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Rift Over Tim Tebow Custom "Jesus" Jerseys
yahoo.com ^ | 11.15.11

Posted on 11/15/2011 6:26:54 AM PST by InvisibleChurch

He's the model citizen, the guy you want your daughter to date, yet Tim Tebow can't help being the most polarizing figure in all of professional sports.

And during the upcoming holiday shopping season, Tebow is going to get even more controversial -- once again without any action on his part.

A handful of Denver fans have decided a customized Tim Tebow jersey would make for the perfect Christmas gift. What could possibly be troubling about that? A whole lot, depending on who you ask.

Rather than have the last name "Tebow" on the back of the Broncos jersey, these fans have placed "Jesus" above Tebow's No. 15.

Not everyone thinks it's appropriate. Some fans told CNN (via KTVQ) that the new custom apparel is blasphemous.

"Sports is one thing, and Jesus is another thing," Traci Yown, a mom Christmas shopping for her son told the network. "I like to have their names, their last names on the jerseys. I'm a Christian, but I mean I wouldn't want people going around having Jesus on the back of their jerseys."

(Excerpt) Read more at thepostgame.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: athletes; broncos; chat; christians; denver; sports; tebow; timtebow
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1 posted on 11/15/2011 6:26:55 AM PST by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch

Religious commercialism makes me sick. For a sect that supposedly is against graven images, I tend to see an awful lot of them whenever I walk into a local Evangelical bookstore.

McChristianity cheapens faith.


2 posted on 11/15/2011 6:30:14 AM PST by rzman21
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To: InvisibleChurch
Tim Tebow can't help being the most polarizing figure in all of professional sports

I love it when the media writes polarizing articles and then blames the target.

3 posted on 11/15/2011 6:30:25 AM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Maybe instead of 15 it should show Alpha Omega (as in the Greek, but I can’t get the Symbol font to come up here in my post).


4 posted on 11/15/2011 6:30:30 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: InvisibleChurch
....yet Tim Tebow can't help being the most polarizing figure in all of professional sports.

Simply because he believes in God and His Son Jesus, and is not shy about saying so, Tebow is polarizing? How pathetic our society has become.

5 posted on 11/15/2011 6:31:06 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: rzman21

Yeah, why should we pollute McCulture with Christian memes!

(There are usually two ways of looking at such situations.)


6 posted on 11/15/2011 6:31:49 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: Rummyfan

He needs to kill a few dogs


7 posted on 11/15/2011 6:32:14 AM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Why should we participate in McCulture. Rather why should be let McCulture pollute Christianity?


8 posted on 11/15/2011 6:33:31 AM PST by rzman21
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To: Genoa

there are no atheists in football except the sports
writers. they are only ones offended.


9 posted on 11/15/2011 6:33:58 AM PST by gussiefinknottle (woof!woof!woof!)
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To: rzman21

Why should we co-opt McCulture... again the coin has a second side.


10 posted on 11/15/2011 6:34:49 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: italianquaker
He needs to kill a few dogs

Indeed! Or vehicular homicide....

11 posted on 11/15/2011 6:34:49 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Ask him for his green card!


12 posted on 11/15/2011 6:35:44 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Cool, a shirt honoring the Tewbow’s gardening staff.
(Such a non story.)


13 posted on 11/15/2011 6:36:49 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Anytime that The Name of Jesus is out there in a positive way is great! I personally root big time for TBOW ONLY because of his connection with Jesus.

I would have no connection with TBOW other than the fact that he represents Jesus, as we all should.

Tebow and his mom doing those great pro life commercials...AWESOME

I do not see anybody saying that TBOW is Jesus! He has Jesus in his heart!

Christians ALL are supposed to represent Jesus on earth.

It`s a good thing


14 posted on 11/15/2011 6:37:10 AM PST by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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To: rzman21
The NFL site allows jerseys to be custom made with names on the back. Perhaps it is Ivan de Jesus, ex major leaguer wearing that shirt, or Jesus Alou, or a million other Hispanics named Jesus. It certainly is better than old XFL player, Rod Smith, with his He Hate Me jersey.


15 posted on 11/15/2011 6:38:32 AM PST by InvisibleChurch ( go in peace , serve the Lord)
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To: Rummyfan

Post#5 says it all.


16 posted on 11/15/2011 6:39:09 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: Rummyfan

Of course, belief in Jesus is “polarizing”. He said so Himself.

And, just thinking about it rationally, Jesus and Him crucified for our sins is a pretty “offensive” concept - you’re stating flat out that those who don’t accept His sacrifice are spending eternity in hell.


17 posted on 11/15/2011 6:39:46 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Genoa
I love it when the media writes polarizing articles and then blames the target.

Well, remember, to our betters in the media, "polarizing" means that they don't like it, even if the general public is supportive or at worst indifferent.

Public religious practice/profession offends our elite superiors, so that counts as "polarizing" even if they are the only ones offended.

Remember, W was polarizing, but 0 isn't, since our media overlords support him.

18 posted on 11/15/2011 6:40:48 AM PST by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: Genoa
Tim Tebow can't help being the most polarizing figure in all of professional sports

Tim Tebow has done nothing wrong. What exactly has he done to make him "the most polarizing figure in all of professional sports"?

19 posted on 11/15/2011 6:40:55 AM PST by WesternPacific (Deafness has its Advantages)
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To: icwhatudo

“And during the upcoming holiday shopping season,”

Halloween? New Years? Thanksgiving?


20 posted on 11/15/2011 6:41:19 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: InvisibleChurch
One day I was in despair.

Alas, I was distraught over a series of sad turns of events.

Things had just seemed to snowball with bad news upon bad news.

Then I saw a sign: Do You Need Help? Call on Jesus!

So I dialed the number at the bottom of the sign.

Next day a guy showed up to mow my lawn.

21 posted on 11/15/2011 6:43:11 AM PST by N. Theknow (Idi Obama = Just your everyday, ordinary, 3rd World Dictator)
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To: rzman21

The only people who care about this are people who should know better

I guess wearing a ‘Jesus’ Tebow shirt is just lower than clubbing baby seals...


22 posted on 11/15/2011 6:45:01 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: InvisibleChurch

I love it, but mostly because it will make the irrational Tebow haters go even more bonkers.


23 posted on 11/15/2011 6:47:56 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; rzman21
>>Why should we participate in McCulture. Rather why should be let McCulture pollute Christianity?

>Why should we co-opt McCulture

I don't know, I think I'm with rzman21 on this one. I'm very uncomfortable with the idea of self-identifying as "Jesus" on the back of a jersey.

If you must put a Christian meme there, use "WWJD" or something other than identifying the wearer of a football jersey as Christ.

When I first heard of this I thought that folks were using this to mock Tebow's religious beliefs.

BTW I'm not a fan of Christian "memes" in general; wearing a (simple) crucifix or cross is one thing, but the pop-culture stuff (like WWJD - I know, here come the flames) dumbs down Christianity IMHO.

Christian belief can not be boiled down to WWJD. I've heard this phrase used to justify all kinds of dubious beliefs and actions.

24 posted on 11/15/2011 6:52:12 AM PST by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: InvisibleChurch

I think a little more Jesus every day’ would do a lot for this crumbling World.
There is no Harm !!


25 posted on 11/15/2011 6:52:14 AM PST by chatham
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To: InvisibleChurch
Tebow the Touchdown Jesus!

If he could play soccer in the off season as a goalie he could do a lot of saving! Make sure the back of his soccer shirt says Jesus that way he'll become extremely popular with the Mexicans and other Spanish-speaking countries.


Now if I could only photoshop in the face of Tebow.
26 posted on 11/15/2011 6:52:14 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Tebow is a culture-wide inkblot test. The haters, the believers, the ninnies, all come out and self-identify.

I'm Jewish, and I deeply admire a public figure who is not afraid to profess his faith, consequences be damned.

27 posted on 11/15/2011 6:52:24 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: jtal

So-called “Christian” advertising conveys a superficial Christianity that is devoid of any deeper meaning. I see it as trite and blasphemous.

Megachurch Evangelicalism is a mile wide and an inch deep.


28 posted on 11/15/2011 7:03:12 AM PST by rzman21
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To: jtal

I’d call that inappropriate too, because it comes uncomfortably close to calling Tebow “Jesus,” something even Tebow wouldn’t want, and taken literally it would be a blasphemy. But not all instances of “polluting” McCulture with Christian icons are blasphemy, unless it’s blaspheming the way McCulture is so stuck on itself. (Speaking of genuine McCulture, you ought to read some of the vacuous copy on McDonalds drinking cups today. Season’s Cravings? What, is it Selfmas?)


29 posted on 11/15/2011 7:09:52 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: InvisibleChurch

How about that?

A Christmas present with the name Jesus on it.

What a concept!

What is this Christmas thingy anyway?

Does it have anything to do with kwanza or winter holidays?

30 posted on 11/15/2011 7:09:54 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Yes, Jesus does save, and if a silly picture like that can open up the conversation, then God has blessed it.


31 posted on 11/15/2011 7:11:26 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: InvisibleChurch

NOT appropriate.


32 posted on 11/15/2011 7:14:17 AM PST by montag813
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To: rzman21
So-called “Christian” advertising conveys a superficial Christianity that is devoid of any deeper meaning. I see it as trite and blasphemous.

Megachurch Evangelicalism is a mile wide and an inch deep.

You sound just like the type of person who only goes to church so you can sit in judgment of others. You can not lift yourself closer to God by stepping on other peoples heads.

33 posted on 11/15/2011 7:14:26 AM PST by Niteranger68 (When voting, if you are not willing to work in the kitchen, order from the menu.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

If he is a sincere Christian (and I believe that he is) Tebow needs to make a statement today that this is inappropriate and he would like it to stop.


34 posted on 11/15/2011 7:16:43 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: USS Alaska

Good point. Maybe it would be clearer if it said something like “Jesus Is Mine” rather than the context-ambiguous “Jesus,” but indeed what better Christmas present than something that praises Jesus Christ?


35 posted on 11/15/2011 7:18:15 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: NativeNewYorker

I haven’t been closely tied to this football season, but Tim Tebow so far is just taking care of business. He is helping his teammates win games and the coaches are working with his strengths to help the team. Are any journalists ever going to help their team (USA) anymore? Division is all they are about.


36 posted on 11/15/2011 7:18:21 AM PST by taterjay
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Maybe if he donned his own “Jesus Is Mine” jersey, he’d make the point. They’ll put any name on a jersey, as someone mentioned above.


37 posted on 11/15/2011 7:19:24 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Christianity has been polarizing since 33 AD and before. No surprise there.

That said, I find myself rooting for Tebow just because the amoral left hates him so much.
38 posted on 11/15/2011 7:21:07 AM PST by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

I look at that shirt and it screams that Tebow follows Jesus....so what. A little tacky, but not offensive. This is a mountain out of am mole hill kind of thing.


39 posted on 11/15/2011 7:23:07 AM PST by tioga
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To: Niteranger68
You sound just like the type of person who only goes to church so you can sit in judgment of others. You can not lift yourself closer to God by stepping on other peoples heads.

So, how does it feel to sit in the judgment seat? Speck in the eye and all that.

40 posted on 11/15/2011 7:23:44 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: jtal

re: “Christian belief can not be boiled down to WWJD. I’ve heard this phrase used to justify all kinds of dubious beliefs and actions.”

I agree with you on this statement, but I don’t think the “WWJD” phrase should take the blame for people who use it to justify whacky ideas. I know you are not claiming that and you only picked out that phrase because a lot of people know about it - but, I think there are always going to be people who take things - especially religious ideas - to places never intended.

Heck, the Bible itself is used to justify all sorts of un-Godly ideas and actions - yet, the Bible is not to blame for that - people are (I know - I stole that from “Guns don’t kill people”, etc.).

As to the “Jesus” Tbow shirts - well, I wouldn’t wear one as a Christian because I don’t think it’s a very clear message. Is the person wearing it simply making a joke? Is the person claiming Jesus and Tebow are one and the same? And, as has been pointed out, the name “Jesus” is quite common among our hispanic brethren and therefore many people will simply think the person wearing it is named “Jesus”. Any so-called evangelical value is flaky at best.

On the other hand, are we saying they shouldn’t be allowed to make the shirts? What authority would do that? Maybe good taste and solid theology would say they shouldn’t, but as has been mentioned - just walk into any Christian bookstore and you will see all kinds of dubious “Christian” trinkets with equally dubious evangelical value.

Still, the name “Jesus” makes people uncomfortable. You can talk with people about God or even use the word Christ and no one gets upset, but as soon as you say the name “Jesus” - things get much more tense. So, are people upset with these shirts because of taste or because the name Jesus is unsettleing to them?

Just some thoughts.


41 posted on 11/15/2011 7:32:31 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: Niteranger68

So you are saying that I have to buy into commercialism to be saved?


42 posted on 11/15/2011 7:33:22 AM PST by rzman21
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To: tioga
I look at that shirt and it screams that Tebow follows Jesus....so what. A little tacky, but not offensive. This is a mountain out of am mole hill kind of thing.

I agree. Putting the name of the Lord out there as a believer is not offensive. No one is worshiping the shirt. No one is worshiping Tebow. No one thinks Tebow is claiming to be Jesus. The media just wants us Christians to hide in little cubbyholes.

43 posted on 11/15/2011 7:36:29 AM PST by Rinnwald
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To: Rinnwald

Jesus certainly hasn’t been visible at Penn State.....they could have used Him. It is refreshing to see a football player unafraid to speak his faith.


44 posted on 11/15/2011 7:41:14 AM PST by tioga
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To: InvisibleChurch

Personally, I thought “HE HATE ME” was hilarious.


45 posted on 11/15/2011 7:43:52 AM PST by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi / "...it is their duty, to throw off such government...")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
memes

Sorry. I don´t recognize words invented by atheists.

46 posted on 11/15/2011 7:49:18 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: onedoug

Prove that it was, and prove that this makes the word unusable.


47 posted on 11/15/2011 7:54:33 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: rzman21

About as much as it is claimed you must not darken the door of a “megachurch” to be saved.


48 posted on 11/15/2011 7:55:29 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Jesus? What? You'd prefer Jorge?


49 posted on 11/15/2011 7:58:04 AM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: rzman21

on the other hand— didn’t Jesus say something about those who are ashamed of Him and His Name on earth He would be ashamed of before His Father? In a world where too many called by the Name are afraid or ashamed of the Name and seem to think it an offense ....? We are assured,Sir , in the Sacred writings that the Christian is an offense to the world when they do
the work of Jesus. Because the World cannot understand the things of God. So I wonder which cheapens the faith more those of the world called Christian but afraid of offending the world? or those who display their pride in Tebow as a Christian and football QB?


50 posted on 11/15/2011 8:01:19 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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