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The Peak Oil Crisis: Transitioning to Cold Fusion
Falls Church News Press ^ | Nov 16 2011 | Tom Whipple

Posted on 11/16/2011 10:23:18 PM PST by Kevmo

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To: Johnny B.

I’ve been following the research that comes out of Miskoic University for years. For my money, they do the very best of work in the Lovecraft Mythos.


81 posted on 11/18/2011 6:48:57 AM PST by Mycroft Holmes (Returned for regrooving...)
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To: 4FreeSpeach

I’ll go one step further - there is no credible independent verification of *any* of the Ecat results.

That doesn’t mean they are false, but it does mean that this is not science we are seeing, but marketing.

Since there is no independent verification looking at Rossi’s history and character is intelligent. Rossi personally fails my credibility test.


82 posted on 11/18/2011 7:09:54 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Johnny B.

I don’t recall Szabo being one of those guys to explain. Notably, you did not explain any of them.


83 posted on 11/18/2011 8:03:34 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Kevmo

You have no clue about skepticism or the scientific method.


84 posted on 11/20/2011 12:57:39 PM PST by dinodino
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To: Kevmo

That stuff about a control run somehow ruining the device is a bunch of crap. Rossi could, and should, do a control run without injecting any gas at all. I’m beginning to think this Jed is in on the scam.


85 posted on 11/20/2011 1:01:36 PM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino

You have no clue about skepticism or the scientific method.
***You have no clue about how to proceed inductively.
That article describes you rather perfectly.


86 posted on 11/20/2011 8:10:34 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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87 posted on 11/20/2011 8:11:06 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: dinodino

That stuff about a control run somehow ruining the device is a bunch of crap.
***I don’t think so. But it’s simple enough to do a control run without the powder if that is the case.

You mean this part of his post, right?

Yup. There is another huge practical problem with doing a blank run.
Injecting nitrogen, air or some other gas into the powder will probably
contaminate and destroy the powder. This is a problem because of powder is
expensive and difficult to fabricate. It is also a problem because after
you contaminate it, you could not produce heat from it. You would have to
produce heat first, then do your destructive blank run.

This is like demanding that Mr. Ford first demonstrate that his Model T can
drive at 40 mph, then he must demonstrate that when you crash it into a
brick wall at 40 mph, it is destroyed and cannot drive at any speed after
that.


88 posted on 11/20/2011 8:14:44 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Kevmo

Completely ridiculous assertion on Jed’s part. Like I said, do the control run WITHOUT injecting gas at all. However, since Rossi claims this thing will cost pennies to fill up, I don’t see why injecting some other gas and possibly wasting powder on a test run is a problem.


89 posted on 11/21/2011 1:05:48 AM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino

Completely ridiculous assertion on Jed’s part. Like I said, do the control run WITHOUT injecting gas at all. However, since Rossi claims this thing will cost pennies to fill up, I don’t see why injecting some other gas and possibly wasting powder on a test run is a problem.
***You have no concept of economies of scale. When I worked for a well-known semiconductor company, we had maybe 10 prototype samples of a chip that ultimately would sell for less than 60cents apiece. But those prototype samples were worth far more than 60 cents. Also, at that time, trying to prove some scientific point is far down the list of priorities.


90 posted on 11/21/2011 6:55:36 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Kevmo

I understand completely! First of all, Rossi has enough powder to make and refuel the 1 MW unit he “sold,” right? He couldn’t spare a bit of powder to run a test with a small unit?

Second: I reject the idea that exposure to air somehow ruins the powder. Are Rossi’s reactor cores air-tight and shipped pre-purged with hydrogen? I rather doubt it!

The whole thing is ridiculous. At best, Rossi is an inept alchemist who has no idea how his invention works; at worst, he’s a con artist.


91 posted on 11/21/2011 7:03:39 PM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino

He couldn’t spare a bit of powder to run a test with a small unit?
***How does that help him? Would he end up selling more units that way? He’s the one who owns the technology, so how he chooses to bring it to market is his business. There is no patent protection outside of Italy.


92 posted on 11/21/2011 7:13:37 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Kevmo

You are not thinking clearly. Rossi held these semi-public tests to prove his machine works, right? A control test would have added a lot of credibility.


93 posted on 11/21/2011 7:26:56 PM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino

You are not thinking clearly. Rossi held these semi-public tests to prove his machine works, right?
***Not necessarily. He originally said there would be zero or very few public tests, but he relented when Focardi asked him to do some. Focardi is in ill health and craves the recognition due to him.

A control test would have added a lot of credibility.
***I don’t think credibility was high on his list of concerns.


94 posted on 11/21/2011 8:27:04 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Kevmo
***I don’t think credibility was high on his list of concerns.
That's good, because Rossi doesn't have any credibility at all.
95 posted on 11/22/2011 3:51:59 AM PST by dinodino
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