Skip to comments.Gingrich: ‘I’m a genuine, intellectual conservative’ (gives his ideas on illegals and the border)
Posted on 11/16/2011 11:50:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
CARROLL As he surged to the top of two national polls Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich spent nearly three hours at the Santa Maria Winery in Carroll on Monday, speaking with voters, taking questions, signing books and screening a movie he co-developed celebrating Pope John Paul II.
Gingrich also conducted a 10-minute interview with The Carroll Daily Times Herald and La Prensa, an Iowa Spanish-language newspaper, before going on air nationally with Fox News Sean Hannity from a makeshift, temporary studio...
....La Prensa asked Gingrichs reaction to an often-repeated line from Cain about constructing a border fence with Mexico so that it can electrocute immigrants, and possibly even snare them in an associated moat stocked with alligators.
It was a bad idea, Gingrich said.
He added, I hope he was joking. Id like to think he was joking.
Gingrich then turned to his own immigration plans, calling for control of the border in a way that is human and practical.
Im working on an immigration program which is firm but at the same time has a human aspect to it that I think most Hispanic Americans would appreciate, Gingrich said.
Earlier, in a question-and-answer session with voters in the winery, Gingrich said he wanted to impose severe penalties for employers who hired undocumented workers. Moreover, he put forward a plan modeled on the Selective Service System used by the military in World War II in which local committees of citizens could help determine the immigration status of a citys illegal residents based on factors like how long theyve lived in the area, family roots and contributions socially and in business.
Gingrich said rhetoric about deporting all illegal immigrants isnt realistic.
I think its very unlikely the American people are going to break up families, Gingrich said...
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Sure, he’s a conservative, except for, his, ...other views that aren’t so conservative.
The more I look at this.. the more I realize... given the current crop of leaders in the GOP race, and obama. We are screwed.
I still have hopes for Cain..
But I am getting my rain coat out for when the shtf because I don’t honestly think any of them will do what it takes to fix this mess.
WRONG! If these illegals DO NOT want their family to be broken up, they will move back together to wherever they came from.
Of course, Newt "knows more than we pheasants do".
Newt is smart, quick on his feet, a good debater, but otherwise is a genuine phony.
Rick Perry has called for the border to be SEALED, the cartels killed off and NO amnesty.
WHO DO YOU WANT?
Would you mind if I use that pic of Newt and nancy?
Keep it up CW and people like will NEVER vote for Perry. Never.
Rick Perry has said you are a heartless person if you do not want to let illegals have a free education and give them credits to go to college. He’s also a complete fraud and disingenuous. When he said he couldn’t recall his 3rd dept he wanted to disband...and then he recalled it a long time later...it’s obvious someone else wrote that down for him. If he truly wanted to disband it, and it was truly HIS idea, he would of recalled it on the spot. He is another telepormpter candidate.
obama socialist...rick perry ad...
And just which party does he want to be the candidate for?
Intellectuals have a problem with overthinking things to the point of overly much, causing brain confusion.
Morons don’t think about much other than what they are told, and if it benefits them because someone told them so, they will go for it.
What the Hell is an "intellectual conservative"?
Before Republican voters fall in love Newt again, or for the first time, they need to know what he’s proposing on illegal aliens, which is nothing but another amnesty scheme with a few twists and turns that he uses to claim it’s something other than just another amnesty plan.
He even uses the tired old straw man that we can’t deport them all, and of course, doesn’t mention enforcing the law and ending the enticements which would result in gradual self-deportation.
Pro-amnesty and pro-global warming Newt. He really needs to be flushed out on these issues since he’d been flying below the radar and playing the wise conciliator and elder statement role at the recent debates.
In the end, no matter who is elected, the plan will be similar to Perry’s plan. A plan that was formed not only from experience but a paid independent study of the issue.
A complete and full fence sounds wonderful, I agree but even if whomever is elected is able to push that through—it wouldn’t happen until well into a second term, if they were able to get that second term. And it wouldn’t be completed until after they were out of office, if the plan was continued.
That is too long to wait and I think for a plan to have an immediate impact it will need to be Perry’s plan or one very similar to his.
None of the candidates are going to round up and send all illegals home. None. That just won’t happen.
And what type of person labels themselves "Intellectual"? I guess that distinguishes him from us Tea Party conservative dolts...
Still going for another form of amnesty
All Conservatives are, “Intellectual.”
That is why we are conservatives.
Who do you want?
No. The Texas legislature voted almost unanimously to let the children brought into the U.S. illegally, who had spent at least 3 years in Texas schools and graduated, to pay instate tuition. Gov. Perry signed that 2001 bill. It is a state decision (many states have it and many more have it on their radar because it is the trade-off they have to make because the Feds refuse to SEAL the border). They must apply for citizenship. Most of the small number who go on to college attend local community colleges.
When he said he couldnt recall his 3rd dept he wanted to disband...and then he recalled it a long time later...its obvious someone else wrote that down for him. If he truly wanted to disband it, and it was truly HIS idea, he would of recalled it on the spot. He is another telepormpter candidate.
Texas is an energy state. Gov. Rick Perry has been battling the EPA and the Energy Dept for over a decade. As he said, "oops." It happens to everyone. Even you.
Newt is an amnesty backer basically, next!
“Bill Clinton came to Rick Perry’s defense Monday over a law the Texas governor signed granting in-state college tuition to children of illegal immigrants.” (headline from CNN on 11/7/11)
What I take from that comment is, Newt sees himself as an elite.
Perhaps you missed the debate where Perry said out loud that those who do not want children of illegals to go to college at in-state rates are “heartless”. It did cause a furestorm ( and a dramatic drop in his polling numbers)
It was an 'OOPS'...only because he knew he was 'had'. It wasn't his idea otherwise he would of been able to recognize it when he HEARD It from someone else..... The man is an embarrassment and a clown.
Nice catch, that part went right by me, I'm slipping.
Gingrich on video from 7:00 to 25:07 - Overall immigration to make it as inexpensive and easy as possible. Goal as president to have all illegals in the country now be American citizens within 5 to 10 years. Much more.
Newt’s website for legal and illegal Hispanice (to unite them all), Gingrich Communications, Newt Gingrich, founder:
Until the border is SEALED, the cartels are killed off and NO amnesty is understood — there is nothing else to discuss.
Don’t forget the ‘tax credits’ that US Citizens don’t get.
Who should I vote for? Who won't disappoint me and make me sad?
...but give them free or discounted education before we do!
Newt himself has called that the fallacy of the extreme choice. I don't know of a whole lot of folks on the anti-illegal side who suggest that is practical. What is practical is to make it more and more difficult to live here as in illegal. He's right about big penalties for hiring illegals (although you need an AG who will enforce the laws). The laws in AZ and AL are a good example. I would pass a law that any employer who has illegals working for them would have a 10K fine per illegal for the first offense, and have their business seized on the second offense. Ditto landlords who rent to illegals. Employers who use everify would be exempt if the illegal was approved. Colleges should have to use everify as well, or lose all Federal funding. Finally, eliminate the "day labor" exemption for contractors, and require all day labor to be hired through agencies that will be required to do everify checks.
Laws like that would lead to the majority of illegals self deporting.
In June 2011 Debate Newt Gingrich called Americans Heartless for deporting 20 million illegals.
“GINGRICH: No, but let me say this, John. No serious citizen who’s concerned about solving this problem should get trapped into a yes/no answer in which you’re either for totally selling out protecting America or you’re for totally kicking out 20 million people in a heartless way. There are — there are humane, practical steps to solve this problem, if we can get the politicians and the news media to just deal with it honestly.”
Tell me how Newt’s positions on border control are different from Juan McCain’s?
He did not. He said it would be heartless to push them out of an airplane...versus giving them a parachute first (not heartless). ( It’s called comprehension....)
Obama and socialism and Rush said Newt is the only one going after Obama.
I guess Rush missed this earlier Perry ad.
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They aren't. That's the point.
"I think it's very unlikely the American people are going to break up families," Gingrich said...
Hey, Newt, ask the families of the 50,000 Americans killed by illegal immigrants since 9/11/01 how they feel about deporting all illegals and their concerns about breaking up families. The illegals' families are free to go with them. How about everyone else who has to pay for the illegals and their anchor babies? Money stolen from working Americans to support these illegal invaders. Hospitals closing due to unpaid bills, healthcare costs through the roof, unemployment at 9% while millions of illegals work under the table. And you think we care if someone who has broken the law for years has to go home? Typical out of touch career, elitist politician.
Oh, and Perry's no different. Especially on this issue.
And exactly how is going to seal the border??? He doesn’t want a fence. He doesn’t want e-verify. One cannot station troops on the border without running the risl of violating posse commitatus regulations. Tell us please, what is planning other than amnesty?
None of the above.