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Court order allows Occupy Wall St. protesters back
AP via Yahoo ^ | 2011-11-15 | COLLEEN LONG and VERENA DOBNIK

Posted on 11/15/2011 6:18:17 AM PST by justlurking

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To: justlurking
...the injunction prevents the city from enforcing park rules on Occupy Wall Street protesters.

So, what does it take for anyone to get a waiver from any law on any book theses days?

I didn't know we had the ability to be exempted from laws on the fly.

I thought that the courts were there to decide if one broke the law after the fact. I didn't know they could nullify a law in advance for some people.


151 posted on 11/15/2011 10:04:32 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: All
"Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Lucy Billings signed an early-morning order temporarily barring cops from keeping protesters and tents out of Zuccotti Park.

But within hours, she was off the case as court administrators prepared to randomly choose a new judge — and excluded Billings’ name from the list of candidates.

Billings’ biography notes that before she became a judge in 1997, she spent 25 years as a lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union."


152 posted on 11/15/2011 10:05:44 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

“The National Lawyers Guild”

I stopped reading after that part.

153 posted on 11/15/2011 10:08:26 AM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Can I go to her residence and courtroom, piss on the ground, beat drums all day and defecate on the property without her getting upset? I DON’T THINK SO!!!

154 posted on 11/15/2011 10:13:24 AM PST by Napoleon Solo
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To: ArrogantBustard

D’oh! That sailed right past spell-check!

155 posted on 11/15/2011 10:15:15 AM PST by Haiku Guy (We don't need to Occupy Wall Street... We need to Occupy K Street!)
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.......Hope yer well. Stay Safe !

156 posted on 11/15/2011 10:17:03 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Haiku Guy

Seems to me a guy like you could turn out a haiku about it.

157 posted on 11/15/2011 10:19:22 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

In my time of need,
Spell check fails miserably,
And I am undone.

158 posted on 11/15/2011 10:22:23 AM PST by Haiku Guy (We don't need to Occupy Wall Street... We need to Occupy K Street!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Obama, Blooombird and the dems have backed off of their support somewhat.

Otherwize the fleabaggers would still be wallowing in thier filth in the park.

Apparantly “the march” is closing in on the park.

Maybe more arrests soon?

159 posted on 11/15/2011 10:24:56 AM PST by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

So is that what being a commie does to you? Or is it the macrobiotic rice diet, vegan socialism. Save the beef! NYC is full of people like this, and you know what— they ALL live in rent controlled (from ww2)properties. Subsidized and, in power (to some extent).

This is not change and hope, this is mange and dope.

160 posted on 11/15/2011 10:30:46 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

fyi, Trevor Loudon on GBTV Tonight

As you know, Trevor has broken many of the stories on our Progressive leaders here in the states. Van Jones and Leon Panetta are just two of those. He has written an incredible book on Barack Obama and his ties which is the first in a series of books to come. Barack Obama and the Enemies Within is a stunning compilation of Trevor’s research and blog postings. If you ever wanted to know the ties that bind Obama, the Progressives, the Marxists and the radicals, this book is a must.

161 posted on 11/15/2011 10:30:54 AM PST by opentalk
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To: justlurking

Best thing one can do is ignore them and they will grow weary. The only ones that will remain are those that have nowhere else to go and those that show up to watch the spectacle.

The National Guard would be the next step but that would be their Kent State moment. I do think canines should be employed for the unruly ones.

162 posted on 11/15/2011 10:37:56 AM PST by eaglestar
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To: justlurking

...if this was the Tea Party, the protesters would all be in jail and this group wouldn’t be saying a word.

Just another day in Obamaland. :(

163 posted on 11/15/2011 10:41:20 AM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: MrB

“I have yet to have someone explain the benefit to society of having these people camp out in a park, rape, assault and steal from each other, and wallow in their own filth.”

IN THEIR MINDS (let me be clear on that) the benefit is to the society of their imaginations, and consists of the damage done to the bank accounts of, or the shutdown of all those capitalists operating in the vicinity of that park.

Actually the benefit of the entire OWS exercise is the appearance, THE APPEARANCE of a LARGE Leftist movement that is in actuality nowhere near the value they portray it to be, but with the media, and the dispersal to key locations around the Nation, and the noise, and mayhem reported by their media sycophants they can make it appear the American people are behind them for their type of change.

NOT unlike the old trick of say three Leftist’s at a Townhall meeting strategically dispersed throughout the crowd in attendance to agitate, and give the appearance that all, or most of the attendee’s of the meeting want what the three agitators specifically demand.

164 posted on 11/15/2011 11:01:10 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: justlurking

Protestors do NOT have the right to infringe on the rights of others....per that neighborhood, the people who live there, businesses, etc.

165 posted on 11/15/2011 11:03:59 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: justlurking

Isnt this private property?

166 posted on 11/15/2011 11:13:37 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: Truth29

I heard on the news this morning that, frustrated with no action on getting rid of the looters by the city, a “mob” of local business owners went down and held a protest in front of City Hall.

167 posted on 11/15/2011 11:22:50 AM PST by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Do you remember the French police who stood around all summer in what was it... 07(?) and watched as the asian utes burned thousands and thousands of cars, night after night, for months? Do you expect more of US American politicans?

168 posted on 11/15/2011 11:28:37 AM PST by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: justlurking

You know... If it weren’t such a hazardous situation in regards to the safety of residents in the area I’d just as soon let them stay, in the cold, to die of illness or exposure. The fact that infections could be spread among the general public though - it becomes a problem to just “leave them be”.

There have already been outbreaks of serious contagions reported — like Drug-Resistant TB in Atlanta, or “Zuccotti Lung” there in NYC (I don’t know the official name of the agent responsible for the Zuccotti Lung outbreak). Also body and head lice are an ongoing problems - most likely the same for fleas from the rats...

With lice and fleas you start getting exposure to serious things like Typhus Fever, Relapsing Fever, Trench Fever, Plague, Tularemia, Parasitic Tapeworms, and the like.

I definitely would not be surprised if this lasts much longer for there to be a Typhoid Fever outbreak in one or more of these camps before much longer...

IF these folks take up residence again, and they all fall sick and some of them die, are they going to hold the city/Park Owners responsible? Will they then sue them for LETTING them stay if this lawsuit is found in their favor?

169 posted on 11/15/2011 12:05:35 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: cowtowney

“Conservative folks fed up with the bank bailouts”??? You’re kidding right? In all of the interviews I’ve seen I’ve not heard ONE “Conservative” among them. Change your statement to liberals who want Communism and you’d be much closer to the truth. These are Radical Marxists, Trotsky-ites, Socialists and Communists - mostly affluent college-age idealists backed by their predecessors who are definitely part of the 1% they claim to be against. Anyone calling for the government to increase regulations on the banking industry, and agreeing with these people’s calls for Free Education, Forgiveness of Student and Housing loans, and raising taxes on the rich to finance more social justice programs have no right referring to themselves as “Conservatives”.

Do you have any links/proof that besides the anarchists & criminals the folks are conservative? (Not referring to the Conservatives who go to heckle, interview, or discuss, but honest-to-goodness “occupiers”...)

170 posted on 11/15/2011 12:13:18 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Oh gads. Why are leftie women always so butt-ugly???


171 posted on 11/15/2011 12:57:36 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: LibertyRocks

No I’m not kidding. here is one example. there’s plenty of nutcases on this tape, but listen to the folks at:


They’re agreeing with Peter Schiff on several items.

Further, what does it matter? The first amendment was written for everyone, not just those that you agree with. Lots of these folks are wrong, but that does not take away from their right to go out and prove what idiots they are.

172 posted on 11/15/2011 12:59:01 PM PST by cowtowney
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To: All; justlurking
If these were existing park rules the court ruling makes little sense.

If these were new park rules created to address OWS, an OWS-sympathetic court might find wiggle room for this order.

Fortunately other cities, like Dallas, are having better luck in court against their Occupy mobs.

173 posted on 11/15/2011 1:11:07 PM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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To: MrB

old man winter will be taking care of them soon enough.
THose idiots are too dumb to know any better than to use a grill or kerosene heater inside their tents all zipped up. I expect we will be seeing a few carbon monoxide deaths in the coming weeks.

174 posted on 11/15/2011 1:14:11 PM PST by a real Sheila (RAISING CAIN to the top of the ticket!)
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To: justlurking
I suspect something has come down on high, but me thinks there will be war on the streets before the let them camp out there again. locals made it clear the meeting the other night that action had better be taken or else. Bloomy took said action less that 36 hours later.
Also, I think the nyc officials felt lower manhattan was devolving into anarchy, and they needed to take control on the matter.

Also, word I have on the street (from this side of the blue line) is that Ray Kelly & Co. are prepared to deal with the planned insurrection of the human refuge. Wish them luck.

175 posted on 11/15/2011 1:38:23 PM PST by jimjohn (Herman Cain: git it on yer mind!)
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To: newzjunkey

The national Lawyers Guild is politically powerful with a judge in they’re pocket.

Who in the hell is the national lawyers guild?Obama is in Australia and is saying nothing.BTW can the media ever answer if Obama is a practicing lawyer much less on any law review or was a true professor?

This is treason to the USA.Obama incited and backed these radical rent a mobs going against America as they rape and cause violence no one can pay they’re mortgage or get a job.

It is breaking news but the MSM will bash Newy,Cain,Bachmann,Perry as breaking news!

176 posted on 11/15/2011 1:44:04 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: newzjunkey

Who funds the national lawyers guild?

177 posted on 11/15/2011 1:48:52 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: BunnySlippers

When I was at University of Texas, the f-ing leninists had built a shanty town on the free speech area in front of the Union. I don’t even remember what it was about, apartheid? I dunno. Anyway, it was a big deal for a few weeks, then the occupiers drifted away, though they tried to keep somebody there to “occupy” it, sort of like a filibuster. Occasionally the administration would come and take the shanties away, but then they’d get built up again. For all I know they could still be there.

178 posted on 11/15/2011 1:55:12 PM PST by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: Rennes Templar

I think they should put a giant tent over the whole park...then it will be a real tent city.

179 posted on 11/15/2011 1:55:39 PM PST by CT Hillbilly (Thoughts=Words=Actions=Destiny)
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To: All

JUst announced on Cavuto;


180 posted on 11/15/2011 1:59:11 PM PST by Sparky21555
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To: rockabyebaby; Red Badger

Brookfield sold their soul when this deal was made and the devil has now come to collect. But the issue is this: the definition of public use. To give the park over to squatters is the exact opposite of public use.

The OWS people are lawyered up to the teeth and were able to secure this friendly judge (although many others would have made the same ruling, I’m sorry to say, as our judge selection process is totally corrupt in a one-party town).

We need a lawsuit by a conservative public interest group, to get these people out on behalf of the citizens of New York.

Getting the law changed to disallow these public/private hybrids is not possible with the City Council we have now, corrupt self-serving slackers in a one-party town.

181 posted on 11/15/2011 1:59:52 PM PST by firebrand (It's almost too late.)
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To: Sparky21555

And the idiot Obama is in Australia bashing Romney

182 posted on 11/15/2011 2:00:48 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

The NLG dates all the way back to the 60’s, SDS, Vietnam, etc. It’s made up of the same hippie lawyers from way back. IIRC it was lawyer, name slips my mind, from NLG who tried to defend Hussein.

183 posted on 11/15/2011 2:03:00 PM PST by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote! CAIN/DEMINT '12)
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To: AliVeritas


184 posted on 11/15/2011 2:03:22 PM PST by frogjerk (America: Innocent until accused or considered being accused by an anonymous party)
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To: justlurking

Screw the courts, just slaughter them!

185 posted on 11/15/2011 2:03:58 PM PST by dalereed (uity wise!)
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To: cowtowney

Yes, but the park has rules that state the park will be closed on certain evenings for cleaning, and there is no overnight camping allowed. Yet these vermin have ignored all of these rules...the ones the Tea Party followed explicitly...and yet nothing has happened to them! That’s okay with you?

And what about the rights of the small business owners in the area whose stores have been overrun by mobs of squatters who use the store’s bathroom to wash in, leaving their filth behind for the owners and their paying customers to deal with? Is that also okay with you? Why have any laws in the first place if they aren’t going to be enforced?

Mrs. Prince of Space

186 posted on 11/15/2011 2:04:56 PM PST by Prince of Space
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I also would be surprised if NLG was funded by Soros.

Obama’s not going to say boo. Insurrection seems to be a necessary step toward plan for collapsing the system.

187 posted on 11/15/2011 2:07:05 PM PST by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote! CAIN/DEMINT '12)
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To: Scythian
"Pure BS, if it was a conservative movement they get them on a permit issue and that would be the end of it."

If they were Conservatives, the National Guard would have been called in to move them out.

188 posted on 11/15/2011 2:07:25 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I’m shocked he’s bashing an opponent to his throne!

Have to run, GBTV is on.

189 posted on 11/15/2011 2:10:04 PM PST by Sparky21555
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To: Prince of Space

here’s what I said:
“I support their ability to protest within the law. If the protesters were conservative minded, most here would support them as well. If they are breaking the law, they should be dealt with.”

The small business owners? They will suffer. No doubt about that. That’s the cost of living in a democracy.

190 posted on 11/15/2011 2:18:30 PM PST by cowtowney
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To: AmericanVictory; St. Louis Conservative
Keywiki has all the goods on leftists, both individuals and organizations: Some snips: The National Lawyers Guild is based in New York, NY and was organized with the assistance of the Communist International in 1936 as a legal action front operated by the Communist Party USA.[1][2][3]. It is the largest U.S. affiliate of the Soviet-controlled International Association of Democratic Lawyers.[4] Some of their projects: An attachment to the Information Digest special report on the NLG The National Labor Project The National Immigration Project The National Committee on Women's Oppression The International Committee - "coordinated Guild activity in support of national liberation movements throughout the world" The Committee on Native American Struggles The Police Crimes National Committee The Puerto Rico Legal Project The Anti-Death Penalty Project The Grand Jury Project The National Prison Committee The Minority Legal Resources Task Force The Legal Services Task Force - trying to unionize it The Military Law Task Force The Gay Rights Task Force The Housing Task Force Originally the National Lawyers Guild was as a spin-off of the International Labor Defense, a Communist front started in 1925 as the U.S. branch of the International Red Aid, a worldwide Soviet-backed group founded in 1922.[7] In 1940, the NLG President, Russell N. Chase, was also the attorney for the Communist Party USA in Ohio The NLG became affiliated in 1946 with the International Association of Democratic Lawyers, another Soviet front. Guild members have been prominent in communist and far-left causes and organizations in the U.S. and have represented such clients as the Weather Underground, Students for a Democratic Society, the Cuban Government, atom spy Morton Sobell, Soviet agent Judith Coplon etc. At the Guild's convention in Austin. Texas, in 1973 concluded with the singing of communist anthem, "The Internationale." As at March, 1982, the Guild was the principal legal bulwark of the CPUSA, its fronts and controlled unions.[4]
191 posted on 11/15/2011 2:32:19 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: cowtowney
How are they telling you to shove it?

Maybe by letting the squatters stay at the expense of the taxpayers and telling the city they aren't going to force them to comply with basic sanitation laws or any other kind of restraint?

Are you the owner of the park?

Not any more. But my ancestors did settle and owned several thousand acres of NY and NJ for almost 150 years, including the land where Wall Street and Broadway now sit

What do you have to do with protesters in NY?

What in the world was in my post that makes you think I have anything to do with the protestors?

192 posted on 11/15/2011 3:10:36 PM PST by digger48
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195 posted on 11/15/2011 5:28:45 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Squantos

Aside from the fact that Goebbels was evil - what do you think of his insights into human control?

I’m well - safe and curious.

196 posted on 11/15/2011 6:54:40 PM PST by GOPJ ( Democrats are the only reason to vote for Republicans.... Will Rogers)
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