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Posted on 11/18/2011 2:55:26 PM PST by Olog-hai
Um, "Hansel and Gretel" (if you mean Germany's government) are running the largest welfare state on that continent themselves. Not to mention having a welfare state is part of the treaties on European Union. Nobody wanted to get bailed out—or did you not notice that every country that got a bailout loan had their governments fall before they got them?
The failing welfare states of Europe need to understand that if Hansel and Gretel are going to bail their worthless posteriors out, Hansel and Gretel are going to demand fiscal authority
No, the German citizenry want nothing to do with bailout out other countries, not that the government is doing it, but instead issuing loans (still against the will of German citizens, and against the will of the citizens of the recipient countries). Lots of things happening here that do not make sense, and none of the above countries' economies were in trouble until the ECB started playing with interest rates.
Of course, Hansel and Gretel would rather have nothing to do with a bailout
Of course I am. It isn't America. It's Europe. Why should I care how they conduct themselves. The train left the station for them when they decided to create the EU.
That's the very attitude of the people who re-elected Woodrow Wilson on the platform slogan "He Kept Us Out Of War". Much as I dislike TR's progressive politics, he at least was a hawk that saw that the USA could be a great force for good on the world stage—and when he heard that campaign slogan, and about how Wilson was writing notes to the Kaiser begging him not to have his U-boats fire torpedoes on ships carrying Americans, he did say the following:
Of course I am. It isn't America. It's Europe. Why should I care how they conduct themselves
I was president for 7½ years, and if I were president now, I would send the Kaiser just one note—and he would know that I meant it.That isolationist attitude that re-elected Wilson didn't keep us out of WWII either. I don't want war, but Germany's becoming more and more belligerent and even hawkish. This'll end up on the USA's front porch again. German elites have been blaming "the Anglo-Saxon model" of economics for the 2008 crash—which is open racism against British and Americans—and positing their social market as the solution, even on a global scale.
The more socialist PIIGS should cut their government spending, become more productive, and stop whining for more money from Germany and France.
Check your calender. It is 2011. We are far more involve in world politics than we should ever be in comparison to back then. To argue for more intervention when we need attention with out own affairs is silly. Good luck selling this to a war weary electorate.
What exactly is the threat to the United States here? You seem to be tap dancing around the fact that you hate Germany for some reason. Personally Iran and China are countries that peek my interest, not the inter workings of a financial deal in the EU.
Not only do you parrot German racism (or is it out of the Koran? since it sounds so similar to how the "prophet" labels Jews as "apes and pigs"), but you also ignore the fact that Germany is more socialist than the countries that they forced "bailout" loans on. And the social market economy is required according to the Treaties on European Union. Get some background and stop relying on propaganda.
The more socialist PIIGS should cut their government spending, become more productive, and stop whining for more money from Germany and France
That's a very liberal post, and one that starts with a fallacious accusation of anachronism. The USA cannot survive without a coherent foreign policy. Isolationism on the USA's part let belligerent powers rise twice before, and the same thing is happening again now that the USA is turning inward. The rest of the world doesn't disappear because the USA ignores it. Those that we get into wars with happen to have economic and social models that are drastically different from ours, and they've already stated that they hold enmity with our models of same (and a false accusation that the "Anglo-Saxon" economic model caused the 2008 financial meltdown when it was actually their social market model). Churchill taught us that appeasing such beasts in the hope that they'll eat us last is futile.
Check your calender. It is 2011. We are far more involve in world politics than we should ever be in comparison to back then. To argue for more intervention when we need attention with out own affairs is silly. Good luck selling this to a war weary electorate
Leaking the details of your national budget to another country's parliament is hardly the "interworkings of a financial deal".
What exactly is the threat to the United States here? You seem to be tap dancing around the fact that you hate Germany for some reason. Personally Iran and China are countries that peek my interest, not the inter workings of a financial deal in the EU
Southern Europe and its most socialist social friends are defaulting, repudiating and on their way out of the EMU. Get over it. Italy should accept the market’s control of bond yields and collapses. No bailouts! And BTW, fascism originated there.
I love the smell of commie globalism burning in the morning. No empire. Too bad.
Better hope that Germany doesn't build it then, and don't help them along in spirit.
I love the smell of commie globalism burning in the morning. No empire. Too bad
Ireland is a prime example of why everyone should hate Germany. There economy was humming before the Germans and their allies at the EBB bankrupted them.
It’s not going to end well. They’ve taken away democracy and eventually the people are going to rise up. England and Ireland will be allies this time.
You're very confused. What's America-like about Germany, pray tell?
Southern Europe and its most socialist social friends are defaulting, repudiating and on their way out of the EMU. Get over it. Italy should accept the market’s control of bond yields and collapses. No bailouts! And BTW, fascism originated there
Excellent way of putting it. I see it, but you make it easy to understand and relate.
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