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Abramoff accuses Newt Gingrich of 'corruption.' Really.
Politico ^ | 11/16/11 | MAGGIE HABERMAN

Posted on 11/16/2011 11:34:29 PM PST by federal__reserve

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61 posted on 11/17/2011 11:49:32 AM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: federal__reserve

First you limit time that congress is in session then you pass laws that make it a felony to take any money, gifts rides, ticket anything that you did not pay for. Then outlaw lobbyist in Washington D. C.!!!!! Oh yea make it a felony to buy or sell stock while in congress!!!


62 posted on 11/17/2011 12:20:03 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: federal__reserve

The cleanest way to eliminate government corruption is to limit the length of time anyone can serve in the House and the Senate. Many State gov’ts do this why not the Feds? It certainly would cut out the lifetime benefits.


63 posted on 11/17/2011 12:24:14 PM PST by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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To: Maryhere

Agreed! Term limits will be very effective in draining the swamp. Although the presidents benefit quite handsomely in spite of being term limited.

If the tax laws are simple, such as a flat tax with no deductions and no loopholes, there is absolutely nothing the lobbyists have left to lobby for.

And of course bail outs & earmarks are other two twin hydra’s which breed corruption.


64 posted on 11/17/2011 1:32:14 PM PST by federal__reserve (What matters in 2012 is jobs, jobs, jobs! Jobs kill unemployment, foreclosures & deficits)
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To: tallyhoe
First you limit time that congress is in session

That would indeed be most helpful. Congress should be in regular session no more than 2 months of a year.

Then you pass laws that make it a felony to take any money, gifts rides, ticket anything that you did not pay for. Then outlaw lobbyist in Washington D. C.!!!!! Oh yea make it a felony to buy or sell stock while in congress!!!

NO! Stop with laws, laws, laws. Laws don't make people honest. The proof is what we have today -- thousands-times of more laws and regulations than prior generations and yet our elites are overrun by dishonesty and self-dealing.

65 posted on 11/17/2011 1:43:05 PM PST by bvw
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To: federal__reserve
Newts got it coming to him, lotsa baggage this boy’z got.

He Newt it when he got into this race, he’z no dummy.

Newt is a big government globalist through and through. A political animal rife with shady happenings and grey area dealings.

I also viewed a video years ago in which Newt was down in Mexico, speaking to a crowd in fluent Spanish, promising immigration reform.

66 posted on 11/17/2011 2:34:44 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: federal__reserve

What does this article keep getting “bumped up” the BREAKING News sidebar?

WTH cares what Abramoff and Politico-Democrats say? Now since Newt is polling well, people suddenly want to talk about Frannie/Freddie.

That is rich.


67 posted on 11/17/2011 2:45:35 PM PST by JerseyDvl (Sometimes the road less traveled.... is less traveled for a reason.)
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To: JerseyDvl

Whenever anything breaks, people will talk about it. Why do you think they were talking about sexual harassment a while back?


68 posted on 11/17/2011 3:10:50 PM PST by federal__reserve (What matters in 2012 is jobs, jobs, jobs! Jobs kill unemployment, foreclosures & deficits)
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To: servantboy777
Although I agree with everything you said, there is one thing I like about Newt. He would be the best in debates with Obama. I am supporting who ever is the nominee in the general election against Obama.
69 posted on 11/17/2011 3:14:28 PM PST by federal__reserve (What matters in 2012 is jobs, jobs, jobs! Jobs kill unemployment, foreclosures & deficits)
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To: Blado

IMO, lump all of the GOP candidates faults into one person and we have Barrack Hussein Obama Sotoroe.


70 posted on 11/17/2011 3:22:22 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: federal__reserve

Near as I can tell Abramoff has no specifics on Newt and he is just talking in generalities. So far all talk from Abramoff.


71 posted on 11/17/2011 5:44:05 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: bvw

These are only laws that apply to congress and the Prez nobody else!!!!! Lobbyist should be outlawed and make it a felony to take a bribe.... Felony for insider trading!!! Period.. No if ands or buts congress has been getting away with this outlandish behavior way too long.. They are above the law!!! Ask them...


72 posted on 11/17/2011 8:14:39 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: federal__reserve

Abramoff reminds me of a a dried-out drunkard who rants at anyone who likes to have a drink. Both seek redemption by becoming insufferable scolds. I recommend steering clear of such characters. Most of us have a decent level of self-control and don’t need lectures on morality from characters who’ve only just picked themselves out from the slop, and are anxious to acquire a veneer of righteousness by berating others.


73 posted on 11/17/2011 10:05:57 PM PST by eater-of-toast ("It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones." --Calvin Coolidge)
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To: federal__reserve

“The cleanest way to eliminate all corruption is to make the tax code SIMPLE, and with no loop holes. Then the lobbyists lose their entire usefulness.”

Yes indeed, that is called draining the swamp, cleaning up the cess pool in this case literally.

Democrats would have us attempt to go after & attack each and every lobbies with a law or amendment. If that were possible it would have worked when we did have laws against theses things.

It is not possible for goverment to successfully go after each and every one who attempts to lobbies for 2 reasons:

1: Disinterest, As it happens not only are Goverment political not inanely interested in honestly prosecuting their bread & butter, so too is the bureaucrats that “work for politicians”.

2: There are an infinite number of lobbyist and a finite number of federal courts, prosecutors, and watch dogs with an even more finite supply public attention to keep the same honest(due to issue #1). No sooner could you catch one then 50 more will pop up else where.

You either drain the swamp or they who are native to the swamp will rule the swamp.


74 posted on 11/17/2011 10:07:05 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: tennmountainman
You are correct, Ten. Google "The Tipping Point." This report was given to the World Bank that shows how onces a country's debt to GDP ratio exceeds 77%, any expansion by the Gov. causes a corresponding contraction in the private sector.

Second is the derivative bubble (most conservative estimates peg it at $200 Trillion). When that pops, a lot of houses built on sand will come tumbling down.

The next President will reside over a financial graveyard. It's important that we pick someone with vision, initiative, and a thorough understanding of what made America great and our founding documents - so that we all don't go running into the arms of some communist hybrid in the future.

75 posted on 11/17/2011 10:23:35 PM PST by TheWriterTX (Rock you like a Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Melchior

It is amazing how uncoordinated some FR posters are about pressing the Post button more than once.

And what did Newt say in his six annual six-page reports to Freddie Mac, Mr. Inside Washington?


76 posted on 11/17/2011 10:56:28 PM PST by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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To: tallyhoe

That’s true. And such laws which exempt classes of citizens from this or that law, imho, violate the “general welfare” clause of the Constitution.

Our Constitution also has in it the term “corruption of blood”: by parallel formulation we are unwise to ennoble a class.


77 posted on 11/18/2011 3:56:25 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

You mean like Reid Pelosi Obama The Three Amigos?


78 posted on 11/18/2011 10:27:49 PM PST by tallyhoe
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