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Fast and Furious: Case Files on Terry Murder Have Disappeared, Gone
Townhall ^ | 11/15/11 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 11/15/2011 6:26:31 PM PST by Nachum

The Arizona Daily Star's Tim Stellar is reporting the federal case file against illegal Mexican bandits accused of killing Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, has disappeared.

The case against the alleged killers of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry has disappeared from federal court records, apparently sealed by a federal judge.

In May, federal prosecutors won an indictment against Manuel Osorio-Arellanes and others, and they announced it with a press release. Only Osorio-Arellanes’ name was visible in the indictment, but there were blacked-out words where other defendants’ names go.

Osorio-Arellanes was charged with second-degree murder and was not considered the likely shooter. He had been wounded during the gunfight that left Terry dead.

But in the ensuing months, the case disappeared from court records.

Why? Nobody is saying.

Asked about the case, Debra Hartman, spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney’s Office in San Diego, which is prosecuting the case, said via email: “Yes, our office is handling the case and can’t comment further.”

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Funny how the files seem to have gone missing right after the administration met with Clinton
1 posted on 11/15/2011 6:26:36 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/gunrunner.htm


2 posted on 11/15/2011 6:28:53 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Ouch.


3 posted on 11/15/2011 6:29:07 PM PST by allmost
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To: Nachum

Clinton’s are experts at losing embarrassing stuff.


4 posted on 11/15/2011 6:29:32 PM PST by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: Nachum

With this slimey band of commie bandits running the District of Corruption, I don’t think these are the only files that are gone.


5 posted on 11/15/2011 6:31:13 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: Nachum

Simple. Just go check the private residence in the White Hut.


6 posted on 11/15/2011 6:31:26 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Ronin

Check Hillarys nightstand in about 7 years.


7 posted on 11/15/2011 6:32:02 PM PST by digger48
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To: Nachum
Gee. How convenient.

(HINT: It'll likely be found in the same location as Obama's REAL birth certificate.)

8 posted on 11/15/2011 6:32:19 PM PST by LaybackLenny (All hail Her Royal Highness Sarah, Queen of The Hobbits)
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To: MestaMachine

Oops, sorry...can’t-be-found ping


9 posted on 11/15/2011 6:32:22 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Nachum
Lying, corrupt sons of b*tches.

And a complicit media as corrupt as the politicians they're protecting.

We are really screwed.

10 posted on 11/15/2011 6:32:36 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Nachum
But in the ensuing months, the case disappeared from court records. Why? Nobody is saying.

Because when you get the killers under oath, then they have to tell the truth about their collaboration with the CIA.

11 posted on 11/15/2011 6:33:19 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Nachum

This is utterly criminal. Our government is openly showing itself as despotic. It must be removed.


12 posted on 11/15/2011 6:33:53 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Nachum

The Clinton’s know how to make ‘the bad’ disappear...


13 posted on 11/15/2011 6:34:43 PM PST by GOPJ ( Democrats are the only reason to vote for Republicans.... Will Rogers)
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To: Ronin

Can anybody account for Sandy Berger’s where abouts?


14 posted on 11/15/2011 6:35:03 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Nachum

A judge sealed the file. Why is it said the file is gone missing? It is entirely unavailable admittedly but the judge knows exactly where it is. Right?


15 posted on 11/15/2011 6:36:37 PM PST by RitaOK (Rick has fallen, Cain has peaked. Romney or Newt?)
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To: mvpel
Because when you get the killers under oath, then they have to tell the truth about their collaboration with the CIA.

Or the FBI. Or the DEA. Or the State Department.

Or Eric Holder...

16 posted on 11/15/2011 6:39:50 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Nachum

Obastard and his minions are capable of ANYTHING including murder to cover things up.


17 posted on 11/15/2011 6:42:35 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Nachum

I bet if I murdered a federal agent or was involved in any way in such an incident my files would be open, every detail about me would be public. This is garbage, pure and simple.

I imagine those responsible were part of the smuggling cartel the Obama administration was giving a free pass to. Obama administration was not only running guns to drug smugglers, allowing them to bring in their product, and now covering it all up. It likely continues to this day for that matter.


18 posted on 11/15/2011 6:42:56 PM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Nachum

More proof that tax resistance is justified.


19 posted on 11/15/2011 6:44:08 PM PST by Mmmike
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To: Nachum
Remember, U.S. Attorney for Arizona Dennis Burke resigned on August 31, 2011. Burke's office was handling the case before it was moved to the U.S. Attorney's Office in San Diego on September 6, 2011, just days after Burke's resignation. Now, the case files for the prosecution, dripping with details about Brian Terry's murder, a result of the Obama Justice Department's Fast and Furious, has disappeared.

Ohhh yeah.

Quick, somebody tell me F&F does not go directly to the top. Tell me this does not go right up around little bammy's jug-ears.

Tell me this is about protecting some third-tier beaurcrat.

Go ahead.

Yeah...

.

20 posted on 11/15/2011 6:44:55 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Nachum
and nobody had to sign them out???
21 posted on 11/15/2011 6:45:29 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Nachum
"Case Files on Terry Murder Have Disappeared, Gone"

Figures.

22 posted on 11/15/2011 6:46:43 PM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: Nachum
Remember, U.S. Attorney for Arizona Dennis Burke resigned on August 31, 2011. Burke's office was handling the case before it was moved to the U.S. Attorney's Office in San Diego on September 6, 2011, just days after Burke's resignation. Now, the case files for the prosecution, dripping with details about Brian Terry's murder, a result of the Obama Justice Department's Fast and Furious, has disappeared.

Ohhh yeah.

Quick, somebody tell me F&F does not go directly to the top. Tell me this does not go right up around little bammy's jug-ears.

Tell me this is about protecting some third-tier bureaucrat.

Go ahead.

Yeah...

.

23 posted on 11/15/2011 6:46:45 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: DesertRhino

You, my FReeper friend, know the meaning of despot. You are also correct. This is allowed because good people are saying nothing, but waiting around on an election in 12 months. No matter the outcome of the election, the streets will be filled and dangerous, because we are at crossroads and cross purposes. Freedom and liberty have to be won
....again.

We think the OWE Marxists are nasty now, and this is under a democrat president. Imagine them under a Republican, while trying to infiltrate our military. Law enforcement may be next, of course.


24 posted on 11/15/2011 6:47:43 PM PST by RitaOK (Rick has fallen, Cain has peaked. Romney or Newt?)
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To: DesertRhino

Every day when I read anything on FR I feel that I’m in a nightmare.


25 posted on 11/15/2011 6:50:36 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Nachum

Since the POTUS and the Atty General are ultimately responsible for those files; let’s prosecute them.


26 posted on 11/15/2011 6:50:53 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: DesertRhino
...It must be removed.

...Agreed, Question is how, short of conspiracy, treason, sedition? We can't even trust the system. I suppose it will come to liberty or death.

...Keep your pocket Declaration of Independence close.

27 posted on 11/15/2011 6:56:07 PM PST by gargoyle (...it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them...)
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To: Mmmike

” More proof that tax resistance is justified.” <<<<

Absolutely called for and justified. It would be helpful if it could be done en masse. Homes and assets would be taken, which seems to be their goal anyway, to force compliance. And winters are cold.


28 posted on 11/15/2011 6:56:24 PM PST by RitaOK (Rick has fallen, Cain has peaked. Romney or Newt?)
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To: Nachum

Don’t tell me. Berger’s been at it again! Where this time? In his briefs .....or his Hanes socks?


29 posted on 11/15/2011 7:03:10 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: skeeter

Yes we are....and have been since November, 2008.


30 posted on 11/15/2011 7:04:03 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: Nachum

At Waco, Davidians said the ATF shot first, while the ATF pointed the first-shooter finger at the Davidians. The church featured a huge metal front door —it was pock-marked by many, many shots.

The direction of each shot could be understood by examining the direction in which the metal had been pushed around each bullet-hole —this would easily show which side shot more through this door.

The huge door went, “missing”.


31 posted on 11/15/2011 7:07:00 PM PST by gaijin
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To: freekitty
You are kidding, right? Who do we get to prosecute? The DoJ?

Prosecution implies the use of force - we're gonna' need a bigger gun (or a lot of 'em).

32 posted on 11/15/2011 7:08:31 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Can we send a drone after a hostile leader on foreign soil - even if he is ours?)
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To: Nachum

THey need to protect their pet FBI informants aka Mexican drug cartel assassins.


33 posted on 11/15/2011 7:14:54 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: gaijin

The steel front doors from Mt Carmel evidently fell off the evidence truck during the drive from TX to DC.

While the truck was crossing the Mississippi River.

Oops.

“Famous, But Incompetent.” (To be charitable.)


34 posted on 11/15/2011 7:16:42 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RitaOK
...we are at crossroads and cross purposes. Freedom and liberty have to be won ....again.

...Yea, I posted that also, Liberty or Death.

35 posted on 11/15/2011 7:26:39 PM PST by gargoyle (...it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them...)
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To: Pan_Yan

ping


36 posted on 11/15/2011 7:30:01 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Real solidarity means coming together for the common good."-Sarah Palin)
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To: Travis McGee
...While the truck was crossing the Mississippi River.

...While I understand the serious nature of this discussion,(have already posted to that)I think back to Twain in "Life on the Mississippi" talking with a pilot friend about the dredging alligators that cleared the snags.

...Sorry, I needed a laugh.

37 posted on 11/15/2011 7:34:28 PM PST by gargoyle (...it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them...)
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To: Nachum

38 posted on 11/15/2011 7:34:43 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Nachum

I would expect no less from the architects of pre-meditated, agenda-driven murder (it didn’t matter who or how many).


39 posted on 11/15/2011 7:36:11 PM PST by PGalt
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To: little jeremiah
...Remove your name from the ping list or resign your FR account. /sarc

...Me, I'm digging a bunker.

40 posted on 11/15/2011 7:38:07 PM PST by gargoyle (...it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them...)
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To: DesertRhino; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...
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Here is the thread.

This is utterly criminal. Our government is openly showing itself as despotic.

41 posted on 11/15/2011 7:39:46 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Pan_Yan

“After a three-year investigation, Whitewater independent counsel Kenneth Starr[18][19] released a report in 1997 also concluding that the death was a suicide.”

Yeah, right.


42 posted on 11/15/2011 8:14:45 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: cripplecreek

I don’t think he has yet taken his lie detector test - as part of a plea deal - so he’s probably laying low...
oh wait - Rats are in charge...nevermind !


43 posted on 11/15/2011 9:12:16 PM PST by stylin19a (obama - "FREDO" smart)
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To: thouworm; All

Specially after this last visit where Obama was deliriously happy in his Hawaii photos! Something much more than an APEC visit was in progress or had taken place.

A new, better forgery had been put into place to be conveniently found/provided later?

Or was something in Indonesia beckoning?

He looked more relaxed, relieved and happier than I have ever seen him.

Any ideas anyone?


44 posted on 11/15/2011 10:10:47 PM PST by FARS
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To: gargoyle

I guess I’ll just order a bit more metals (brass/lead/copper) and go over the list of rice and beans.


45 posted on 11/15/2011 10:37:23 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: FARS

Interesting - I avoid seeing/hearing 0hbummer so I didn’t know that.

Maybe he got some really good Big Island weed?


46 posted on 11/15/2011 10:38:48 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah; FARS; Danae

Danae knows how to deal with missing/scrubbed data.


47 posted on 11/15/2011 10:41:34 PM PST by txhurl
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To: FARS

I am certain you are looking for a pragmatic reply, but...

A good question often goes begging for a truthful and accurate answer. I can’t answer your question, but your observations and question will linger in my mind.

My couple of possibilities (none of them satisfyingly answer your question)

1) He has been informed how he will escape the noose of F&F.

2) Even though the “magic” is gone, he has been informed how he can steal/outwit in the next election.

3) His elation is short-term and related to the purposed outcome of the SuperCommittee

4) A thought I posted on the Levin thread tonight:

What makes me think Occupy is just a trial run? Whip up the mobs now, see how well they can be managed, and give the useful idiots a message/order later.

5) Lastly, we can hope it is a case of “pride (more accurately, hubris) goeth before a fall.


48 posted on 11/16/2011 12:00:42 AM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...


JUST DO IT!

49 posted on 11/16/2011 12:57:09 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: skeeter
"We are really screwed."

Fear not FRiend, you are in good company.

50 posted on 11/16/2011 4:25:03 AM PST by semaj
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