Skip to comments.Santorum says Romney to the left of Obama on same-sex marriage
Posted on 11/17/2011 11:11:19 AM PST by Antoninus
Rick Santorum on Monday accused GOP presidential rival Mitt Romney of being more liberal on gay marriage than President Barack Obama.
Santorum, a former senator from Pennsylvania, made his remarks during an interview on Laura Ingraham's radio show.
When Ingraham asked Romney's stance on a proposed bill that would repeal the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), Santorum answered: I would argue that Mitt Romney, as governor of Massachusetts, was to the left of Barack Obama on the issue of gay marriage.
DOMA is the 1996 law that bars federal agencies and the military from recognizing the legal marriages of gay and lesbian couples.
If you want to see the contrast, the contrast is there. [I'm a] solid conservative who fought for the federal marriage amendment as opposed to Mitt Romney, who issued gay marriage licenses and actually violated the constitution of Massachusetts to institute gay marriage in his state, he said.
One of the reasons I do talk about the past is because I have the best record in the field, he added. (The audio is embedded in right panel of this page.)
As governor of the first state to legalize gay marriage in 2004, Romney granted special waivers that allowed a non-clergy individual to solemnize a marriage. The One Day Marriage Designation is not a marriage license. However, applicants must include the name, address and date of birth of the couple he/she wishes to marry.
ping for your list wagglebee if you do not mind.
when the homosexual agenda come to a vote in any state then the people vote against it.
Now why the hell do some though I think it is more libertarians say do not mention social issues, we should.
The family , laws and schools are being destroyed in order to let cross dressing freaks and homosexuals have their special rights.
It is a conservative position and none of us should shy away from it or be cowardly.
As for the media, ARF, even the phony conservatives like Hannity are liberal on social issues and do you notice how he and other cowardly or liberal phony’s never mention social issues?
“On Top Magazine”?! Yuch.
The 2004 backing for Specter notwithstanding, I do wish Santorum could’ve gotten some traction in this campaign. He’s dead-on about Romney here... unfortunately, America seems to have moved to far to the left of Rick Santorum to give him a good look.
Santorum’s problems are not his political positions. He just is not telegenic at all and comes across poorly. He either looks pissed, or smug, or sweaty. In person, he is quite different.
romney is to the left of obama on a lot more than this.
on healthcare he invented obamacare. on global warming, as a technocrat, he actually *believes* what the dems and obama know privately is a hoax to enable their implementation of the administrative state and fund their leftist “green” allies.
Santorum is right.
And Romney is even with Obama on healthcare and the 2nd ammendment.
You could be right but I think a lot of Americans really just don't give a damn about some social issues, especially when they don't have a paycheck.
You could be right but I think a lot of Americans really just don't give a damn about some social issues, especially when they don't have a paycheck.
Romney is the liberal sacrificial lamb being crammed down the throats of republican voters. If the RINO establishment gets there way, Obama will be reelected president of the United States. Romney’s liberal positions down the years are almost identical to Obama’s. He absolutely can not fire up the conservative base enough to beat Hussein Obama.
Romney is further left on every issue than he will admit in public.
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Mot only is Romney the “father of same sex marriage” in Massachusetts, he wooed the Log Cabin Republicans with promises he kept while governor. He made it law that judges must marry two men or two women in Massachusetts. Rather than trying to list them all here, get “Can Mitt Romney Serve Two Masters”. You will learn more than you want to know about his lies, his dirty business dealings, his flip flopping to get votes, and his faith. He is the White Horse in Joseph Smith’s “White Horse Prophecy””, which you can Google.
Romney is just as dangerous to America as Obama is!!
Although I think Romney has about as much chance winning the SC primary as a pig flying, Santorum should run a campaign ad over and over in the state telling the good conservatives of SC just how liberal Willard is. If Willard loses Iowa and SC, he will be on lifesupport. I still predict either Gingrich or Cain will carry SC. Willard needs to be stopped in Iowa.
Antoninus, you’re doing a good job.
I’m trying to stay ON TOP of this story, too.
ROMNEY and his supporters want to make an alliance with the social libs in order to “save the country from bankruptcy”. They are willing to make this deal in order to stop the out of control spending. So their agenda includes health care rationing, welfare reform, entitlement cuts.
Much of the liberal elite wealthy have signed on, thinking that fiscal responsibility is necessary. It’s the new ruling coalition to save us from bankruptcy. but the gay agenda and health care rationing are part of the bargain. Death panels.
Romney likes Death Panels.
Props to Santorum for laying into Mittens. I wish more candidates would!
First story is from the Huffington Post, which Hannity loves to quote all the time. Let’s see if he mentions this story. I doubt it. It’s three days old now and no one on Faux News has reported it.
Rick Santorum: Mitt Romney More Liberal On Gay Marriage Than Obama
Rick Santorum: Mitt Romney Is ‘To The Left’ Of President Obama ...
Romney of being more liberal than President Obama when it comes to. ...
Timeline Documents Romney’s Role in Creating Same-Sex “Marriages”
I. Mitt Romney demonstrates his commitment to homosexual “rights” before becoming Governor of Massachusetts in January 2003:
1994 Campaign vs. Ted Kennedy for U.S. Senate: Romney pledged he will provide more effective leadership than Kennedy on homosexual rights; endorsed by Log Cabin Republicans.
2000-2002: As head of Salt Lake City Olympic Committee, Romney banned Boy Scouts from participating.
2001 Called first citizens’ petition to define marriage too extreme and bigoted because it banned civil unions.
2002 Campaign for Governor: Romney makes promises to GLBT community, according to leading Boston homosexual newspaper; endorsed by homosexual activist Log Cabin Republicans.
II. Nov. 18, 2003 Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court (SJC) rules that same-sex marriage is protected in the Mass. Constitution, and gives the Legislature 180 days to act (Goodridge ruling).
Nov. 18, 2003 Romney responds to SJC ruling with four-sentence statement implicitly recognizing SJCs authority, says only remedy will be a constitutional amendment: I disagree with the Supreme Judicial Court. Marriage is an institution between a man and a woman. I will support an amendment to the Massachusetts Constitution to make that expressly clear. Of course, we must provide basic civil rights and appropriate benefits to nontraditional couples, but marriage is a special institution that should be reserved for a man and a woman.
Nov.-Dec. 2003 Romney reportedly working with Legislators promoting civil unions.
Jan. 2004 Romney silent on proposal to remove four SJC justices through Bill of Address (put forward by Article 8 Alliance / MassResistance).
Feb. 4, 2004 SJC tells Legislature that civil unions for same-sex couples will not satisfy its interpretation of the Mass. Constitution; only full-fledged marriage will do.
Feb. 5, 2004 Romney publishes editorial in Wall Street Journal laying all blame on the SJC for problem in Massachusetts. Suggests other states strengthen marriage statutes and pass constitutional amendments. Says dont attack gays, singles or non-traditional couples.
Feb. 2004 Justices of the Peace are told by their professional association they will be able to claim conscientious objector status and refuse to perform same-sex marriages — though this was never agreed to by Romney administration.
Feb.-May 2004 Pro-family leaders and columnists urge Romney to defy court, and issue Executive Order to block same-sex marriage; no public comment from Romney.
March 12, 2004 As Legislature postures on constitutional amendments, Romney continues to say amendment to Mass. Constitution is solution.
March 26, 2004 Word leaks out that Romneys Dept. of Public Health (DPH) and attorneys are planning training sessions for Town Clerks and preparing same-sex marriage licenses.
March 29, 2004 Romney tells Republicans in Mass. legislature to vote for Travaglini-Lees compromise amendment which would ban same-sex marriage but establish civil unions (and would not go to voters before Nov. 2006). Republican legislators had earlier opposed this amendment because of the civil unions clause, and it passed only due to their changed votes.
March 29-31, 2004 Romney seeks stay of SJC ruling until constitutional amendment issue is settled, but Atty. General Reilly refuses to take Governors case before SJC. [Did Romney believe that same court that issued Goodridge ruling would seriously consider his request for a stay?]
March 30, 2004 Romney says hell abide by the law of the land as it exists on May 17 and says he would not order town clerks to defy court edict. Romney says hed not explored the Constitution section giving him power over causes of marriage and whether it gives him any legal power to stop same-sex marriage (according to spokesman).
April 12, 2004 Romney spokesman says training sessions for town clerks will begin with plenty of room to spare before May 17. Ron Crews of Mass. Coalition for Marriage states hope for an Executive Order to halt the marriages.
April 15, 2004 Romney files emergency bill in Legislature to seek stay of SJC ruling, and is rebuffed and reprimanded by Senate President Travaglini.
April 15, 2004 Romneys DPH Registrar of Vital Records informs town clerks by letter of training sessions before SJC ruling becomes effective.
April 16, 2004 Romney announces his administration is scheduling training sessions for May 5-12 with licenses changed from husband/wife to Party A/Party B.
April 17, 2004 Mass. Dept. of Revenue (under Romney) declares SJC ruling the new law.
April 22, 2004 Romney does not comment on Rep. Goguen’s filing of Bill of Address for Article 8 Alliance/MassResistance to remove the 4 SJC judges, or Article 8s revelation of Chief Justice Marshalls violations of the Code of Judicial Conduct. (Marshall had appeared as keynote speaker at homosexual advocacy group dinner in 1999 advocated extension of rights for homosexuals, and failed to recuse herself from ruling on same-sex marriage though she had publicly expressed her bias.)
April 26, 2004 Romneys chief Legal Counsel, Daniel Winslow, issues directive to Justices of the Peace to resign (or be fired, fined, or sued) if they are unwilling to perform same-sex marriages (exact date not given on document).
April 29, 2004 Romney writes to 49 other Governors to inform them hell uphold section of Mass. marriage statutes banning same-sex marriages for out-of-state couples.
May 5-12, 2004 Town clerk training sessions held. [GLAD Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders — is only source on content of sessions; perhaps they were responsible for content?]
May 15, 2004 Romney issues proclamation: May 15 is Gay/Straight Youth Pride Day. Romneys Governors Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth events include parade, GLBT activism (with prominent transsexual radical activists), and a GLBT prom two days before same-sex marriages are to begin.
May 17, 2004 Same-sex marriages begin across Massachusetts. Romney issues brief statement: All along, I have said an issue as fundamental to society as the definition of marriage should be decided by the people. Until then, I intend to follow the law and expect others to do the same. [What law? Original marriage statutes clearly defining marriage as between a man and a woman were and are — still on the books, unchanged by the Legislature. So Romney is not enforcing the actual lawjust a court opinion.]
May 18, 2004 Romney begins enforcement of section of marriage statute banning out-of-state couples marrying in Mass. if that marriage would be illegal in their home state, while other intact sections of the marriage statute (man and woman) are ignored.
June 22, 2004 Romney testifies before US Senate Judiciary Committee for federal marriage amendment and blames Court for situation in Massachusetts.
Oct. 29, 2004 Romney signs new law eliminating blood test for STDs as requirement for marriage license (Ch. 388 of Acts of 2004). [Note: this is the only part of marriage statutes changed to satisfy demands of same-sex marriage]
Dec. 2004 Romney has no comment on bills filed by Article 8 Alliance / MassResistance for 2005-6 session: to remove four SJC judges; strengthen definition of marriage in statute; and declare same-sex marriages since May 17, 2004 null/void and without statutory basis.
Feb. 21, 2005 Romney makes speech before South Carolina Republicans, then is accused of flip-flopping on civil unions by homosexual lobby. Romney also negatively refers to demands by the homosexual activists that birth certificates be changed to read Parent A/Parent B (instead of father/mother), arguing he had no authority to make such a change [though he had no such qualms about changing the marriage license].
June 16, 2005 Romney joins VoteOnMarriage (VOM) amendment effort, which would recognize same-sex marriages prior to amendment taking effect, and not ban civil unions. (Romney says VOM is superior to the Travaglini-Lees compromise amendment.) Romney also announces support of VOMs proposed bill promoting partnership benefits for any couple wanting them (see Benefits Fairness Act filed Jan. 2006). Romney says hes opposed to removing the four SJC judges. Calls for a high degree of respect and tolerance for people whose lifestyle and choices and orientation is as they may choose.
July 22, 2005 Romney says only Legislature can change birth certificates from father/mother to Parent A/Parent B.
Sept. 14, 2005 Travaglini-Lees compromise amendment defeated in Legislature.
Nov. 2005 Romney tells Federalist Society that judiciary must be grounded in Constitution and law and precedents, and only the Legislature and people can change that base.
Jan. 2, 2006 Boston Globe reports Romney issued special Governors ceremonial marriage licenses to 189 same-sex couples in 2005 (including to homosexual activist state senator), claiming he did not refuse because he was evenly applying the statute. [Note: There is no new statute establishing same-sex marriage.]
Jan. 11, 2006 Romney files Benefits Fairness Act with VoteOnMarriage, which is roundly criticized by GLBT lobby, and shelved in Committee as late-filed bill.
March 10-14, 2006 Romney says laws require Catholic Charities not to discriminate against same-sex parents in its adoption placements [but theres only an administrative regulation]. He says same-sex couples have “a legitimate interest” in adopting children.
June 2, 2006 Romney sends letter to US Congress arguing for federal marriage amendment.
June 28, 2006 Romney urges Legislature to vote on VOM amendment, and addresses importance of following Constitution.
Sept. 30, 2006 Romney says he has to follow the law, and accept Mass. Superior Court ruling stating Rhode Island lesbian couple can marry in Massachusetts (following an earlier SJC ruling addressing Rhode Islands lack of prohibition of same-sex marriage).
Oct. 15, 2006 Romney addresses nationally broadcast Liberty Sunday (Family Research Council) event in Boston. Blames SJC for Mass. problems, says we need an outpouring of respect and tolerance for all people regardless of different choices they make, and as a nation we must reject discrimination and bigotry. Calls for support of federal marriage amendment.
Nov. 19, 2006 Romney holds rally on State House steps announcing hes delivering a copy of the Constitution to every Legislator who voted to recess the Constitutional Convention (to avoid the vote on the VOM amendment required by state Constitution). Romney also announces hes appealing to the courts. [But he says nothing about the SJC precedent of Dec. 20, 2002, ruling that the Legislature must vote in this situation, which already affirms that he should call Legislators back.]
Got this off the Weekly Standard website. So all the usual Faux news “contributors” know about it. Three days and counting and Faux has ignored it.
Oh oh! What kind of “wives” is he gonna have on that planet of his?
agreed and nail on head.
The left have used PC and the homosexual agenda to shut people up, it worked for many in the , sorry no it worked for all in the GOP and most on talk radio and pundits like Hannity.
It is high time that all talk radio, pundits on TV and the GOP stood firm and together to tell America what is right and what is going on today an dhow the left are closing down debate and trying to lose jobs for certain people
For some reason Ingraham's YouTube channel hasn't (yet?) posted the audio with Santorum from Monday.
YOU GO RICK!!!!
I like Rick Santorum. I wish he was doing better in the polls.
Yeah, I know. But it’s frustrating nonetheless. I’m not a Santorum guy per se, (So far, it looks like I’m in Cain’s camp) but he says a lot of good things that should be getting a heck of a lot more air time.
You can listen to the enire interview, if you wish, on LauraIngraham.com - it’s one of her freebies.
If anyone has trouble finding it, let me know, and I’ll post the link.
That’s right. Sen. Santorum deserves more support. I can’t understand why he only gets 1%
Because he is irritating and annoying.
I agree, plus, he doesn’t support Iran and OWS like Ron Paul does.
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