Joyzi :D


41 posted on 11/14/2011 9:02:29 PM PST by AlexW
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To: napscoordinator
This girl lives in New Jersey but transferred from the South (she should have stayed in the South where this type of behavior is applauded.).

Do you even understand what the war was fought over or is the rewritten history taught today your only clue...here is a hint...it was not started over slavery that was added after the fighting began because Lincoln could not get the North excited about fighting their neighbors, he needed a moral cause added to the fight to get some movement in his favor...it got the churches behind him...yep some even in the South but it was not what started the fight or the main issue at hand.

42 posted on 11/14/2011 9:04:02 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: rwilson99

Really? That should surprise the hell out of the British [1783, 1815], the Japanese [1945], the Italians [1943, although the Royal Crown was subsequently removed], the French [dawn of mankind to the present], the Danes, Norwegians, Dutch, and Belgians [1940], and some might argue us [ Viet Nam, see Democrat Congress].

Her problem is that aggrieved minority trumps Caucasian heritage.


43 posted on 11/14/2011 9:20:25 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Lady Heron

I don’t care. Wear the tee shirts in the South. Why bring it to a school in the North when they already know they won that war. It is dumb. It is like me wearing a Superbowl shirt 10 years after my team lost. Just stupid.


44 posted on 11/14/2011 9:25:00 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Monterrosa-24
I wonder if this is the disrespectful part the administration is referencing. I have a strong prejudice in this girl’s favor.

Yeah but putting the Confederate Flag on the same level as religious garb is kind of ridiculous.

45 posted on 11/15/2011 4:26:22 AM PST by SoJoCo
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To: Monterrosa-24
You don’t believe that yourself. The tide had turned before the Roosevelt-weakened U.S. had been in the war one full year.

Wuh????

46 posted on 11/15/2011 4:28:07 AM PST by SoJoCo
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To: stormer; Admin Moderator

Just so you know Stormer as courtesy.

I pinged the Moderator.

I don’t dry snitch...I dislike the whole idea.

Your post was over the top and vulgar.

Hat tip to the moderator.

I’ve been here 11 years....less than half dozen times I have reported someone..I don’t like using it.

Have a nice day wherever you are.


47 posted on 11/15/2011 8:48:22 AM PST by wardaddy (Ethnonationalist...I'll cop to that....Suicide of a Superpower...I've decided for Newt)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Tomorrow, every kid in the school should wear a confederate flag shirt.

I’ll bet they wouldn’t mind the kids wearing a Che shirt or the Mexican flag.


48 posted on 11/15/2011 8:52:02 AM PST by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

the War between the States is still going on politically...it never really ended

the North eventually prevailed thru attrition and preserved a “Union” but never achieved the political goal of locking up the South via black votes and white disenfranchisement for the GOP except briefly till 1877

since then it’s been back to a political war where today things are truly at a head again..not over slavery or secession etc

but over the Federal Leviathan...a Leviathan that largely is here today due to actions taken in Washington during that horrible war

there is a long arm of history


49 posted on 11/15/2011 9:03:40 AM PST by wardaddy (Ethnonationalist...I'll cop to that....Suicide of a Superpower...I've decided for Newt)
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To: PzLdr; vetvetdoug; One Name; Monterrosa-24; Lady Heron; meyer; Charles Martel
Her problem is that aggrieved minority trumps Caucasian heritage.

scratch thru the surface of the internet and you'd likely find that is what is at play here too on this thread but few of the south bashers ever admit it...although one nut always claimed some white southern plantation owner once raped his ex wife's ancestor...hence he hates any vestige of Dixie...and no I am not joking...poor thing...still in love with his ex

I don't mind NeoYankees hating us...truly...but most of them are from stock that came here after the troubles..unlike us...and they as a rule can't manage their own traditionally leftist affairs so why do they worry over ours?

White southerners are the most reliable social conservatives on the planet and without our steadfast block we all perish in a sea of minorites and weak whites like many whites up north..maybe they are just resentful

Whites in Mississippi...that most southern and racist of states to these klowns votes 88-90% GOP

Whites in New Jersey voted only 50% in 2008 for GOP...and there are many YANKEE states that do far worse than that

Hence...they should be on their knees showing their gratitude and kissing the hem of our historical flags and whistling not just Dixie but let's throw in When Johnny Comes Marching Home while we are at it

And don't get me started on who disproportionately supplies most of our combat oriented military...those actually seeking to make contact

Yankees...God love em really...they are only a faint memory of what they were in the mid 19th century...that must hurt

Btw...hanging right now from my front portico on the grounds of a former plantation in Williamson county...a Mississippi flag...my home state...and my kids wear it to school...plenty of northerners in Williamson...so far I have found a majority to be reasonable...not so in Nashville proper though...I change flags after a few months or for occasions and holidays...before this it was a KTM motocross flag for my lads...sometimes St George...sometimes Bonnie...sometimes Old Glory...even the old Sullivan's Jack

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50 posted on 11/15/2011 9:15:41 AM PST by wardaddy (Ethnonationalist...I'll cop to that....Suicide of a Superpower...I've decided for Newt)
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