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Does a Full-Time Homemaker Swap Her Mind for a Mop?
Jewish World Review ^ | 11-15-11 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 11/15/2011 11:54:18 AM PST by ReformationFan

I periodically write and regularly broadcast about male-female issues because I want to help men and women, especially husbands and wives, get along better. But I have developed a secondary reason: to elicit left-wing reactions. They reveal an enormous amount about how the left thinks. For example, one of the biggest left-wing websites (Daily Kos) wrote that "Dennis Prager advocates marital rape." Why? Because I wrote a column in which I suggested that if a woman loves her husband, and if he is a loving and good man, she might not want to be guided solely by "mood" in deciding whether and when to have sex with him. And just a few weeks ago, the same website declared me a misogynist for my column on what I believe to have been four negative legacies of feminism for women. I actually wrote the column on behalf of women, yet I was labeled a misogynist. Why? Because I suggested that feminist pressure on women to emphasize career over finding a husband, career over marriage and career over child rearing has not been good for most women or for society. That means, according to the Daily Kos writer, that "basically Prager is upset with contemporary women because they seek a life beyond being confined to domestic space and swapping their brains for a mop." To suggest that children benefit from having a full-time parent — which will usually be the mother — is, in the eyes of the dominant intellectual culture, equivalent to advocating suppression of women and "swapping their brains for a mop." The left views full-time homemakers as individuals who, because of patriarchy and other nefarious forces, have abandoned their minds to the lowest intellectual activity the human being can engage in: homemaking.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: dennisprager; feminazism; homemaker; housewife; intellect; mind; mop; prager

1 posted on 11/15/2011 11:54:22 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;q=quick;s=Does%20a%20Full-Time%20Homemaker%20Swap%20Her%20Mind%20for%20a%20Mop%3F
2 posted on 11/15/2011 11:57:13 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The enemy of my enemy is my candidate.<sup>®</sup>)
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To: ReformationFan

Here are the first two times she swapped her mind for a mop:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2807722/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2807771/posts

Maybe she should have swapped for an ability to use “search” instead.


3 posted on 11/15/2011 12:00:14 PM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: humblegunner; ReformationFan

I’m glad she swapped it a third time, because I missed the first two.

This is the first I’ve seen of this story. Glad it was triple-posted.


4 posted on 11/15/2011 12:04:20 PM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: Retired Greyhound
Glad it was triple-posted.

I'm so pleased for you.

5 posted on 11/15/2011 12:10:21 PM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: ReformationFan

In 25 years of work at various jobs, and interactions with dozens of different businesses during that time at all levels, I can count on one hand the people, male or female, who thought of their job as the dreamy, naive, “dream job” the left portrays the “reason-to-get-out-of-the-house” “careers” that young women are encouraged to prioritize ahead of their family. It’s only after young men and women get used to - and then addicted to - the idea of working and having spending money which enables them to hang in bars, buy cars and clothes and go on vacations, that they realize that their “career” is a job and they really don’t like it. By the time they “wake up” and realize this, they have bills to pay and are locked into working. This makes them want to shop and hang in bars all the more and all the less capable and interested in starting a family and having a hospitable home. Home and family is boring work for which one does not get paid to many people today, so they minimize the work and generally do a very poor job at it. IMHO.


6 posted on 11/15/2011 12:22:19 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: ReformationFan

Thanks.. first time I’ve seen this article, too. Prager misogynistic? The left is projecting again.


7 posted on 11/15/2011 12:38:09 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: humblegunner

I’m glad too!!

Are you always such a crank?


8 posted on 11/15/2011 12:44:27 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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9 posted on 11/15/2011 12:46:37 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: PieterCasparzen

This is way too true.

I know I woke up to the lie that a “job is a career”, and that it really didn’t satisfy me at all. That was when I knew I wanted to be a stay at home mom, in the 80’s.

And I am very glad I did. I stayed home, and homeschooled our daughter. But it wasn’t without it’s “opposition”. Even my dad thought that I should “work the first year of being married” because, his second wife was working, and she was jealous I wasn’t! Ha, that would have been a trap, and I am glad I stuck to my guns.

Stay home, be with your children, and homeschool them!!

It is worth it, very day, very year, for the rest of your life.


10 posted on 11/15/2011 12:50:02 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: ReformationFan
The left views full-time homemakers as individuals who, because of patriarchy and other nefarious forces, have abandoned their minds to the lowest intellectual activity the human being can engage in: homemaking.

And just who raised those on the left who are denigrating full time motherhood? Did their Mamas stay home and raise them, but bitch and moan their whole lives? Or were their Mamas career women who didn't think child rearing that important? Either one of those two options are possible, but it could also be that these folks just got brainwashed by the 'grievance studies' classes they took in college, and they certainly don't want to appear unsophisticated by disagreeing with those august professors.

I loved being a stay at home Mom, and I had that luxury, because when we married, hubby and I made a deal; I'd work until the first one was born, then I'd stay home and my career would be as the first teacher, chief cook, taxi driver, class Mom, school volunteer, etc. Some of my friends didn't have that opportunity to be home full time, but they did the best they could.

Each family has to choose its own way, and I don't think any of them should be made to feel less of a family, or guilty, whether Mom is working only at home, or has that job and another one for which she receives wages.

11 posted on 11/15/2011 12:52:37 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: TruthConquers
Are you always such a crank?

I'm not the one who posted a thread a third time.

It's a fact, I pointed it out.

12 posted on 11/15/2011 1:09:05 PM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: humblegunner

There are plenty of times that I don’t see threads the first or second time.

And I know that I am not the only one.

Is life so boring you have nothing else to do but be a crank?


13 posted on 11/15/2011 1:12:06 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: ReformationFan

I suggested that if a woman loves her husband, and if he is a loving and good man, she might not want to be guided solely by “mood” in deciding whether and when to have sex with him.
___________________________________

I would think a “loving and good man” would know how to motivate his own wife into the right mood...


14 posted on 11/15/2011 1:17:23 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: SuziQ
Hubby and I did the same agreement. He worked outside the home I stayed at home with the five kids. I would never trade my staying at home for anything! We did have to budget hard but it was worth it. My kids are old enough now that they really appreciate it. And I never swapped my mind but I did lose it a few times!
15 posted on 11/15/2011 1:24:35 PM PST by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: TruthConquers

There you go. You have an opinion on the issue.

What seems to be the problem with the listing of duplicate threads?


16 posted on 11/15/2011 1:38:41 PM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: ladyvet
And I never swapped my mind but I did lose it a few times!

My mind was kept sharp by our four kids constant 'negotiations'. The oldest one was so good at arguing his point, but always respectfully, we told him he ought to be a lawyer. That's what he did, and as we thought he would be, is pretty good at it!

We had interesting discussions with the kids as they were growing up; still do, when they're home from college, or just visiting, so they're pretty sharp, and know how to take apart an argument when it comes to their friends trying to convince them of the latest popular notions.

17 posted on 11/15/2011 1:46:28 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: humblegunner

It looks like you have lost your mind to a mop.

Your first post on this thread:
“Maybe she should have swapped for an ability to use “search” instead.”

Your post to me:
“What seems to be the problem with the listing of duplicate threads?”

So, you can answer your own post! LOL!


18 posted on 11/15/2011 2:01:29 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: TruthConquers

Alright, you appear unable to grasp the concept.

Search was not used, threads were duplicated.

These are facts. If facts bother you then I will waste no more time on you.

Enjoy your chicken.


19 posted on 11/15/2011 2:07:09 PM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: SuziQ
LOL, same here. One was so good at arguing his point I told him he needed to be on a debate team.
20 posted on 11/15/2011 2:13:09 PM PST by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: humblegunner

You are the one who was complaining about dup threads, I don’t have a problem with them, you do.

So, even though they are facts, I was not complaining about facts, I was pointing out that your complaining is unjustified due to others not being you, and they enjoy and are glad that threads have multiple posts because not everybody is you, and they don’t see them.

But I guess you think everybody else IS you, and we should just all do what you want regardless of how often others see the same threads you do.

Go eat your cat food.


21 posted on 11/15/2011 2:28:55 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: TruthConquers
You are the one who was complaining about dup threads

Pointing them out is not complaining.

I was not complaining about facts, I was pointing out that your complaining is unjustified due to others not being you

You have just crossed the border into Goofy land.

But I guess you think everybody else IS you, and we should just all do what you want regardless of how often others see the same threads you do.

You have just applied for citizenship in Goofy land.

22 posted on 11/15/2011 2:34:47 PM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: humblegunner

And your a cranky fussy Freeper who thinks everyone should agree with him.

I don’t, deal with it.

And you can go back to your goofy land, and see pluto.


23 posted on 11/15/2011 2:37:00 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: ReformationFan

25 comments already over here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2807771/posts


24 posted on 11/15/2011 2:43:31 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: ReformationFan

And not even excerpted. It’s posted in full there.

Might wanna have the mods lock this one.


25 posted on 11/15/2011 2:44:43 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: TruthConquers
And your (you're) a cranky fussy Freeper who thinks everyone should agree with him.

How does pointing out duplicate threads equate to thinking everyone should agree with me?

Do you not agree that there are duplicate threads?

Did I imagine the duplicates?

Are they fake?

26 posted on 11/15/2011 2:45:06 PM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: humblegunner

Old dup threads are old dup threads, who cares? I don’t.


27 posted on 11/15/2011 2:46:25 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: TruthConquers
Old dup threads are old dup threads, who cares? I don’t.

Great. You have an opinion about it, same as I have one.

What seems to be the problem?

28 posted on 11/15/2011 2:49:38 PM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: ReformationFan

mine started working after 14 years at home. 6 months later, she started wearing the pants. four months later i put a stop to it. 3 years now she has lived in her parents basement with my kids. boy she sure showed me!!

some women are not angry with their men, they are angry because they cant have what they see on tv and what other women have. women are theyre own worst enemy.


29 posted on 11/15/2011 2:54:06 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: TruthConquers
You are the one who was complaining about dup threads, I don’t have a problem with them, you do.

As does the Admin Moderator:

a refresher course on the posting guidelines
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1755064/postsPosted on Sunday, December 17, 2006 11:55:24 PM by Admin Moderator

SEARCH

To avoid duplicate posts, please search before posting. Use the published article title to prevent duplicates. The best method to search is to pick a key word or two from the title. If the article you are posting is, "Cindy Sheehan is a witch in a ditch", start with 'Cindy' for the key word. If it is a hot topic, you might want to use two or more keywords, in this case, try 'Cindy Sheehan'. For an effective search, select 'match all words' and select 'order by post time'.

See also:

How to post a thread and other interesting facts. (Welcome Newbies)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1569660/posts
Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:00:18 PM by Admin Moderator

30 posted on 11/16/2011 8:29:00 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

oh, one of those, kiss the mods types.

The searching function here is pathetic.

So, as a result, the self appointed brown noses here can stuff it.

I am never surprised at dup threads. Stuff happens, .........


31 posted on 11/16/2011 8:37:07 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: TruthConquers

No, I just try to follow the rules and guidelines of the web site. More a respect for the property of others while I visit and use their property.

Some folks don’t bother to learn those and it is helpful to point it out to them if they want to stay.

Some others don’t care about them and they are a pain in the behind.


32 posted on 11/16/2011 9:46:41 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

And some have the strange idea that they are the self appointed do gooders, and think that they can go around and bully others.

And have no sense of giving others a benefit of the doubt when the search function here is.........shall we say, lacking? eh?

Besides, do you really think a Freeper from 2000 doesn’t know the “rules”?

I am really getting sick at all these noses covered with brown, it stinks.


33 posted on 11/16/2011 10:00:44 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: TruthConquers

No, I had already figured out you were the later group.


34 posted on 11/16/2011 10:25:20 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayery)
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To: thackney

And your nose is brown.


35 posted on 11/16/2011 10:41:52 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: thackney

OK, Ms Brownnose, PROVE it!

Show me where I double posted.

Because I didn’t, self appointed bully bitch, stick where the sun doesn’t shine. Because you already HAVE.


36 posted on 11/16/2011 10:44:17 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: thackney

LIAR


37 posted on 11/16/2011 10:44:50 AM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: TruthConquers

I didn’t claim you double posted.

But you clearly don’t care if those guidelines are followed.


38 posted on 11/16/2011 1:03:28 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayery)
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To: thackney

I clearly don’t think it is my responsibility to “police” this site with a snotty brown nose.

And you won’t even admit that the search function here is sickly, while you hold your pompous self pride up for all to see.


39 posted on 11/16/2011 1:08:52 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: humblegunner

I must be a full-time homemaker as I missed the other posts. I confess that I do not own a mop, and my mind is questionable.


40 posted on 11/16/2011 1:13:44 PM PST by petitfour
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To: TruthConquers

No one asked you to police it. But you clearly don’t have problems publicly complaining about others who view the forum differently. And you also don’t seem to have a problem with name calling and insults.

I will follow the rules and guidelines of Jim’s web site while I am here. If I don’t, I expect to get called out on it.


41 posted on 11/16/2011 1:50:35 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayery)
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To: thackney

I have a problem with other Freepers who think of themselves has being superior enough to try to lord it over others and that they should be treated like mods, when they are not. Too many Freepers around here think like that, and you and your buddy are two of them.

And you bet I will insult those who try to call me a liar.

Conservatives are like that, and this is supposed to be a conservative site. Deal with it.


42 posted on 11/16/2011 1:59:58 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: TruthConquers

I am sorry you think of us as being superior. I don’t see that. I just try to remind other of what those guidelines and rules are when they don’t appear to be following them.

Can you show me where I called you a liar? You did that to me, although it wasn’t true.


43 posted on 11/16/2011 2:24:33 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayery)
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To: thackney

Behold, your own posts:

“Some folks don’t bother to learn those and it is helpful to point it out to them if they want to stay.

“Some others don’t care about them and they are a pain in the behind.

“No, I had already figured out you were the later group.”

Not “caring” about them, as you characterize it, and being a “pain in the behind”, equals double posting.


44 posted on 11/16/2011 2:28:45 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: TruthConquers
No, it means not caring about the double posting. Read what I said, not what you tried to make it mean.

And arguing with people just trying to see the forum postings follow the rules and guidelines, is being a pain in the behind.

The insults and name calling are just personal attacks, also against the forum rules.

Did you find where you thought I called you a liar? Or did you confuse me with yourself?

45 posted on 11/16/2011 2:37:15 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Peter Gibbons: So I was sitting in my cubicle today, and I realized, ever since I started working, every single day of my life has been worse than the day before it. So that means that every single day that you see me, that’s on the worst day of my life.


46 posted on 11/16/2011 2:40:47 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: thackney

And arguing with people who think they are the mods and aren’t, is a pain in the behind.

And people who can’t figure out where they are calling others names with falsehoods deserve to be called liars.

If you still don’t get that, re read the thread. Maybe it will come to you.


47 posted on 11/16/2011 3:14:33 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: TruthConquers

Falsehood?

Are claiming you DO care about multiple postings of the same article?

Did the persuasiveness of this exchange change your mind?

As you re-read through the thread, did you find where you mistakenly thought I called you a liar? Or did you actually confuse your own post as mine?


48 posted on 11/16/2011 3:49:55 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

I am sorry that you find reading hard. Reading comprehension is even harder.

A variation of a tag line.

I don’t have the time to waste on this anymore.


49 posted on 11/16/2011 3:51:51 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: TruthConquers

You have a good night then.

You seem to be easily confused.

I’ll pray for you.


50 posted on 11/16/2011 5:07:40 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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