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Hensarling says GOP is willing to consider new Dem tax proposals
The Hill ^ | 11/16/11 | Russell Berman

Posted on 11/17/2011 9:13:36 AM PST by Qbert

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To: Qbert

Are the Republicans suicidal as well as stupid?

Republicans being stupid is an (unfortunately) oft-proved fact, given that they get snookered about 90% of the time by the Dems. You see, they think that politics is played by some set of gentlemen’s rules, when there is only one rule: WIN!

Suicidal, because millions that voted for Republican candidates in 2010 did so because of the explicit promise made to control the government. The only control that means anything is to limit its spending, and that also means starving it of revenue as much as possible to limit the spending. If they go back on their word by voting for a tax increase, then why in the world should anyone vote for them? At least the Dems are honest - they tell you in advance that they want to tax and regulate you nearly to death, and then to take as much money out of your pockets as possible before your family gets anything. Why vote for a 2-faced party that lies to your face and insults you by repeatedly claiming that “next time we’ll REALLY put the screws to them?”

In a 2-party system, one party is the opposition. What is the point of being the opposition party if you’re not going to, you know, ACTUALLY OPPOSE the party in power? Sometimes that means defeat and being pilloried in the press, and sometimes even not being invited to fashionable parties in Georgetown. I know that such is a heavy burden to bear </overwhelming sarcasm>, but that’s the whole damned point of being the opposition.

Seriously, I expect the Republican Party to give the finger to Obama and the Dems, to give them literally NOTHING, and to squawk loudly to the citizens of this country about how the Dems WANT a Super Committee failure so as to blame the Republicans. We have a genuine fiscal/economic crisis, and the Dems are just playing politics and preventing any realistic solutions. The Republicans shouldn’t cooperate (i.e. be useless idiots for the Dems), even if it costs them some brownie points with the rest of the inside-the-Beltway scumbags that have sold out our nation for power and money. Resistance is NOT futile - and the failure to resist WILL lose you LOTS of votes.


21 posted on 11/17/2011 9:41:25 AM PST by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: fatnotlazy

“Thanks Republicans for caving in. Just what we elected you for.”

The morons don’t understand that it’s not the Democrats that they are negotiating with here- it’s everyday Americans. Instead of crawling on their knees begging Obama not to raise taxes in 2013- the GOP needs to take that case to the people:

Taxes will shoot up dramatically when the Bush tax rates are repealed- and this isn’t simply “millionaires and billionaires”- this is you, “middle-class” Americans living paycheck to paycheck. You get to pay for all of the trillions wasted on loan guarantees to donor billionaires, etc. We don’t want this to happen- Obama and the Dems do... So, are you with us, or not?


22 posted on 11/17/2011 9:41:38 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

Please understand that the Dems can never allow spending cuts. That would be suicide for them. If there were real spending cuts then we would see that the world did not come to an end. Then we could go for more spending cuts. No the Dems will never allow this camel nose into the tent.


23 posted on 11/17/2011 9:48:42 AM PST by HChampagne
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To: Qbert

HEY JEB, YEAH YOU! What in the Hensarling are you doing?

If you say that you “ - - - would consider higher tax revenues to win a supercommittee deal - - - “, then what in the Hensarling are you CONSERVING?

ANYONE who raises taxes is guilty of DESTROYING money!

IF you want to cave-in and be a part of the Bipartisian Cave-in movement that has ALWAYS sold America down the river, then you no longer are conserving a damn thing.

You will be just another RINO. No better than Romney, McCain and all the other Rockefeller Republicans.

BTW, we are not eating anymore of the “go-along-to-get-along” GOP-Poop any more. Stand and deliver with us, or we will stand against you.


24 posted on 11/17/2011 9:48:53 AM PST by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: MachIV
‘the ballot box has become a worthless lost cause.’

I disagree.
The Republican Party, however, is trying to become a worthless lost cause.
We may be seeing a New Party arise.
TWB

25 posted on 11/17/2011 9:53:08 AM PST by TWhiteBear (Jobs, Peace, Food, Security .... Down with Obama(Peacefully))
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To: Brookhaven

“This could also be the GOP calling the Democrats’ bluff.”

There is no bluff-calling here.

Reagan was brilliant at bluff-calling (PATCO; Reyjavik, etc.)- this is operating solely out of cowardice and weakness with the GOP today.


26 posted on 11/17/2011 9:55:40 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

alas, we again reap the disasterous “fruits” of another rino republican compromise (i.e., boehner’s rule by oligarchy bill). complete divided government stalemate would have been far better.

is there anyone who still thinks the republican collective establishment, in all it’s fearful spinning and thrashing, isn’t as bad or worse then the marxist driven dems?


27 posted on 11/17/2011 9:57:13 AM PST by dadfly
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To: Qbert
The TEA PARTY released their plan today... 10 TRILLION in cuts over ten years.. bye bye obamacare... 10 Federal agencies go kaput... I mean THAT is the plan that we need... but the republicans are no better than the dims... progressive elite power mongers all.

LLS

28 posted on 11/17/2011 10:00:36 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: Brookhaven

The gop is NOT smart... so you can eliminate that line of thought.

LLS


29 posted on 11/17/2011 10:03:06 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: ZULU
boehner and cantor are cutting these deals weeks in advance of us finding out. our leadership is in total agreement and is conspiring with the dims to bring about socialism... while putting a knife through the heart of our republic and its Constitution. Hell... the super committee is unconstitutional on its face... prime example number one... the republicons know EXACTLY what they are doing... they did it to us on Cut, Cap and Balance.

LLS

30 posted on 11/17/2011 10:07:42 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Regretfully, I agree with you. The GOP leadership is gutless and useless except as useful tools of the far left Democrats.

We either need to take over the party or start a new one. If Romney gets nominated, its time for another new party.


31 posted on 11/17/2011 10:12:39 AM PST by ZULU (Anybody but Romney or Huntsman)
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To: Qbert

“Republicans on Wednesday signaled they would consider higher tax revenues to win a supercommittee deal if Democrats offer deeper cuts to entitlement spending”

Well of course they will. Anything to appease the Democrats. Until we rid ourselves of the RINO leadership in the House and Senate the American public is SOL.


32 posted on 11/17/2011 10:38:54 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

"boehner and cantor are cutting these deals weeks in advance of us finding out. our leadership is in total agreement and is conspiring with the dims to bring about socialism... the republicons know EXACTLY what they are doing... they did it to us on Cut, Cap and Balance."

Yep- notice that the Hill article quoted Hensarling calling Obama last Friday... but there's absolutely no word about what Obama said in response??

33 posted on 11/17/2011 10:39:54 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Amen GG2!

LLS


34 posted on 11/17/2011 10:58:48 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: ZULU

I agree 1000%!

LLS


35 posted on 11/17/2011 10:59:29 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: NonValueAdded

“Those stupid, stupid fools”

Why are those Republicans in Congress who signal a willingness to increase taxes “fools”, when a leading contender for the Republican presidential nomination who supports an almost-ten-percent national sales tax across the board (and who is a favorite of many folks in this forum), not?

Why would a nine percent sales tax on everything I buy be good for me?

Or for the country?

Those are serious questions, soliciting serious answers...


36 posted on 11/17/2011 11:03:01 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide

Because it is a replacement for the current income tax that: 1) is lower 2) out in the open (not hidden in the costs) 3) can be mitigated by (not) buying and/or buying used. That does not sound foolish to me, that sounds like freedom.


37 posted on 11/17/2011 11:36:09 AM PST by i_robot73
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To: Qbert
The unconsitutional 'supercommittee' was meant for cover for the GOP to cave in on tax hikes.

So, GOP House members can vote against it, even though they know it will pass since it will take 75% of the House to kill it.

A disgrace!

38 posted on 11/17/2011 1:48:31 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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