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Los Zetas in Chicago, and U.S. guns "gone walking" in Mexico
http://mexicogulfreporter ^ | November 16, 2011 | Edward V. Byrne

Posted on 11/17/2011 10:38:39 PM PST by Rabin

General Eric Holder told Congress just last week that “the U.S. is losing the war on arms trafficking.”

(Excerpt) Read more at stopthedrugwar.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; armstrafficking; banglist; barackruptcy; borderwars; dictatorship; gunrunner; holder; mexico; nazis; planmerida; sourcetitlenoturl; tyrants; wod; wodlist; wosd
Kinda hard to figure how "we" can lose when Zeta has to fork over cash while DoJ has a select operation to provide both grants, and free shipping.

Rab

1 posted on 11/17/2011 10:38:43 PM PST by Rabin
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To: Rabin
Holder is arranging free financing and shipping. ATF is making sure the "dealers" write up the paperwork even when it is abundantly clear the transaction is illegal. You just don't get any more stupid or venal than Holder. He needs a lifetime in the graybar hotel for what he has done. I have little confidence that anybody with a spine will make that happen.
2 posted on 11/17/2011 11:24:39 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Rabin
Prohibition is a godsend to the cartels, said El Paso city councilwoman Byrd, who explained how a pound of marijuana sells for $25 in Mexico's pot-growing areas but $525 in Chicago. "Legalizing marijuana is the best way to take it to the cartels," she said.

She is right.

3 posted on 11/18/2011 12:22:02 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

She is wrong. We need to close the border and let them keep their 25 dollar a pound pot.


4 posted on 11/18/2011 12:54:14 AM PST by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: South Dakota
You are right.
By using the Prohibition repeal model, it can be seen that legalizing whatever will cause use to explode. The war on drugs will not end, merely shift to selling drugs to minors and to the use of ever harder drugs.

It's puzzling that people seek solutions other than the obvious one of hermetically sealing the border.

5 posted on 11/18/2011 1:09:11 AM PST by stormhill
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To: South Dakota
...She is wrong. We need to close the border

...Close the border with,,, WHAT?

6 posted on 11/18/2011 1:10:24 AM PST by gargoyle (...it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them...)
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To: Rabin

Pre-meditated, agenda-driven murder (it doesn’t matter who gets murdered).


7 posted on 11/18/2011 1:11:39 AM PST by PGalt
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To: stormhill
...Yea, the war on illegal alcohol is escalating at an alarming rate! Starts with brewing beer, next thing you know everyone has a still in their backyard! Kids are driving tricycles and big wheels erratically down the sidewalk, running over senior citizens and cute puppies. /sarc
8 posted on 11/18/2011 1:22:17 AM PST by gargoyle (...it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them...)
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To: Rabin; devolve; bruinbirdman; Grampa Dave; ntnychik; dixiechick2000
Zoom out and Los Zetas buy military hardware per CIA contract agent Tosh Plumlee.

Sinaloa Cartel gets immunity in its smuggling operation in exchange for intel on other cartels per the court documents in the Fox News story by William Lajeunesse.

Holder is arming the Sinaloa Cartel. Period.

Border agents Ramos and Compean, Jesus Diaz, and others are jailed for interfering with the traffic.

When Ahmed Walid Karzai was accused of being a CIA tool and a drug lord he was defended by Gerald Posner, then assassinated. Too hot.

Poppy crop up in the decade-long war zone.

Chinese send tens of thousands of tons of precursors to Mexican superlabs for the meth that winds up in Marshalltown, Iowa.

China hacks our satellites. And undermines us with meth.

Hezbollah coming to the party, too.

No one, not Bush, not Obama, will do the job the Constitution requires.

In fact--arming the enemy is treason.

Grassley and Issa need more reinforcements.

Boehner and McConnell need to be retired.


9 posted on 11/18/2011 1:39:06 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: gargoyle

Keep on tokin’ bro.


10 posted on 11/18/2011 1:49:21 AM PST by stormhill
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To: PhilDragoo
Good analysis.
Laughable to hear some drug-addicted huckleberry talk as if it's impossible to secure the border when, in fact, it's so easy they have to prosecute border agents to prevent them from accidentally getting the job done.

If these politicians were even tangentially serious about saving the country, the Minutemen would be a cabinet department by now.

11 posted on 11/18/2011 2:01:58 AM PST by stormhill
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To: PhilDragoo

BUMP!


12 posted on 11/18/2011 2:02:53 AM PST by PGalt
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To: stormhill
When you see GWB calling Johnny Sutton his "good friend" and Holder sending two thousand weapons to the thug army--

Now we see Obama headed for Myanmar--Burma--Golden Triangle--Wa Drug Army--

Drugs are a weapon and a monetary standard--

A tool for taming a people--

The Soma of the Brave New World of Aldous Huxley.

The Chicoms and Norks put missiles on the Venezuelan peninsula aimed at Colombia.

We're supposed to be preoccupied with Dancing With the Trannies.

What do they take us for.


13 posted on 11/18/2011 2:12:19 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: South Dakota

Most who call for sealed borders don’t mean that international trade should stop, but that this trade requires the nod of whatever country the product is being brought into.


14 posted on 11/18/2011 2:13:27 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: PhilDragoo
What do they take us for.

Please don't think for a minute that it doesn't pain me to say this, but they take us for exactly what we are.

15 posted on 11/18/2011 2:16:25 AM PST by stormhill
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To: Rabin

The WHOLE deal here was to get traceable guns to the cartels and use the corpses of the resulting dead people in Mexico to fuel an outcry against eeeeevilll US guns.
BTW—AKs are MUCH cheaper on the international market—$100 or so.
An assault on US rights on the one hand—and supply the favored cartel on the other (think ACorn). We will see the criminal results here in the USA before the election in ‘12.


16 posted on 11/18/2011 3:56:00 AM PST by Flintlock (Photo ID for all voters. Let the dead rest in peace.)
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To: Rabin
General Eric Holder told Congress just last week that “the U.S. is losing the war on arms trafficking.”

We are only "losing" it because of all your efforts to make it look like we are losing it.

17 posted on 11/18/2011 4:41:14 AM PST by CPOSharky (The only thing straight, white, Christian males get is the blame for everything.)
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To: CPOSharky

Maybe with Fast and Furious he’s taking the “if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em” approach.


18 posted on 11/18/2011 4:45:19 AM PST by Gee Wally
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19 posted on 11/18/2011 4:56:41 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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20 posted on 11/18/2011 5:06:51 AM PST by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: stormhill
The war on drugs is a failure and will not survive much longer. It only survives now because fedgov doles out multi-billion$ each year.

When that dries up, the drug war will collapse. You not like it, but that's reality.

21 posted on 11/18/2011 5:26:24 AM PST by Ken H (They are running out of other people's money. )
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To: PhilDragoo

Evil comes in many guises bump, thanks!


22 posted on 11/18/2011 5:26:52 AM PST by spankalib (The Marx-in-the-Parks crowd is a basement skunkworks operation of the AFL-CIO)
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To: Ken H
You may not like it...
23 posted on 11/18/2011 5:27:53 AM PST by Ken H (They are running out of other people's money. )
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To: PhilDragoo; potlatch




BARACKRUPT DICTATORSHIP




24 posted on 11/18/2011 5:41:10 AM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - - Nouveau Barack Pansies of Obamaville - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: South Dakota
We need to close the border and let them keep their 25 dollar a pound pot.

Agreed. Congress has constitutional authority - it could argued an obligation - to do so.

Congress has no constitutional authority to impose national drug prohibition. Do you agree?

25 posted on 11/18/2011 5:44:27 AM PST by Ken H (They are running out of other people's money. )
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To: stormhill; gargoyle

So yet another newbie drug warrior whose only argument is, when faced with the insanity that is the last 5 decades of the War on Some Drugs, YOU’RE A DRUGGIE!!1!

Weak. Really, really weak.


26 posted on 11/18/2011 5:53:11 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster
...when faced with the insanity that is the last 5 decades of the War on Some Drugs, YOU’RE A DRUGGIE!!1!

...There's a whole list of FRisms like that. Another favorite of mine is, maybe you'd be happier over at DU. NAAAA!

27 posted on 11/18/2011 9:07:51 AM PST by gargoyle (...it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them...)
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To: stormhill
By using the Prohibition repeal model, it can be seen that legalizing whatever will cause use to explode.

False.

"alcohol consumption [...] did not increase substantially immediately following the repeal of Prohibition." - Alcohol Consumption During Prohibition, Jeffrey A. Miron; Jeffrey Zwiebel, The American Economic Review, Vol. 81, No. 2, (May, 1991), pp. 242-247

The war on drugs will not end, merely shift to selling drugs to minors and to the use of ever harder drugs.

Suppliers can't create demand by force of will, in the drug market or any other market.

It's puzzling that people seek solutions other than the obvious one of hermetically sealing the border.

That would have no effect on domestically produced drugs.

28 posted on 11/18/2011 10:55:53 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies
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To: PhilDragoo
Drugs are a weapon and a monetary standard--

A tool for taming a people--

Does that include the addictive, debilitating drug alcohol?

29 posted on 11/18/2011 11:01:12 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies
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To: South Dakota

As long as it’s illegal it will be $525 per lb. pot here and they will get it through no matter how hard we try to seal the border.


30 posted on 11/18/2011 1:11:56 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: FreedomPoster

It’s not just a weak argument it’s stupid. It’s a fact of life that any substance or object that is prohibited increases in value astronomically and what follows is obvious.


31 posted on 11/18/2011 1:19:17 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: devolve

Friday ........


32 posted on 11/26/2011 3:02:11 AM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: potlatch

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Yup -

1:41pm EST now

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33 posted on 11/26/2011 10:49:22 AM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - - Nouveau Barack Pansies of Obamaville - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: devolve

Lol, you probably just got home!
I couldn’t sleep.


34 posted on 11/26/2011 7:00:34 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: potlatch

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All quiet here on the Northern Front -

Front power suddenly went of here today - but I quickly ran PLAN B - an XHD cable to a rear circuit and got my electronics up and running again

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35 posted on 11/26/2011 7:23:16 PM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - - Nouveau Barack Pansies of Obamaville - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: devolve

Wasn’t quiet here today - in my mind anyway.
I battled computer trouble for 4 or 5 hours just to get online.


36 posted on 11/26/2011 7:40:00 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: potlatch


Getcher new DELL & desk set up?


37 posted on 11/26/2011 7:47:27 PM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - - Nouveau Barack Pansies of Obamaville - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: devolve

Too bad they didn’t put Whites on there for comparison.
Computer just went down a few minutes ago. May HAVE to set up new Dell tomorrow and it will take days to install all my programs.

I had an illegal white English lady next door to me for years. They knew it but did nothing. She was a terror.


38 posted on 11/26/2011 8:01:37 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: potlatch

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There are some white immigrants that have huge rates

I won’t post them here - but I will say they are largely in the NY-NY areas

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39 posted on 11/26/2011 8:08:53 PM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - - Nouveau Barack Pansies of Obamaville - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: potlatch

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There are some white immigrants that have huge rates

I won’t post them here - but I will say they are largely in the NY-NJ areas

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40 posted on 11/26/2011 8:09:12 PM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - - Nouveau Barack Pansies of Obamaville - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: devolve

Well, let’s face it, probably half the people on welfare and other handouts are not illegals. I don’t know the actual stats.


41 posted on 11/26/2011 8:16:30 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: potlatch

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The ones I referring to have “gamed the system” for generations

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42 posted on 11/26/2011 8:41:28 PM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - - Nouveau Barack Pansies of Obamaville - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: devolve

I once read of a Puerto Rican family who had taken millions in welfare over generations. I tried to do some Googling but my computer is too slow. But I saw one article saying whites are 66% of welfare takers.

Just had to shut down and reboot twice after a Spybot scan.


43 posted on 11/26/2011 8:52:54 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: potlatch

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I recall that family

Boston - I think -

3 generations - over 20 million bucks I believe

Politicians and bureaucrats are the villains

There also was a high school dropout woman in the NY-LI area that used her computer set up over 75 IDs for herself to collect welfare and all the other freevies too

She owned yachts, dozens of cars, multiple homes she rented out to illegals and never reported rent income, and property in the islands

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44 posted on 11/26/2011 9:00:53 PM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - - Nouveau Barack Pansies of Obamaville - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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To: devolve

It’s complete failure by the government and local authorities who should be required to check up on these people.

I ‘also’ have a graph about ‘poor people’. Listening to stories you would think they are starving, look in their homes and you see all kinds of luxuries. Takers take...


45 posted on 11/26/2011 9:09:05 PM PST by potlatch (*snip*~ Having the right to be angry does not give one the right to be cruel. ~*snip*)
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To: potlatch

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Yup -

If they are not permitted to own a car - they manage to have plenty of freevies and cash flow to simply lease a car

They get a really huge flat screen HDTV from Rent-A-Center or Arrons (they advertise on SPEED Channel that they do not check credit) -

They “network” with others to organize how to get all the freevies they can - and more

In many areas they have overwhelmed the food banks by using aliases and even traveling to other states to loot the food banks - and deny it to honest people that are temporily down on their luck or have lost a job because of Hussein Junior’s redistribution scams - then many will sell that food to small bodegas and stores

He has nearly doubled the amount of people on food programs in the last 3 years

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46 posted on 11/26/2011 9:24:58 PM PST by devolve (- - - - - - - - - - - - Nouveau Barack Pansies of Obamaville - - - - - - - - - - - -)
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