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Gingrich Redux?
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Posted on 11/15/2011 2:14:39 PM PST by Fred

Newt Gingrich is winning over Republicans.

Over the past few months, the former House speaker has charmed primary voters one debate at a time. The once underdog — dismissed as a has-been when he first announced his run and the laughingstock of the race after he accumulated $1 million in debt this summer and was abandoned by almost his entire political team — has compellingly mixed historical insight, warmth toward his fellow GOP candidates, and rancor toward the media into a formula that has propelled him to the top of the polls.

But is Gingrich the savior the GOP has been yearning for, as the party lurches from one flavor-of-the-month contender to the next? Gingrich, of course, has an impressive political résumé, particularly his 1994 Contract with America. But he also has, to borrow Tim Pawlenty’s term, some significant “clunkers” in his record that conservatives may want to consider before settling on Gingrich as the man of the hour. In no particular order, here are ten items in Gingrich’s record that might give conservatives pause:

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: beltway; cronycapitalist; gingrich; newt; rino; sellout; tool
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1 posted on 11/15/2011 2:14:40 PM PST by Fred
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To: Fred
Defeating the Democrats AFTER FORTY YEARS IN CONTROL OF THE GOVERNMENT and then impeaching Clinton, are reasons enough to elect Newt President.

Why don't you Cain supporters act like real Americans and advance your guy without trashing his fellow candidates?

2 posted on 11/15/2011 2:20:02 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Fred

He hasn’t charmed this Republican.


3 posted on 11/15/2011 2:20:29 PM PST by Hattie
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To: Fred
Jack Reynolds : 11/15/11 16:43 Gingrich strikes me as a possible Winston Churchill, a man who had his share of mistakes before World War II, but was a great man when his country needed him. Things are going to get bad in this country, and we're going to need a great man to get us through. Romney is a RINO and Cain is poorly qualified although either would be better than the current joke. Gingrich understands American conservatism and he is politically principled. His negatives are personal, not intellectual. That shouldn't matter as Democrats have shown they don''t care about personal flaws -- Obama, Clinton, Kerry, Edwards, et al.
-- One of the comments at the end of the article.

I thought it was an interesting one.

4 posted on 11/15/2011 2:20:42 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Fred

America needs this talent at the helm, by golly.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/herman-cain-gun-control-a-states-issue-huh/

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/11/14/brutal-cain-blanks-on-libya-supports-collective-bargaining-for-public-employee-union/


5 posted on 11/15/2011 2:22:54 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~... Newt/Cain 2012..."Save a pretzel for the gas jets.")
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To: Fred
Imagine after Zero's reelection what you will have to say about this crop of Republican candidates. You'll be right, and it's apparent now.

6 posted on 11/15/2011 2:25:26 PM PST by I see my hands (The old sod ne'er shall be forgot.)
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To: Deb

But wait, there’s more......

http://kitmantv.blogspot.com/2009/11/part-ii-part-iii-part-iv.html


7 posted on 11/15/2011 2:25:34 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~... Newt/Cain 2012..."Save a pretzel for the gas jets.")
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To: samtheman

I thought of Churchill as well. The right man at the right time. And the lilliputians will try to destroy him.


8 posted on 11/15/2011 2:27:46 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Gator113

Yikes.


9 posted on 11/15/2011 2:29:32 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Fred

I am looking at Gingrich differently now. His power and foraging days of his youth are over. He has grandkids. What does he or anyone else think will happen if/when TSHTF?

Patton proved that fixed fortifications don’t work. They won’t now, either. Even cutting off the Hamptons and the Keys and Catalina just flat out won’t do it. There may be a stray spot in the Queen Charlottes or off Greenland someplace, but money will not buy safety.


10 posted on 11/15/2011 2:33:01 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Deb

“Anybody who is behind Newt Gingrich obviously has not researched their candidate and is going on soundbites. Newt Gingrich is part of the problem in this country. (H/t: Prof. Bernie Way of Christendom College)

“Voted for the creation of the Federal Dept. of Education in 1979 under Jimmy Carter.
- Big supporter of Foreign Aid — even to Soviets through the Export-Import Bank.
- In one year (1994-1995) Gingrich voted for nearly $45 billion in foreign aid...that went to dictators
- He helped push through Federally-funded loan guarantees to Communist China.
- Urged the House to repeal the War Powers Act and give the Presidency more power.
- Urged Clinton to expand military presence in Bosnia.
- Supports Afghan War
- Supports Iraq War
- Calls for Iran War
- Supported Clinton’s welfare programs, education programs, labor programs, and environmental programs, as well as most of his foreign affairs programs.
- Supported spending $30B for the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 that shackled gun owners with new restrictions, federalized a number of crimes, and handed the feds police powers that the Constitution reserves to the states.
- Voted to give billions of dollars to United Nations “peacekeeping” operations
- Bailed out savings and loan institutions in 1991. $40B Bank bailout
- He was a draft-dodger during Vietnam, yet advocates foreign interventionism in his political career
- “Distinguished member” of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (Neocon, pro-interventionism group)
- Member of the World Future Society
- Voted for NAFTA, a blatant circumvention of Congress’ exclusive power to regulate commerce with foreign nations. Took power from American people and put it into the hands of unelected bi-national panels, made mostly of foreigners.
-endorsed TARP
- Continually supported increased federal spending.

“The Newt record is not pretty if you support the U.S. Constitution, and Liberty for all Americans.” — Kevin Gutzman


11 posted on 11/15/2011 2:37:58 PM PST by Shimmer1 (To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks (Heinlein))
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To: Fred
I'm sick of so-called conservatives expecting every decent candidate to embody the Second Coming. Gingrich is just a man. So are Cain, Perry, etc.

STOP EXPECTING PERFECTION. It doesn't exist in humanity.

If Reagan was running today, some of the geniuses here on FR would spew, "NO WAY. He's a former Democrat."

12 posted on 11/15/2011 2:38:12 PM PST by Dr. Thorne (Fall on your knees before Christ, your only salvation!)
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To: samtheman
Do not delude yourself. The RATS will never vote for Gingrich in significant numbers. Plus a load of right-wing Republicans will not support him in the primaries. How does he get the nomination? How would he win the presidency? Romney's weakness is the Southern Baptists who jumped to Huckabee in 2008. Perry is as inarticulate as Pres. Bush (both). Cain is more suitable to the mood of the Republican/Tea Party. Abandoning him over a he-said-she-said incidents 15 years ago exposes a mental weakness. The rest of the field is only interested in collecting campaign contributions as they have no credible path to the nomination. The only viable alternatives are governors who have begged-off at least once in the last six months.
13 posted on 11/15/2011 2:39:38 PM PST by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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To: Deb

Is Newt Gingrich America’s Winston Churchill?
by Jack Lord

exc:

“Is Newt Gingrich America’s Churchill?

The thought startles.

“There are all manner of people — including some conservatives — who would faint dead away at the comparison.

They shouldn’t.”

entire article/4-page, excellent read:

http://spectator.org/archives/2011/11/15/is-newt-gingrich-americas-chur/


14 posted on 11/15/2011 2:43:49 PM PST by true believer forever (First, they came for the rich.)
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To: Shimmer1
“The Newt record is not pretty if you support the U.S. Constitution, and Liberty for all Americans.” — Kevin Gutzman

Well, If THE Kevin Gutzman said it, it must be true! Of course some of those dictators were our friends and were better than the jihadis running some of those countries now. But, hey! Kevin Gutzman doesn't like Newt, so let's lose the election by nominating Ron Paul, the Walter Brennan of politics.

15 posted on 11/15/2011 2:46:48 PM PST by Dr. Thorne (Fall on your knees before Christ, your only salvation!)
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To: sefarkas

I got flamed on here when Rick Perry was the savior du jour here — I’d worked for the State of Texas, and none of what has happened surprises me.

I will probably get flamed for this one too, but I recall Newt’s previous deeds. Not the part where he lead the House takeover, but the part where he seemed to lack the willingness to run the House in a businesslike fashion. Where he allowed himself to become a Dem fundraising tool. Where he got himself into ethics problems — probably money problems caused that — and had to be bailed out by Bob Dole’s money before he left Congress.

I recall those items mentioned above, where Newt seemed to test out the political “moderate” center in a failed attempt at a political comeback.

Yes, he’s great to listen to, and I hope to have a beer over conversation with him some day. However, he’s NOT the person who would best fit the job.

Trouble is, of course, I’m not sure any of the GOP people on stage are the right person....


16 posted on 11/15/2011 2:48:11 PM PST by TWohlford
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To: Fred

National Review, aka Mittopia, are out to destroy every GOP candidate so that their boy has a clear field. They are quislings.


17 posted on 11/15/2011 2:48:56 PM PST by Dr. Thorne (Fall on your knees before Christ, your only salvation!)
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To: Shimmer1

Total load of crap.


18 posted on 11/15/2011 2:49:40 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Hattie

“He hasn’t charmed this Republican.”

I’m with you! Newt learned under Kissinger like Soros learned under Hitler.


19 posted on 11/15/2011 2:53:40 PM PST by ryderann
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To: Deb
trashing his fellow candidates

Reiterating Gingrich's record is not "trashing" him. Should we ignore it? And, by the way, American voters turned the Democrats out of power.

Repeating false stories about Newt's personal life would be "trashing", but that's not what this article was about.

20 posted on 11/15/2011 2:57:04 PM PST by BfloGuy (Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: Deb

Tell me why please.


21 posted on 11/15/2011 3:04:01 PM PST by Shimmer1 (To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks (Heinlein))
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To: sefarkas

We’ll see. He might end up getting more votes than you think. But you could be right.

I didn’t abandon Cain over those false hussy accusations; I never abandoned him at all.

I was never on the Cain train. He always seemed weak to me. He still does. He’s a good guy and he’s my #2 pick but he seems weak. Wags his mouth a lot and ends up taking stuff back. That’s weak.

I know he’s the favorite in FR and I know why. He SEEMS to be a genuine conservative (though we don’t really KNOW do we?).

And he is my second choice.

Gingrich
Cain

They are my first 2 and only picks right now.


22 posted on 11/15/2011 3:07:21 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Deb

Wrongo - on who controlled congress, how old are you 18?

Under Dubya’s first term, the house and senate was controlled by the GOP. Until 2006.


23 posted on 11/15/2011 3:11:14 PM PST by Fred (no job no house no gas no food no problem Obama 2012)
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To: BfloGuy
I wasn't talking about this article. I was talking about the people who have suddenly appeared and have engulfed the site with anti-Newt propaganda. But then if you actually think America suddenly awoke out of its ignorant political slumber and voted out the Democrats without the extraordinary special order speeches, news conferences and plain dedication Newt provided....you aren't worth responding to.

Newt's done more for this country than any of people at their computers, in their mom's basement.

24 posted on 11/15/2011 3:13:15 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Defend This
25 posted on 11/15/2011 3:13:47 PM PST by Fred (no job no house no gas no food no problem Obama 2012)
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To: Deb

You should know better, FR is no fanboy of newt, never has been.


26 posted on 11/15/2011 3:15:25 PM PST by Fred (no job no house no gas no food no problem Obama 2012)
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To: Fred

She was referencing 1994.


27 posted on 11/15/2011 3:19:20 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'll vote for Mitt Romney when Hell freezes over. He's as bad or worse than Zero.)
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To: Fred

Is that even a word? lol

I meant referring to 1994.


28 posted on 11/15/2011 3:19:59 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'll vote for Mitt Romney when Hell freezes over. He's as bad or worse than Zero.)
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To: Fred
Hey, short-bus-rider, because of Newt Gingrich and The Contract For America, Republicans took control of Congress in '94, for the first time in 40 years.

Read a book.

29 posted on 11/15/2011 3:32:16 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Fred

FR was not for Bush either once Fred....go back just take a trip down that rabbit hole
You will be “experienced”


30 posted on 11/15/2011 3:33:37 PM PST by wardaddy (Ethnonationalist...I'll cop to that....Suicide of a Superpower...I've decided for Newt)
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31 posted on 11/15/2011 3:54:09 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Deb

Because some of us have real and legitimate problems with newt and our rights have not been canceled because you can overlook those problems.

LLS


32 posted on 11/15/2011 4:05:17 PM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: Deb
BTW... I am not a Cain supporter... I have no candidate... and may have to vote against obama and not for anyone... but I will NEVER vote for romney.

LLS

33 posted on 11/15/2011 4:06:34 PM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: Hattie

The truth is Herman gives us the best chance to win. I like Newt, his knowledge of the political landscape, but he lacks appeal outside of our base. Anyone who knows politics will tell you appeal trumps substance 90% of the time. Herman Cain has both. Unless we want a repeat of 2008, we better take the horse blinders off. A tidal wave of demographics is coming, and unless we begin to take advantage of competent, conservative minorities, we will forever become a fringe element. We cannot continue to lose 75% of the minority vote - a segment of the population which is by far outgrowing traditional white America - our fall will be inevitable. Leaders like Herman Cain, Allen West and Marco Rubio represent true opportunity and change. Newt is extremely capable, but that’s not the issue. He will be stereotyped as the old, boring, elitist Republican. And it’s only a matter of time before the MSM airs his dirty laundry...flip flops, extra marital affairs, etc. This notion that Newt win will the presidency solely by debating Obama is fiction. Obama will only agree to several debates, of which, he will throw out a few empty but memorable barbs which the leftist media will repeatedly air to spin as a draw. The rest of the time he will have to find a way to appeal to America, independents, and disenfranchised Democrats. Charisma and energy are not his strong attributes; being part of the establishment is. This isn’t about personal choices, it’s about choosing the candidate who gives us the best chance to win in November. Will we learn?


34 posted on 11/15/2011 4:11:17 PM PST by xuberalles ("The Right Stuff" Conservative Novelties http://www.zazzle.com/xuberalles)
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To: LibLieSlayer

You wanna try again. I don’t know what you’re talking about.


35 posted on 11/15/2011 4:19:35 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: xuberalles
You're wrong. Cain isn't informed enough to stand in front of a group of people and convince them that what they think they know is wrong.

I saw Newt walk to the front of a room and begin to speak to a room of Jewish businessmen in New York, who were booing and heckling him aggressively. When he finished, they were cheering him and begging him not to go. Its on C-SPAN.

The Democrats and the media may succeed and he may not get the nomination, but Newt is the absolute best person I have ever heard (possible exception, Margaret Thatcher) explain conservatism.

36 posted on 11/15/2011 4:31:16 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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37 posted on 11/15/2011 4:44:45 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Gator113

Thanks for that link, it is great and many could learn a few things if they dared.


38 posted on 11/15/2011 4:50:47 PM PST by annieokie
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To: annieokie

If only.....


39 posted on 11/15/2011 4:51:40 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~... Newt/Cain 2012...“I’ve got a lot swirling around in my head.”)
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To: Deb

I always look forward to hearing Newt give one of his speeches, he is just brilliant. After reading “Benjamin Franklin, in his own words”, Newt is so much like Ben. Brilliant, Witty, and knows how to get things done. Go NEWT, a man for our times.


40 posted on 11/15/2011 5:02:04 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Gator113
ALAS!!!

You need to put that link in every THREAD forthcoming, it is a MUST for all thinking people to see. Don't worry about doing it over and over and over, in every thread. You have noticed that many/legions of NEWT bashers are not shy in re-posting their HATE NEWT SPAM to infinity.

41 posted on 11/15/2011 5:23:00 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Deb

Because I am an uncompromising, small-government, America- first, conservative... and Newt is a walk-across-the-aisle, big government, globalist.


42 posted on 11/15/2011 5:25:11 PM PST by Southnsoul
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To: combat_boots

The Jesus candidate does not exist, I suggest we all get down off your high horse, use our heads and the grey matter in between. Out of all we see in the gop field each one has been beat up by the media and none have taken them on directly except Newt. Now it is his turn to where the bulls eye and we will see how he fairs. My guess is he will tear them up and spit them out and this is the guy we need to do the same to the criminal and chief in a debate.


43 posted on 11/15/2011 5:31:13 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: annieokie

I have been and you are welcome to have at it too. However, the Cain folks don’t care.... they are in love.


44 posted on 11/15/2011 5:35:17 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~... Newt/Cain 2012...“I’ve got a lot swirling around in my head.”)
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To: Gator113
"""""they are in love"""""

ROFL, and that same blind, DUMB, pied piper "emotion" is what got us ZERO. Oh the charisimo spell that has been cast, and don't forget 9-9-9.

45 posted on 11/15/2011 5:54:08 PM PST by annieokie
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To: ronnie raygun

YEAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!! Go Team NEWT. Good and true statement.


46 posted on 11/15/2011 5:56:13 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Fred

Katrina basically rewrote a hit piece against Gingrich that has been making the rounds of the pro-Romney blogs. These guys do all of Mitt’s dirty work for him so his hands can remain “clean.”

Rmney backers dissing Mitt for not being “conservative enough.” What is wrong with that picture?


47 posted on 11/15/2011 6:25:27 PM PST by Josh Painter ("The only thing these 'investments' will get us is a bullet train to bankruptcy." - Palin)
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To: Fred

Meant to type: Romney backers dissing Newt for not being “conservative enough.” What is wrong with that picture?


48 posted on 11/15/2011 6:26:25 PM PST by Josh Painter ("The only thing these 'investments' will get us is a bullet train to bankruptcy." - Palin)
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To: samtheman
Cain..Wags his mouth a lot and ends up taking stuff back. That’s weak.

And Newt's your first choice? lol

Tehee hugging up to Pelosi was dumb of me; Sorry Paul Ryan; For/against fairness doctrine, cap and trade etc etc

Nice try man epic fail though
49 posted on 11/15/2011 10:52:21 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: Deb
Defeating the Democrats AFTER FORTY YEARS IN CONTROL OF THE GOVERNMENT and then impeaching Clinton, are reasons enough to elect Newt President.

Bless your heart!

50 posted on 11/15/2011 10:54:31 PM PST by eddie willers
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