Skip to comments.House passes concealed carry gun bill
Posted on 11/16/2011 3:57:58 PM PST by macquire
The House of Representatives passed a measure Wednesday that would make a permit to carry a concealed firearm from one state valid in any state that allows citizens to carry concealed weapons. The vote was 272 to 154.
The National Rifle Association-backed measure had the backing of the vast majority of Republicans along with a coalition of pro-gun rights Democrats.
A matching bill has not been brought forward in the Democrat-led Senate. But gun rights advocates have previously nearly-successfully attempted to attach a similar measure to unrelated legislation.
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Last time I read, the 2nd Amendment doesn’t require me to inform the government that I’m carrying
The right to bear arms shall not be infringed.
I should HOPE so!!!!!!!!!!!!
It has no chance, of course, but at LEAST that’s not the Republican’s fault, that much, I guess can be said at this time.
Dang run on sentence. < sigh >
But can it pass the senate?
It is President Obama’s signature trademark, after all.
One of my issues with HR 822 is the following, as stated on the CBS website:
“The bill would not allow Americans to secure permits in another state for use in their home state.”
In other words, though I have a valid Utah CCW, I still can’t legally carry in CA.
The undertaker in the SZenate made it possible for the two-faced democrats to vote for this knowing Harry would kill it in the Senate. Same old same old
Incrementalism. One step at a time.
They didn’t get all these restrictions and such passed at once, either.
OLD NEWS - not "Breaking News"
I'm sorry but this was "Breaking News" back in '87.
September 17, 1787, to be exact.
good, I see no where in the 2nd that states can ban guns, tell us how many guns we can have etc.
When I have gone places where I do not know I like to take my gun but going to certain states is a problem due to checking which states has which laws.
Now the senate can take this bill and we’ll see where the senate comes out on this and if this does pass then where does bozo the clown and his socialist mob stand.
which is why it disgusts me that we have judges who cannot understand those simple few words.
California doesn’t have a CC law?
Boob bait for Bubbas.
If you’re a resident of that state, you still have to obey that state’s laws. The bill won’t change that situation. What it says is if you visit California, California will have to recognize your CCW as valid - as long as you visit California. That’s the same elsewhere in the country.
Not quite - it stops someone from going to another state to obtain a CCW permit for use in their home state.
If the issue is that you relocated, and more restrictive CA CCW laws are preventing you from obtaining a permit there - oh well.
Utah didn't kick you out did they?
Aint it funny the Republicans seem to wish all Americans could
benefit from their Bill of Rights protection—the Democrats simply want to make sure everybody gets sodomized.
It simply requires a state to honor a CCW permit if another state allows them. Some states like HI and IL don’t, so that doesn’t allow you to carry in them. For most of the country, its not a problem.
Lets see if “Pro Gun” Harry Reid lets this come up for a vote in the Senate?
Tell that to 1934.
I assume that is because you currently are a resident of California?
The congress has been a bit reticent in overriding a state’s prerogative to set the rules for it’s own citizens within it’s own state. I do agree with you on the matter of guns — the U.S. constitution says the people have the right to bear arms, and those rights should not be infringed by the states, since we passed the 14th amendment.
The law as written also will not allow concealed carry permit holders to carry in the one state that doesn’t allow concealed carry (also DC). Again a bow to state’s rights.
I’d be interested in knowing which of our current candidates would sign this bill if it made it to their desks. So far, I think Herman Cain is the only one who has indirectly indicated he would veto this bill. In April, talking at a campaign stop, he said that concealed carry was strictly a state issue, and the feds should have no say in the matter.
Yeah, Steny Hoyer the newly born one concerned about federalism!
Hawaii allows concealed carry — it’s only Iowa and DC that don’t.
All that aside, is it veto proof?
“California doesnt have a CC law?”
“This varies from county to county and from city to city. Rural counties are normally easier than suburban counties. Good Cause is the variable that applicants must deal with. Statute and case law require departments to make an individual evaluation of each applicants Good Cause. Some departments list on their policies certain professions and occupations that under some circumstances will satisfy their Good Cause requirements.”
In other words, sort of...
Its Illinois you’re thinking of not Iowa
CA, NY, NJ, MD, MA and RI are all may issue states. Their permit systems are arbitrary and corrupt. In general, in those states, its easier to get a permit in a rural jurisdiction than in an urban one. Rural jurisdictions in may issue states are effectively shall issue in practice.
As it stands, reciprocity is decent and getting better. We don't need this.
Dang, I thought it was for all states.
Wow. I am waiting for all those freepers from the drug thread to come and condemn this legislation for interfering with the state right to legalize any damned thing it wants, because the Bill of Rights doesn’t apply to the states.
Should I hold my breath waiting for them??
I’ve got all the gun “rights” I need from the 1st Continental Congess, the US Constitution’s 2nd Amendment and my USMC pledge to my betters to refuse to crawl before any Nazi leftist, telling me what my gun “rights” might be.
How about this, you chicken-livered RINOs in the US House: Give me back Edison’s lightbulb.
You poodle-kissing, pants-wetting RINOs PROMISED to bring up legislation to repeal this stupid law. How about you gutless wonders start attacking the eco-fascists and give me my lightbulb.
Gad, I hate spineless Republican worms. Screw you, Republican Nancy-boys.
You are right, Illinois not Iowa....
True. MA is probably most corrupt, though. They issue by contribution. The bigger, the faster you get the License.
The right to keep and bare your butt shall NOT be infringed.
I think it is guaranteed somewhere in the Constitution.
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Iowa is a “shall issue” state.
We can and do carry.
Illinois is the state that doesn’t recognize the 2A.
Iowa does allow concealed carry - if you are visiting it is all right to have a Utah permit there. They also are now a shall issue state and this was a very short time ago.
I’m trying to find out how my Congressmen voted, but can’t find it on Thomas. Anyone have the vote details?
I found it:
However, what happened to Rob Woodall? My girlfriend's family is in that Georgia district. It's a conservative area and he voted no. I got some phone calls to make tomorrow.
There is an enormous difference between saying that states cannot restrict your rights, and saying that states have the power to restrict your rights. You are equating the two. They are opposites.
States have powers. Individuals have rights. They are not the same.