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Penn Police: McQueary Never Told Us Jack [Sandusky]
TMZ ^ | 11/16/11 | Staff

Posted on 11/16/2011 5:14:30 PM PST by BunnySlippers

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1 posted on 11/16/2011 5:14:32 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: BunnySlippers

Not a Happy Valley, now.


2 posted on 11/16/2011 5:18:45 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: BunnySlippers

Yeah. And if he did and the cops did nothing, the cops would be equally culpable. Nobody can be believed here.

But hey, let’s pay attention because it will create jobs, won’t it?

Strictly a distraction for anyone other than the participants.


3 posted on 11/16/2011 5:20:25 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Madoff screwed the rich. Bernanke screwed us all.)
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To: BunnySlippers
A Clinton-style non-denial denial. They say they don't have a record, which isn't quite the same as saying he never talked to them. Paperwork has a way of disappearing.
4 posted on 11/16/2011 5:22:00 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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5 posted on 11/16/2011 5:22:32 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: BunnySlippers

Nothing “on the record,” they mean.
They probably called Joe Pa for guidance on that.


6 posted on 11/16/2011 5:22:43 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

I’m a firm believer that people can walk and chew gum at the same time.

I am interested in job creation AND PEDOPHELIA at the same time.


7 posted on 11/16/2011 5:22:45 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Just for the record, In your headline it’s Penn State Police not Penn Police

Maybe a correction by the Mods is in order?


8 posted on 11/16/2011 5:22:55 PM PST by Helotes
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To: abb

The cops are in on the coverup.


9 posted on 11/16/2011 5:24:31 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: abb

I can’t speak for McQueary or Paterno or the others ... but if I went to the police and said I walked into the gym and hear the “slap-slap” of sexual activity and saw Sandusky abusing the boy ... then I waited weeks, months and years with nothing happening, I would take it higher.


10 posted on 11/16/2011 5:25:51 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: dfwgator

I totally agree.


11 posted on 11/16/2011 5:26:55 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

If the D.A. was working on the case back in the 90’s and ended up missing in action, don’t you think that the police were somehow and sometime during that period called in to investigate the case? Wouldn’t they be brought into working the case at the same time the D.A. was actively involveda? Don’t you think the Board of Trustees for Penn State when this D.A. was working on the case, would be notified that there is a potential child molester working in the Atlectic Dept? Also wouldn’t you think that at that time Sandusky’s name would be on the police’s radar. Why wasn’t he being carefully watched at that time?


12 posted on 11/16/2011 5:27:20 PM PST by classified
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To: BunnySlippers

Whoever ends up in charge of this investigation sure has their work cut out for them. Don’t know if anybody can be believed.


13 posted on 11/16/2011 5:27:42 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: dfwgator
Probably ~ imagine what was going on ~ this guy was attacking children in the athletic department shower rooms.

These are not exactly public thoroughfares but there are presumably athletes going in and out of the showers from practice sessions all day long!

So why did this guy think he could get away with the practice?

One conclusion is everybody else he encountered was of the same inclination.

14 posted on 11/16/2011 5:28:08 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: dfwgator

Yep...


15 posted on 11/16/2011 5:28:22 PM PST by stormer
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To: BunnySlippers
The poor dummy has finally realized he has to work for a living in the future. His days of playing grab ass in the locker room are over just like his former boss.
16 posted on 11/16/2011 5:30:40 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: muawiyah

At least for the attack witnessed by McQueary, it was long after anyone would normally have been around: 9:30 PM. The locker room was dark, and McQueary noticed the lights on in the showers, which was unusual.


17 posted on 11/16/2011 5:33:03 PM PST by hellbender
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To: classified
Joe called people in the state capitol and told them to get the cops off his ass. The man thought to the end he ruled the place. He said he would leave on his own terms, so they had to fire his ass. That is how politics works.
18 posted on 11/16/2011 5:37:29 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: BunnySlippers

As I look across the room at my 10 year old son, I guarantee that we’d be talking about Sandusky in past tense and I would be proud to accept the legal rammifications.

I’m suprised a father hasn’t already shot him with buckshot right between the legs and left to bleed out in agony.


19 posted on 11/16/2011 5:43:12 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: Helotes

The OP used the actual headline from the source (misleading as it is), which is in accordance with the FR rules.


20 posted on 11/16/2011 5:45:00 PM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: classified

See post 11


21 posted on 11/16/2011 5:45:52 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Helotes

I went to the link and that’s how it’s titled there. But the article itself doesn’t help much. It refers to the “Penn State campus police OR the State College PD”. I didn’t realize they had two police departments on campus.


22 posted on 11/16/2011 5:47:56 PM PST by Shannon
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To: BunnySlippers
Why McQueary stayed at Penn State after the 2002 incident strikes me as strange. In 2002, as a graduate assistant working on Joe Paterno's staff, McQueary witnesses Jerry Sandusky raping a 10-year old boy. McQueary freaks out, and calls his father. He waits until the next day to tell Joe Paterno. Ten days later he spoke to other Penn State officials.

As a result of anally raping a 20-year old in the Penn State locker room, Paterno takes Sandusky's locker room keys.

McQueary continues to work for the Penn State athletic department and after graduating from graduate school becomes an administrative assistant for the football program. A year later, in 2004, McQueary is hired onto Joe Paterno's staff as the wide receivers coach.

The NCAA limits the number of assistant coaches a football team can have. Most of the time graduate assistants move on to assistant coaching jobs at smaller Division 1AA or Division 2 schools. Will Muschamp went from Auburn as a grad assistant to Division 2 West Georgia as an assistant coach.

One would think McQueary would just want to get the Hell out of Happy Valley for a few years. Instead, he became another participant in the ongoing Sandusky cover-ups.

I smell a payoff: "Just keep quiet Mike, and you'll be on the staff as soon as job opens up."

I also think Sandusky will go nuclear when things get bad. He will sell all kinds of dirt on the Penn State program to pay his legal bills.

23 posted on 11/16/2011 5:49:56 PM PST by magellan
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To: classified
If the D.A. was working on the case back in the 90’s and ended up missing in action, don’t you think that the police were somehow and sometime during that period called in to investigate the case?

Gricar, the DA who elected not to prosecute Sandusky in 1998 didn't disappear until April 15, 2005. It was two weeks after he'd announced that an investigation had cracked a major drug ring. And he may have committed suicide by drowning, as he car was found at a riverside. His brother previously committed suicide by drowning.

Gricar allegedly dislike Penn State and Penn State football and held a grudge. He may have had good reason not prosecute Sandusky, as Victim #6 was never sexually abused by Sandusky, only hugged, which is wrong but not necessarily illegal - and we don't know what else Gricar was able to find out about Sandusky. He may have felt people were holding out on the investigators. And he may have felt that Sandusky's position and Penn State's power kept people from talking.

But Gricar didn't disappear until almost exactly seven years after the phone calls that triggered the Victim #6 investigation, and most than six years after Gricar decided not to prosecute.

24 posted on 11/16/2011 5:52:57 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I stand for something; therefore, I can't stand Romney)
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To: Shannon

Well, Penn is not the same as Penn State


25 posted on 11/16/2011 5:53:19 PM PST by Helotes
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To: magellan

I think he kills himself ...; unless the tell all is explosive.


26 posted on 11/16/2011 5:53:30 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Scoutmaster

Okay but wouldn’t the Police be involved are somehow notified about Victim#6 which would put Sandusky’s name on the police radar at that time? Certainly if McQueary notifies the police on a second case wouldn’t or shouldn’t that register BIGTIME on the police’s radar?


27 posted on 11/16/2011 5:58:57 PM PST by classified
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To: BunnySlippers

So now the question is, did he really talk to anybody about it? How do we know who he actually told, and who he didn’t, if he keeps saying he told people and they keep saying he didn’t?


28 posted on 11/16/2011 5:59:36 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Hammerhead

Thinking the same thing about Sandusky walking around.


29 posted on 11/16/2011 6:08:12 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I think the whole idea now is to create massive confusion for all so that those who have been and are covering this thing up have all the more time to dig in deeper....some will run away I think if they haven’t already. But we won’t be reading about them...me thinks allota cash is going to cross palms....


30 posted on 11/16/2011 6:12:13 PM PST by caww
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To: abb

yup. There’s a data destroyer dude on the board of the Second Mile. It’s his specialty.


31 posted on 11/16/2011 6:16:41 PM PST by petitfour
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To: hellbender
Varsity showers perhaps?

Some of these schools have athletic/sports centers that run 24/7.

32 posted on 11/16/2011 6:17:10 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: magellan
Paterno takes Sandusky's locker room keys.

Actually, Curley and Schultz told McQueary they were taking Sandusky's keys to the showers. Paterno was missing from the equation.

And given that molestations of the eight victims apparently occurred in the Lasch building showers (including the 2002 anal rape) and the "East Area Locker Room" next to Holuba Hall (for example, Victim #5; I don't the East Area Locker Room is the Lasch Building), I'm not certain they got all of Sandusky's keys.

33 posted on 11/16/2011 6:17:58 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I stand for something; therefore, I can't stand Romney)
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To: BunnySlippers

The whole thing smells Clintonish. Paterno transfers the ownership of his house to his wife for $1 in July while the grand jury is investigating. Ass’t coach said he contacted the police but they have no “record” on file. My guess is that the whole athletic staff, local police, Penn State Administration, big alumni bunch, Two Mile management and a good percentage of Happy Valley are in on it and covering it up!


34 posted on 11/16/2011 6:18:57 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: abb
A Clinton-style non-denial denial. They say they don't have a record, which isn't quite the same as saying he never talked to them. Paperwork has a way of disappearing.

Sandusky asserts he has no record of molesting any boys. I guess that wraps it up.

35 posted on 11/16/2011 6:18:59 PM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: BunnySlippers

The cover up gets murkier.


36 posted on 11/16/2011 6:19:26 PM PST by Iron Munro (Ben Raines For President)
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To: BunnySlippers

The whole thing stinks.

This coverup his some shrewd directors, I suspect.


37 posted on 11/16/2011 6:20:40 PM PST by bvw
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They can’t keep it wrapped. The other higher ed institutions in PA are competing for survival in a time of extremely tight budgets. They’ll attack on all fronts, and some inner players will seek refuge within a different college town and establishment.

The Gay Mafia has a lot of money and power to toss around, but times they are a changing.


38 posted on 11/16/2011 6:24:03 PM PST by bvw
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To: magellan
MCQeary, is the one that will tell all, he does not have the assets of the other queers, and he has no future in football, they may let him work as a grounds keeper if he changes his name.
39 posted on 11/16/2011 6:24:21 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Well, Paterno himself said that he was told that Sandusky and the victim were “horsing around”. But denies he was ever told there was sexual activity.

First off, I wish everyone involved would stop using the antiquated and arcane “horsing around” and tell us what that really means.

And, Paterno just retained legal counsel in case ‘horsing around” means “we don’t want to admit what Sandusky’s doing.


40 posted on 11/16/2011 6:27:55 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: dfwgator

They’re all covering their asses. Fact: Some how a Center County (Where PSU main campus is located) Grand Jury was convened and heard the evidence. For the Campus Police, State College Police and/or PA State to try to claim they did not know about it is as credible as Sandusky’s denying he did anything wrong.


41 posted on 11/16/2011 6:35:57 PM PST by dools0007world
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To: BunnySlippers

Some have already conjectured the judge who awared the no money bond—and who was a volunteer at Sandusky’s foundation—did so in the hope he would kill himself.

He may do that yet. But I think his being told by Paterno he would not succeed him as head coach may drive him to revenge first. Once he realizes he can’t just blow this off he will give up all his secrets. Unless some party or parties insure he cannot do so.

I think there may be some very powerful and rich people involved here. Is there a murderer among them? Time will tell.


42 posted on 11/16/2011 6:46:40 PM PST by dools0007world
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To: BunnySlippers

Is anyone else wondering why Mike McQueary hasn’t been fired already?


43 posted on 11/16/2011 7:11:56 PM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: BunnySlippers

You might want to reword that last sentence. :)


44 posted on 11/16/2011 7:12:15 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: BunnySlippers

Paterno DID say that he was told the contact was sexual. From the Grand Jury Presentment:

“Joseph V. Paterno testified to receiving the graduate assistant’s report at his home on a Saturday morning. Paterno testified that the graduate assistant was very upset. Patemo called Tim Curley (“Curley”), Penn State Athletic Director and Patemo’s immediate superior, to his home the very next day, a Sunday, and reported to him that the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy.”


45 posted on 11/16/2011 7:12:33 PM PST by Toskrin
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Nobody can be believed here.

You're right.

46 posted on 11/16/2011 7:13:51 PM PST by ladyjane
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That is a puzzler to me, too.

I'm guessing he's getting immunity from the DA in return for his eye-witness testimony in open court. That's why there is no mention of arresting him.

Penn St. may be keeping him on staff to keep his mouth shut about all the other people who knew about Sandusky & for how long. It could gut the athletics dept.

It has been mentioned here that Penn St. has a very liberal attitude toward queers. It is likely that there has been far more going on in the showers & steam rooms - staff on staff, & staff on student, than just Sandusky. All those sweaty, half-naked bodies .... McQueary & others could probably write a very long book.

It wouldn't take much reporting of this to make Penn St. look like a cheap San Francisco bathhouse. That could bring the entire school down.

I do not envy the new president of Penn St. There must be an awful lot of his employees who know everything about the perversions in the athletics dept. & elsewhere in the system. If he starts firing every employee who knew about Sandusky & beyond, the tabloids are gonna have a bumper crop of tips, stories, & people wanting their 15 minutes of fame, & CASH.

47 posted on 11/16/2011 7:54:27 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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Yep. There was another guy who came out today saying he was sexually abused by some professor there. He went to the administration about it and they refused to even listen to the guy, let alone investigate anything! And this guy has the professor on tape admitting it!


48 posted on 11/16/2011 8:12:48 PM PST by battletank
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Time to water board Sandusky and find out what he knows and when he knew it. JoePa also.
49 posted on 11/16/2011 9:22:01 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: Hammerhead
As I look across the room at my 10 year old son, I guarantee that we’d be talking about Sandusky in past tense and I would be proud to accept the legal ramifications.

Same here, I've got a terrific 12 year old son and nobody better mess with him. I remember from years ago how the father on this video handled the pervert that kidnapped and molested his son:

Father of Kidnapped Son gets Revenge

Jury gave the father 5 years probation.

50 posted on 11/16/2011 9:30:38 PM PST by Reagan is King
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