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Romney on Romneycare: ‘I Am Not Going to Walk Away From That’
National Review ^ | 2011-11-17 | Katrina Trinko

Posted on 11/17/2011 3:56:42 PM PST by rabscuttle385

Don’t expect Mitt Romney to backtrack on his Massachusetts health-care plan at any point this election cycle.

“I am sure there are many people who have calculated, and perhaps correctly, that the healthcare plan I put in place in Massachusetts is not good for me politically, and if I want to encourage my political future, I should say it was a mistake and walk away from it,” Romney told Fox Business Network host Neil Cavuto in an interview set to air later tonight.

“You have seen a lot of candidates look at their biggest vulnerability, call it a mistake, and ask for forgiveness,” Romney continued. “In my case that wouldn’t be honest.”

He affirmed that he believes the health-care program was the “right thing” for Massachusetts then, although he conceded that it hasn’t “worked perfectly.”

“If it hurts me politically, it’s a consequence of the truth,” Romney added. “I am not going to walk away from that. It’s right for states to come up with their own solutions. I doubt other people are going try and follow the one we put together. Maybe learn from our experience. Maybe come up with something better. But the wrong course is to have the federal government impose its will on the entire nation.”

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1 posted on 11/17/2011 3:56:45 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

Say good buy, Mittens.


2 posted on 11/17/2011 3:58:28 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385

My respect for Slick Willard just went up.

I expected him to try to disown it. Its good he’s sticking by it even if its not popular.

I don’t agree RomneyCare is a good thing ever but what I hate more is a politician who is a weathervane.

Mittens has that reputation. Overcoming it will be a tall order.


3 posted on 11/17/2011 4:00:01 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: rabscuttle385
He affirmed that he believes the health-care program was the “right thing” for Massachusetts then, although he conceded that it hasn’t “worked perfectly.”

Why go Romney when we already have 0bama in place?

4 posted on 11/17/2011 4:01:42 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: rabscuttle385

You almost have to admire him for his courage, to stand by this turkey.

But America hates 0bamacare and Mr. Romney needs to be constantly reminded that his plan is what 0bama and his minions used as a blueprint for 0bamacare.

Now, does anyone honestly believe that he will have the courage to repeal 0bamacare, which is the offspring of his baby in Massachusetts?


5 posted on 11/17/2011 4:04:27 PM PST by Sister_T ("Calling ILLEGAL aliens "immigrants" is like calling shoplifters 'customers'!"-UCFRoadWarrior ><>)
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To: rabscuttle385

Chris Wallace, in one of his more lucid interview moments on FoxNews Sunday several months ago, called Romeny on his claim that Romneycare didn’t cause increases while he was governor.

Wallace pointed out that Massachusetts received FED money for the purpose of implementing Romneycare, thus keeping the initial costs low — while Romney was Governor. The cost rises didn’t occur until after Romney had left office.

Convenient, huh.


6 posted on 11/17/2011 4:06:49 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: EGPWS
Why go Romney when we already have 0bama in place?

One of the mains reasons the MSM wants Romney. He takes one of Obama's weaknesses off the table.

7 posted on 11/17/2011 4:07:41 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: EGPWS

Yup. His own adviser said RomneyCare and ObamaCare are one and the same.

This is the problem we have with Mittens’ sticking with principle:

What is wrong with ObamaCare? He’s not the person to argue against it, without looking like a hypocrite.

And like I said, given his reputation, this will help him some but it won’t fix his problems with conservatives.

I can forgive him for RomneyCare. I can’t forgive him for being a liberal and a slippery politician.


8 posted on 11/17/2011 4:08:23 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
My respect for Slick Willard just went up.

Not mine. The fact that he will waffle on about anything else means that he is truly in favor of government-run health care. If this is what he wants to hang his hat on, he should be running in the Dem primary, not the GOP.

9 posted on 11/17/2011 4:09:42 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: Sister_T

“But America hates 0bamacare and Mr. Romney needs to be constantly reminded that his plan is what 0bama and his minions used as a blueprint for 0bamacare.”

Americans are going to hate it more in a couple of years. When 40% of employers drop their health care plans to pay the fine. Essentially taking people off their health care plans and putting them on medicaid. Or paying for individual plans themselves if they can afford it.


10 posted on 11/17/2011 4:10:46 PM PST by desertfreedom765
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To: rabscuttle385
He affirmed that he believes the health-care program was the “right thing” for Massachusetts

Yeah, what did Massachusetts residents do to deserve the mandate enforced by the Massachusetts Department of Revenue?

What happens if I do not meet the mandate?

If you don’t have health insurance by Dec. 31, 2007, you will lose your personal income tax exemption for 2007. That exemption gives you a Massachusetts tax savings of approximately $219.

In 2008, the cost of the penalty goes up. The fine will equal half of the cost of the lowest-priced Health Connector-certified plan for each month that you don’t have coverage

Waivers will be available for those who cannot afford a plan that meets the rules. Check back for updates.

How is the mandate enforced?

The Massachusetts Department of Revenue will enforce the individual mandate through the tax process.

Used to feel sorry for mass residents, then realized they =send the likes of Barney Frank, Jon Kerry, and would still be sending Ted Kennedy if he wasn't burning in Hell, and don't have much sympathy.

FLIP SLICK WILLARD RINO ROMNEY needs to find a new hobby, running for the GOP nomination is a waste of time and money.

11 posted on 11/17/2011 4:10:52 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: kosciusko51

Not that I agree with him. Given the kind of guy he is, that took guts.

But its not going to help get to where he needs to go without a lot of work.

In the end, its not about RomneyCare. Its his philosophy and his situational ethics.

For those reasons, I don’t him anywhere near the White House.


12 posted on 11/17/2011 4:13:40 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: rabscuttle385

Milt, the Magic RINO:
"I am their King.
I control their marriage, their health.
Their BIG DIG, and their badges.
I control the backstabbing against the GOP.
Bow deeply before me.
"

“It’s good to be King.”

13 posted on 11/17/2011 4:14:26 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Diogenesis

14 posted on 11/17/2011 4:17:40 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: goldstategop
Fair enough.

My point is I don't admire him for stick with RomneyCare when the facts show it has failed. He refuses to accept the reality of the situation. He could have easily said, "I did not realize it would be so expensive to Mass., and as a result, I do not support it." Changing one's mind after receiving new facts is not flip-flopping.

15 posted on 11/17/2011 4:19:43 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: goldstategop
I can forgive him for RomneyCare. I can’t forgive him for being a liberal and a slippery politician.

I can't forgive him for RomneyCare because it's his being a slippery liberal politician that prompted his bringing it up in the first place.

The man is a snake through and through and isn't deserving of a position of serving the public in any form IMO.

16 posted on 11/17/2011 4:21:39 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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17 posted on 11/17/2011 4:22:20 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: kosciusko51

That would be flip-flopping. If its your baby, defend it. If people don’t think that’s a good argument, they’re entitled to their own judgment.

I’m glad on this issue he is honest. That doesn’t mean I think he is in the clear.

There are other reasons to disqualify him from the presidency.


18 posted on 11/17/2011 4:22:54 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: EGPWS

We differ on that - people make policy mistakes so I’m charitable.

But I can’t abide Slick Willard on all the other things. Its not RomneyCare that’s hurting him.

He has a lot of baggage he hasn’t realized he has and my guess is he will probably never come to terms with it.


19 posted on 11/17/2011 4:26:30 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Thunder90

Not so fast.

This socialist is a cancer inside the GOP and it has metastasized quickly.

Me thinks the patient ( GOP ) has only months to live ( 2012 ) wherein a new body ( party ) will take over.


20 posted on 11/17/2011 4:27:36 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: kosciusko51
He's a douchebag.

Where does he get off forcing residents of a state to buy medical insurance enforced by the local IRS and then turn around and say it was right for the residents of Mass because he says so , but other states, if they are lucky, can decide for themselves?

Good Lord, a majority Americans are stupid, but GOP primary voters are not THAT stupid.

21 posted on 11/17/2011 4:28:15 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Para-Ord.45

My sincere hope is that if Mitt is the nominee, it will cause mass defections from the GOP and the birth of a new political party.


22 posted on 11/17/2011 4:28:38 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Mr. Romney:


23 posted on 11/17/2011 4:29:37 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Para-Ord.45

“Me thinks the patient ( GOP ) has only months to live ( 2012 ) wherein a new body ( party ) will take over.”

From your keyboard to God’s ears.


24 posted on 11/17/2011 4:36:26 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Cain & Gingrich 2012..theres plenty of work to be done!)
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To: colorado tanker

Massachusetts already had 92% of population with health insurance
an outlier.

However, Mitt keeps saying for 92% of the population, nothing changed.

Uh....

YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT A FIVE PAGE FORM WITH YOUR MA STATE TAX RETURN. SCHEDULE HC. IF YOU DO NOT FILL OUT SCHEDULE HC, YOU
GET A LETTER FROM THE STATE Dept. of REVENUE. YOU MUST FILL THIS
OUT OTHERWISE YOU WILL GET THE MAXIMUM PENALTY.

YOU MUST PROVIDE YOUR HEALTH INS. CO. , YOUR PERSONAL ID NUMBER!!!
YOU BIRTHDATE (becuase everyone over 18 must do this)

That’s COMMUNISM.

If you try to talk to the DOR, guess what???? THey will not care.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A STATE APPROVED HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN

YOU ARE GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT

THERE IS A VIOLATION OF THE FIFTH AMENDMENT (due process, takings clause)
FOURTH AMENDMENT (violating my privacy)
FIRST AMENDMENT (Freedom of association — to contract my own heatlh)

AND MITTENS SAYS NOTHING CHANGED

WEll sure Hitler and Mussolini said nothing changed either.


25 posted on 11/17/2011 4:37:56 PM PST by preamble
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To: Rome2000

If a state wants an Obamacare-style health care system, that should be the choice of that state and its voters.

What I’m against is the federal government forcing it on the entire country, whether it wants it or not.

Each state should be allowed to decide on the best means to insure and provide health care to its residents.


26 posted on 11/17/2011 4:41:33 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: dfwgator

“My sincere hope is that if Mitt is the nominee, it will cause mass defections from the GOP and the birth of a new political party.”

We’ll see. My fear is that many/most conservatives will vote for any socialist, so long as it comes with an R label attached.


27 posted on 11/17/2011 4:41:45 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Cain & Gingrich 2012..theres plenty of work to be done!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

I won’t be one of them.


28 posted on 11/17/2011 4:43:21 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: dfwgator

“My sincere hope is that if Mitt is the nominee, it will cause mass defections from the GOP and the birth of a new political party.”

We’ll see. My fear is that many/most conservatives will vote for any socialist, so long as it comes with an R label attached.


29 posted on 11/17/2011 4:43:21 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Cain & Gingrich 2012..theres plenty of work to be done!)
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To: dfwgator

Nor will I.


30 posted on 11/17/2011 4:44:49 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Cain & Gingrich 2012..theres plenty of work to be done!)
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To: preamble

This issue is my number one problem with Romney, even more than the flip flops. If he is elected with a Republican Congress, will he really repeal Obamacare, or will he renege and just do a “fix”? He obviously has been, shall we say, flexible in his views on health care over time.


31 posted on 11/17/2011 4:45:12 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: RKBA Democrat
We’ll see. My fear is that many/most conservatives will vote for any socialist, so long as it comes with an R label attached.

That's my fear. Having voted socialist R once or twice myself when the alternative was an even bigger commie, I understand the temptation all too well.

I do think we'll eventually wind up with 3 main parties - Green/Liberal, Dem/Repub, and Conservative.

32 posted on 11/17/2011 4:51:06 PM PST by old and tired
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33 posted on 11/17/2011 5:02:34 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: goldstategop
If a state wants an Obamacare-style health care system, that should be the choice of that state and its voters.

Then let them pay for it.

34 posted on 11/17/2011 5:03:22 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: goldstategop

Your giving him to much credit. He had a problem, he would have to choose, Do I back the challenge to O-car at the Supreme? THAT is the QUESTION that MATTERS.

He is just trying to seperate the two which is impossible.

Now he can be asked straight, do you think Obamacare is unconstitutional? Will you repeal Obamacare?


35 posted on 11/17/2011 5:04:44 PM PST by marty60
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To: goldstategop
that should be the choice of that state and its voters.

OK, so the marxists running MASS will have no problem putting up a repeal of ROMNEYCARE on the ballot in 2012?.

The truth is that scumbags like that coward from a family of military service avoiding cowards MYTH ROMNEY are busy, busy, busy imposing their schemes on Joe six pack (who can't fight back), and he has a better chance of surviving jumping out of an airplane without a parachute than he does becoming POTUS.

36 posted on 11/17/2011 5:06:40 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: rabscuttle385

Willard CANNOT back away from Romneycare- he’s already painted as a flip-flopping weathervane. If he disavows the single biggest, most visible, and worst thing he ever did, he’ll cement that label forever.

He MUST stick to this or prove he’s a waffler.


37 posted on 11/17/2011 5:06:42 PM PST by DBrow
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To: rabscuttle385

Hoist on his own petard.

Brilliant!


38 posted on 11/17/2011 5:12:23 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: rabscuttle385

Romneycare is synthetic Obamacare.....

What do the democrats in Massachusetts know about Myth Romney “We” do not know?..
They “see” something in him..... republicans Miss..

Its true I’m not very smart...... I’m a republican..


39 posted on 11/17/2011 5:26:55 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Thunder90

Hey four more years of Obama is no biggie. It will keep the traffic on FR and Rush’s ratings and ad revenues at high levels.


40 posted on 11/17/2011 5:29:05 PM PST by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!')
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To: xkaydet65

A Republican socialist in the White House is much more dangerous than a Democratic one.


41 posted on 11/17/2011 5:30:19 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: goldstategop

I am against government run healthcare (and outlawing of alternatives) at any level. It is pure evil.


42 posted on 11/17/2011 5:30:26 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: rabscuttle385

I'm sure he's VERY proud of it.

43 posted on 11/17/2011 5:37:42 PM PST by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: dfwgator

Keep telling yourself that when they come to take your guns, attack your churches, confiscate your your income, and celebrate Iranian nukes and the mullahs attacking Israel.


44 posted on 11/17/2011 5:41:18 PM PST by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!')
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To: rabscuttle385
Will he walk away from his Assault weapons ban?

Or will it expose more faux conservatives here?

45 posted on 11/17/2011 5:41:24 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: goldstategop

I have to agree. Romney morphs to follow the circumstances around him; we need someone who can mold the circumstances around hm/her.


47 posted on 11/17/2011 5:49:26 PM PST by majormaturity
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To: rabscuttle385

He finally picks an issue to not flip-flop on, and it’s this? Just confirms that Mr. RINO-care has no business being president.


48 posted on 11/17/2011 6:12:39 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: preamble

What do they ask on a 5-page form? Sounds like an invasion of medical privacy.


49 posted on 11/17/2011 6:18:20 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (The "Occupy Wall Street" losers should try occupying their local employment office. GET A JOB!)
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To: goldstategop

My position on the whole freakin’ thing has been a Constitutional argument based on Amendment 10. Nowhere in the Constitution does the federal government have a right to inflict a healthcare law on every citizen.

BUT: the rights not given to the feds are reserved for the “states and the people”. What that means, from my studies, is that the various states can be laboratories for their own populations. If the people of a state want to do something (school vouchers, healthcare, drinking ages, etc.), then they ought to be free to do so.

Long before this primary season started, I was keen on the laboratory idea. Other states can learn from one state’s example and adapt for their own population. The “one size fits all” of a federal plan, however well-meaning, is a recipe for disaster.

NOW: people can say, “States don’t have the right to do that either.” To which I would say, “That is a policy decision for the people (see the 10th amendment again!) to make!”

Rick Perry made much of the same “states right” argument when it came to the tuition for illegals. That was reduced tuition for STATE SCHOOLS. A state issue.

I dunno. I know Romney is hated here. I don’t hate him. Don’t know if I’ll VOTE for him in the primary, but I just don’t see the demon behind the $100 haircut.


50 posted on 11/17/2011 6:20:59 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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