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Gingrich: ‘I’m a genuine, intellectual conservative’ (gives his ideas on illegals and the border)
American Independent ^ | November 16, 2011 | Douglas Burns

Posted on 11/16/2011 11:50:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

CARROLL — As he surged to the top of two national polls Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich spent nearly three hours at the Santa Maria Winery in Carroll on Monday, speaking with voters, taking questions, signing books and screening a movie he co-developed celebrating Pope John Paul II.

Gingrich also conducted a 10-minute interview with The Carroll Daily Times Herald and La Prensa, an Iowa Spanish-language newspaper, before going on air nationally with Fox News’ Sean Hannity from a makeshift, temporary studio...

....La Prensa asked Gingrich’s reaction to an often-repeated line from Cain about constructing a border fence with Mexico so that it can electrocute immigrants, and possibly even snare them in an associated moat stocked with alligators.

“It was a bad idea,” Gingrich said.

He added, “I hope he was joking. I’d like to think he was joking.”

Gingrich then turned to his own immigration plans, calling for control of the border in a way that is “human and practical.”

“I’m working on an immigration program which is firm but at the same time has a human aspect to it that I think most Hispanic Americans would appreciate,” Gingrich said.

Earlier, in a question-and-answer session with voters in the winery, Gingrich said he wanted to impose severe penalties for employers who hired undocumented workers. Moreover, he put forward a plan modeled on the Selective Service System used by the military in World War II in which local committees of citizens could help determine the immigration status of a city’s illegal residents based on factors like how long they’ve lived in the area, family roots and contributions socially and in business.

Gingrich said rhetoric about deporting all illegal immigrants isn’t realistic.

“I think it’s very unlikely the American people are going to break up families,” Gingrich said...

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1 posted on 11/16/2011 11:50:07 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Softball

"Because I am much like Reagan and Margaret Thatcher, I'm such an unconventional political figure that you really need to design a unique campaign that fits the way I operate and what I'm trying to do.'

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/15/politics/acosta-gingrich-surges/index.html
2 posted on 11/16/2011 11:51:35 AM PST by Fred (no job no house no gas no food no problem Obama 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A.K.A Amnesty


3 posted on 11/16/2011 11:51:46 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
THE NEWT GINGRICH TRUTH FILE (for those with short memories!)

Newt Gingrich endorses Dede Scozzafava in NY-23 House race

Gingrich Explains Scozzafava Endorsement, Slams Right-Wing Critics

Memo to Gingrich: Get Lost. Now

Gingrich Backs Obamacare's Individual Mandate Requiring Health Insurance

Gingrich donors dropping like flies

Bill Bennett to Gingrich: You’re Shooting at [Paul Ryan] From Behind! (Testy Radio Interview)

Mark Levin grills Newt Gingrich on his comments about Paul Ryan’s plan

Gingrich Calls GOP Medicare Plan 'Right-Wing Social Engineering' (supports individual mandate)

Gingrich Backs Obamacare's Individual Mandate Requiring Health Insurance (Newt praises Romneycare)

Gingrich Backs Obamacare's Individual Mandate

Gingrich Apologizes to Paul Ryan for 'Right-Wing Social Engineering' Criticism

Gingrich: ‘Strategic Blunder’ for Palin to Mock Obama as ‘Community Organizer’

Newt Gingrich Acknowledges ‘Contradictions’ On His Libya Views, ‘I Was Trying To Follow Obama’

Gingrich: My Ad on Global Warming with Pelosi was a "Debate," I will "Not Apologize"

Kerry and Gingrich Hugging Trees -- and (Almost) Each Other

4 posted on 11/16/2011 11:52:10 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Don't Tread on Me!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sure, he’s a conservative, except for, his, ...other views that aren’t so conservative.


5 posted on 11/16/2011 11:54:02 AM PST by lurk
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
There is no difference in newt and perry when it comes to amnesty, they both wish to call it by a different name. One believes in graft and cronyism at the sate level and the other one believes in graft and cronyism at the federal level.
6 posted on 11/16/2011 11:54:41 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Timber Rattler

The more I look at this.. the more I realize... given the current crop of leaders in the GOP race, and obama. We are screwed.

I still have hopes for Cain..

But I am getting my rain coat out for when the shtf because I don’t honestly think any of them will do what it takes to fix this mess.


7 posted on 11/16/2011 11:55:56 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“I think it’s very unlikely the American people are going to break up families,” Gingrich said...

WRONG! If these illegals DO NOT want their family to be broken up, they will move back together to wherever they came from.

Of course, Newt "knows more than we pheasants do".

8 posted on 11/16/2011 11:56:05 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Newt is smart, quick on his feet, a good debater, but otherwise is a genuine phony.


9 posted on 11/16/2011 11:56:09 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: org.whodat

Rick Perry has called for the border to be SEALED, the cartels killed off and NO amnesty.


10 posted on 11/16/2011 11:56:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Timber Rattler

WHO DO YOU WANT?


11 posted on 11/16/2011 11:57:20 AM PST by Fawn (No TO PERRY!!!!!!!!! Vote for Newt)
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To: Timber Rattler

Would you mind if I use that pic of Newt and nancy?


12 posted on 11/16/2011 11:57:27 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Keep it up CW and people like will NEVER vote for Perry. Never.


13 posted on 11/16/2011 11:59:49 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Rick Perry has said you are a heartless person if you do not want to let illegals have a free education and give them credits to go to college. He’s also a complete fraud and disingenuous. When he said he couldn’t recall his 3rd dept he wanted to disband...and then he recalled it a long time later...it’s obvious someone else wrote that down for him. If he truly wanted to disband it, and it was truly HIS idea, he would of recalled it on the spot. He is another telepormpter candidate.


14 posted on 11/16/2011 12:00:28 PM PST by Fawn (No TO PERRY!!!!!!!!! Vote for Newt)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

obama socialist...rick perry ad...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_NJgKoBERM&;


15 posted on 11/16/2011 12:00:29 PM PST by biggredd1
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This is the most blatant amnesty program I have seen proposed. Even McCain can get behind this. Heck, Obama, Pelosi and Reid would probably all approve.

And just which party does he want to be the candidate for?

16 posted on 11/16/2011 12:00:48 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Intellectuals have a problem with overthinking things to the point of overly much, causing brain confusion.

Morons don’t think about much other than what they are told, and if it benefits them because someone told them so, they will go for it.

major fail


17 posted on 11/16/2011 12:03:49 PM PST by dforest
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
‘I’m a genuine, intellectual conservative’

What the Hell is an "intellectual conservative"?

18 posted on 11/16/2011 12:04:09 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Before Republican voters fall in love Newt again, or for the first time, they need to know what he’s proposing on illegal aliens, which is nothing but another amnesty scheme with a few twists and turns that he uses to claim it’s something other than just another amnesty plan.

He even uses the tired old straw man that we can’t deport them all, and of course, doesn’t mention enforcing the law and ending the enticements which would result in gradual self-deportation.

Pro-amnesty and pro-global warming Newt. He really needs to be flushed out on these issues since he’d been flying below the radar and playing the wise conciliator and elder statement role at the recent debates.


19 posted on 11/16/2011 12:04:49 PM PST by Will88
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

In the end, no matter who is elected, the plan will be similar to Perry’s plan. A plan that was formed not only from experience but a paid independent study of the issue.

A complete and full fence sounds wonderful, I agree but even if whomever is elected is able to push that through—it wouldn’t happen until well into a second term, if they were able to get that second term. And it wouldn’t be completed until after they were out of office, if the plan was continued.

That is too long to wait and I think for a plan to have an immediate impact it will need to be Perry’s plan or one very similar to his.

None of the candidates are going to round up and send all illegals home. None. That just won’t happen.


20 posted on 11/16/2011 12:05:32 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Jim Robinson
Newt seems a bit confused.

1989: Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-GA) co-sponsors the ambitious Global Warming Prevention Act (H.R. 1078), which finds that “the Earth’s atmosphere is being changed at an unprecedented rate by pollutants resulting from human activities, inefficient and wasteful fossil fuel use, and the effects of rapid population growth in many regions,” that “global warming imperils human health and well-being” and calls for policies “to reduce world emissions of carbon dioxide by at least 20 percent from 1988 levels by 2000.” The legislation recognizes that global warming is a “major threat to political stability, international security, and economic prosperity.” [H.R. 1078, 2/22/1989]

1992: Gingrich calls the environmental proposals in Al Gore’s book Earth in Balance “devastatingly threatening to most American pocketbooks and jobs.” [National Journal, 9/5/92]

1996: At a speech for the Detroit Economic Club, Gingrich mocks “Al Gore’s global warming,” citing “the largest snowstorm in New York City’s history”: “We were in the middle of budget negotiations; the football games were coming up and we noticed on the weather channel that an early symptom of Al Gore’s global warming was coming to the East Coast. And it does make you wonder sometimes, doesn’t it, how theoretical statisticians in the middle of the largest snowstorm in New York City’s history could stand there and say, ‘I don’t care what it’s doing. It’s going to get very hot soon.’” [FDCH Political Transcripts, 1/16/96]

1997: As Speaker of the House, Gingrich co-sponsors H. Con. Res. 151, which notes carbon dioxide is a “major greenhouse gas” that comes from “products whose manufacture consumes fossil fuels” and calls on the United States to “manage its public domain national forests to maximize the reduction of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.” [H. Con. Res. 151, 9/10/1997]

2007: Gingrich calls for a cap-and-trade system with tax incentives for clean energy. “I think if you have mandatory carbon caps combined with a trading system, much like we did with sulfur, and if you have a tax-incentive program for investing in the solutions, that there’s a package there that’s very, very good. And frankly, it’s something I would strongly support.” [Frontline, 2/15/07]

February 15, 2007: “I think if you have mandatory carbon caps combined with a trading system, much like we did with sulfur, and if you have a tax-incentive program for investing in the solutions, that there’s a package there that’s very, very good. And frankly, it’s something I would strongly support.” [Frontline, 2/15/07]

In a debate on climate policy with Sen. John Kerry (D-MA), Gingrich says “the evidence is sufficient that we should move towards the most effective possible steps to reduce carbon-loading of the atmosphere,” and that we should “do it urgently.” [ThinkProgress, 4/10/07]

In a Washington Post chat, Gingrich rejects a cap-and-trade system, saying it “would lead to corruption, political favoritism, and would have a huge impact on the economy.” He says he supports “tax credits for dramatically reducing carbon emissions.” [Washington Post, 4/17/08]

2008: In an advertisement made for Al Gore’s Alliance for Climate Protection, Gingrich sat with Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and said that “we do agree our country must take action to address climate change.” [We Campaign, 4/18/08]

“I don’t think that we have conclusive proof of global warming. And I don’t think we have conclusive proof that humans are at the center of it.” [Newt.org, 4/22/08]

April 4, 2009: “And now, in 2009, instead of making energy cheaper—which would help create jobs and save Americans money—President Obama wants to impose a cap-and-trade regime. Such a plan would have the effect of an across-the-board energy tax on every American. That will make our artificial energy crisis even worse—and raising taxes during a deep economic recession will only accelerate American job losses.” [Newsweek, 4/4/09]

21 posted on 11/16/2011 12:05:32 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Navy Patriot
What the Hell is an "intellectual conservative"?

And what type of person labels themselves "Intellectual"? I guess that distinguishes him from us Tea Party conservative dolts...

22 posted on 11/16/2011 12:06:28 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Still going for another form of amnesty


23 posted on 11/16/2011 12:07:27 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Silly Man!

All Conservatives are, “Intellectual.”

That is why we are conservatives.


24 posted on 11/16/2011 12:07:31 PM PST by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: Jim Robinson

Who do you want?


25 posted on 11/16/2011 12:07:48 PM PST by Fawn (No TO PERRY!!!!!!!!! Vote for Newt)
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To: Fawn
Rick Perry has said you are a heartless person if you do not want to let illegals have a free education and give them credits to go to college.

No. The Texas legislature voted almost unanimously to let the children brought into the U.S. illegally, who had spent at least 3 years in Texas schools and graduated, to pay instate tuition. Gov. Perry signed that 2001 bill. It is a state decision (many states have it and many more have it on their radar because it is the trade-off they have to make because the Feds refuse to SEAL the border). They must apply for citizenship. Most of the small number who go on to college attend local community colleges.

When he said he couldn’t recall his 3rd dept he wanted to disband...and then he recalled it a long time later...it’s obvious someone else wrote that down for him. If he truly wanted to disband it, and it was truly HIS idea, he would of recalled it on the spot. He is another telepormpter candidate.

Texas is an energy state. Gov. Rick Perry has been battling the EPA and the Energy Dept for over a decade. As he said, "oops." It happens to everyone. Even you.

26 posted on 11/16/2011 12:07:53 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
What is the time limit in his visa.
27 posted on 11/16/2011 12:08:30 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Newt is an amnesty backer basically, next!


28 posted on 11/16/2011 12:08:35 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Cain 2012!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Bill Clinton came to Rick Perry’s defense Monday over a law the Texas governor signed granting in-state college tuition to children of illegal immigrants.” (headline from CNN on 11/7/11)

Enough said


29 posted on 11/16/2011 12:12:15 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Navy Patriot
What the Hell is an "intellectual conservative"?

What I take from that comment is, Newt sees himself as an elite.

30 posted on 11/16/2011 12:13:58 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perhaps you missed the debate where Perry said out loud that those who do not want children of illegals to go to college at in-state rates are “heartless”. It did cause a furestorm ( and a dramatic drop in his polling numbers)


31 posted on 11/16/2011 12:15:07 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Perry should not give ANYTHING TO ILLEGALS. He should find them and send them back. Perry should of not said we were heartless in a Presidential debate if he is one who REALLY wants to seal the border. Does he have no mind of his own?

It was an 'OOPS'...only because he knew he was 'had'. It wasn't his idea otherwise he would of been able to recognize it when he HEARD It from someone else..... The man is an embarrassment and a clown.

32 posted on 11/16/2011 12:15:17 PM PST by Fawn (No TO PERRY!!!!!!!!! Vote for Newt)
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To: Prokopton
And what type of person labels themselves "Intellectual"? I guess that distinguishes him from us Tea Party conservative dolts...

Nice catch, that part went right by me, I'm slipping.

33 posted on 11/16/2011 12:16:07 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Gingrich on video from 7:00 to 25:07 - Overall immigration to make it as inexpensive and easy as possible. Goal as president to have all illegals in the country now be American citizens within 5 to 10 years. Much more.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/11208416

Newt’s website for legal and illegal Hispanice (to unite them all), Gingrich Communications, Newt Gingrich, founder:

http://theamericano.com


34 posted on 11/16/2011 12:16:07 PM PST by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: org.whodat

Until the border is SEALED, the cartels are killed off and NO amnesty is understood — there is nothing else to discuss.


35 posted on 11/16/2011 12:16:12 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Nifster

Don’t forget the ‘tax credits’ that US Citizens don’t get.


36 posted on 11/16/2011 12:16:25 PM PST by Fawn (No TO PERRY!!!!!!!!! Vote for Newt)
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To: cripplecreek
Wow. You must be exhausted. I sure hate it when politicians disappoint me and change their stand on issues over 20 years.

Who should I vote for? Who won't disappoint me and make me sad?

37 posted on 11/16/2011 12:18:23 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

...but give them free or discounted education before we do!


38 posted on 11/16/2011 12:18:43 PM PST by TheGunny
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Gingrich said rhetoric about deporting all illegal immigrants isn’t realistic.

Newt himself has called that the fallacy of the extreme choice. I don't know of a whole lot of folks on the anti-illegal side who suggest that is practical. What is practical is to make it more and more difficult to live here as in illegal. He's right about big penalties for hiring illegals (although you need an AG who will enforce the laws). The laws in AZ and AL are a good example. I would pass a law that any employer who has illegals working for them would have a 10K fine per illegal for the first offense, and have their business seized on the second offense. Ditto landlords who rent to illegals. Employers who use everify would be exempt if the illegal was approved. Colleges should have to use everify as well, or lose all Federal funding. Finally, eliminate the "day labor" exemption for contractors, and require all day labor to be hired through agencies that will be required to do everify checks.

Laws like that would lead to the majority of illegals self deporting.

39 posted on 11/16/2011 12:19:16 PM PST by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: Fawn

In June 2011 Debate Newt Gingrich called Americans Heartless for deporting 20 million illegals.

“GINGRICH: No, but let me say this, John. No serious citizen who’s concerned about solving this problem should get trapped into a yes/no answer in which you’re either for totally selling out protecting America or you’re for totally kicking out 20 million people in a heartless way. There are — there are humane, practical steps to solve this problem, if we can get the politicians and the news media to just deal with it honestly.”

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1106/13/se.02.html


40 posted on 11/16/2011 12:20:03 PM PST by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Yep, Prokopton set me straight.
41 posted on 11/16/2011 12:21:05 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Timber Rattler

Tell me how Newt’s positions on border control are different from Juan McCain’s?


42 posted on 11/16/2011 12:21:16 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
That tuition deal is incentive to come!
43 posted on 11/16/2011 12:21:45 PM PST by TheGunny
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To: Jim Robinson

Agree 100%


44 posted on 11/16/2011 12:22:45 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: CajunConservative

He did not. He said it would be heartless to push them out of an airplane...versus giving them a parachute first (not heartless). ( It’s called comprehension....)


45 posted on 11/16/2011 12:23:24 PM PST by Fawn (No TO PERRY!!!!!!!!! Vote for Newt)
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To: biggredd1
Thanks! I like that -- it's true!

Obama and socialism and Rush said Newt is the only one going after Obama.

I guess Rush missed this earlier Perry ad.

President ZERO 2,0059,058 views

46 posted on 11/16/2011 12:23:38 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Vigilanteman
Tell me how Newt’s positions on border control are different from Juan McCain’s?

They aren't. That's the point.

47 posted on 11/16/2011 12:24:43 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Don't Tread on Me!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Gingrich said rhetoric about deporting all illegal immigrants isn't realistic.

"I think it's very unlikely the American people are going to break up families," Gingrich said...

Hey, Newt, ask the families of the 50,000 Americans killed by illegal immigrants since 9/11/01 how they feel about deporting all illegals and their concerns about breaking up families. The illegals' families are free to go with them. How about everyone else who has to pay for the illegals and their anchor babies? Money stolen from working Americans to support these illegal invaders. Hospitals closing due to unpaid bills, healthcare costs through the roof, unemployment at 9% while millions of illegals work under the table. And you think we care if someone who has broken the law for years has to go home? Typical out of touch career, elitist politician.

Oh, and Perry's no different. Especially on this issue.

48 posted on 11/16/2011 12:25:03 PM PST by tnlibertarian (Things are so bad now, Kenyans are saying Obama was born in the USA.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And exactly how is going to seal the border??? He doesn’t want a fence. He doesn’t want e-verify. One cannot station troops on the border without running the risl of violating posse commitatus regulations. Tell us please, what is planning other than amnesty?


49 posted on 11/16/2011 12:25:23 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Fawn
WHO DO YOU WANT?

None of the above.

50 posted on 11/16/2011 12:26:25 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Don't Tread on Me!)
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