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Mark Steyn: Penn State's institutional wickedness
OC Register ^ | 19 Nov 2011 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 11/19/2011 1:16:50 AM PST by Rummyfan

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To: RayChuang88
"...so dominating a very small town that just about everyone was fearful of offending him."

I think there's another Pennsylvania example of this...remember John Murtha? He also set himself up as a 'Duke' with Johnstown and environs as his fiefdom.

41 posted on 11/19/2011 7:04:01 AM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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42 posted on 11/19/2011 7:07:44 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Rummyfan
IMO, as far as McQueary is concerned, here's the money quote...

Why, the graduate assistant is so "distraught" that he has to leave and telephone his father. He is pushing 30, an age when previous generations would have had little boys of their own. But today, confronted by a grade-schooler being sodomized before his eyes, the poor distraught child-man approaching early middle-age seeks out some fatherly advice...

43 posted on 11/19/2011 7:35:56 AM PST by opus86
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To: Erik Latranyi

To the Democrats, this is just intergenerational homosexual love.


44 posted on 11/19/2011 7:59:47 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Humbug
Penn St. had a couple of bad years prior to the March 2002 locker room incident. They went 5-7 in 2000 and 5-6 in 2001. I suspect a house cleaning would have been in order back then as well.
45 posted on 11/19/2011 8:01:00 AM PST by EVO X
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To: Erik Latranyi
You are all forgetting that the President of Penn State, Graham Spanier, was a homosexual advocate from his days at University of Nebraska Lincoln.

Did you know that Spanier was a faculty member at Penn State from 1973 to 1982, before he set foot at the University of Nebraska? When he became President of Penn State it was a return to his roots as a academician.

46 posted on 11/19/2011 8:05:59 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Travis McGee

Every one of us will reach the end of his life and get what’s coming to him.

As a non-fan of all spectator sports, I’m often astonished by the bizarre atmosphere that surrounds them. My 6th grade Sunday School class was talking about false gods last week, and several students independently mentioned sports, and incidents of serious wrongdoing in their own (middle) schools and community programs.

The financial motivation of the professional participants - coaches and other staff, administration - and of parents who think their children will get sports scholarships is obvious enough. What really puzzles me is the obsessive and hysterical behavior of those whose only involvement is watching the sport or team.


47 posted on 11/19/2011 8:14:06 AM PST by Tax-chick (Seven more days to dust your ceiling fan blades!)
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To: Humbug
Or did he threaten him in some way, perhaps saying that if you take this to the police, not only will they likely not do anything about it, but he’d make sure that you’ll never work at PSU again? Or did he get in touch with the higher ups at PSU and persuade them to sweep this matter under the rug?

BINGO. In fact, I think Sandusky may have personally threatened McQueary not only with being kicked out of Penn State, but also could have made it nearly impossible for McQueary to work at any other college football program. And all in the name of protecting the reputation of the university. As for that missing district attorney, his mysterious death--especially since he was pursuing the reports of Sandusky's deviant behavior--could possibly get to the point that Joe Paterno, his coaching staff and even the Penn State administration could be charged with first-degree murder or accessory to first-degree murder. Now THAT would make this whole sordid affair one of the most sensational criminal cases of all time....

48 posted on 11/19/2011 8:52:44 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Likewise with me at 114lbs. I just don’t understand it at all. He continued to consort with that violent criminal, too, to work with him as if nothing had happened. It’s outrageous. In that moment, my fury would have known no bounds. And I can tell you 1 thing for sure. I would have been screaming like a rabid ape on steroids such that somebody would have heard me before Sandusky had an opportunity to get dressed.


49 posted on 11/19/2011 9:41:16 AM PST by definitelynotaliberal (Nov. 6, 2012 - And the correct answer is no one is entitled to a bailout.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I’m afraid to read your link, but I thank you for posting it.


50 posted on 11/19/2011 9:53:57 AM PST by definitelynotaliberal (Nov. 6, 2012 - And the correct answer is no one is entitled to a bailout.)
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To: Travis McGee; Mr Ramsbotham

I have no doubt that you do would have done the same as your 84 and 96 year old mothers. You’re probably not bragging about it because you think that that is the only course of action in an event like this. McQueary illustrates that it is not. I’m thankful for mothers like yours who raise men like you.


51 posted on 11/19/2011 10:05:06 AM PST by definitelynotaliberal (Nov. 6, 2012 - And the correct answer is no one is entitled to a bailout.)
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To: Travis McGee
To argue that a man witnessing child sex in progress has no responsibility other than to comply with procedures and report it to a colleague further up the chain of command represents a near-suicidal loss of that distinction.

That is the only problem that I have with this article by Steyn. I don't know what child sex is. Perhaps it's two precocious kids driven by hormones imitating animals. That was not the case in that shower. It was child rape plain and simple.


52 posted on 11/19/2011 10:08:58 AM PST by definitelynotaliberal (Nov. 6, 2012 - And the correct answer is no one is entitled to a bailout.)
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To: Travis McGee

In early 2004, at a prison outside of Phoenix, there were a male and female guard standing a watch in a guard tower.

Due to carelessness/complacency on the part of the guy, two of the prisoners got into the tower and whacked the guy in the head with a shovel, and held the two guards hostage.

His injury was severe enough that the prisoners allowed him to be removed for treatment.

He (the male guard) did not insist that the female be released also.

He allowed himself to be evacuated, leaving his coworker to the tender mercies of two convicted felons.

The news reports that were released were pretty short of details, but it was fairly obvious that the woman over the next two weeks was raped nearly into oblivion.

Which was entirely predictable.

Brief account of the situation here:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,110108,00.html


53 posted on 11/19/2011 6:12:44 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Vision

It’s subjective relativism for Everyman. It cuts very deep and brings out the inner liberal in people who didn’t think they had one.


54 posted on 11/19/2011 6:18:02 PM PST by Mmmike
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To: Tax-chick

that is where we are heading....to absolutely no morals or reservations...but then again, that is what homosexuals want and in particular, homosexuals that go after younger men or boys....


55 posted on 11/19/2011 8:57:13 PM PST by cherry
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To: Alberta's Child
the difference between the tiny minority of perverted Catholic priests and this situation is that almost ALL of the alledged deeds by the priests were backed up by nothing more than one person's word against another, and in many cases, it was one person's word against a dead person....

I see that the two accusers in the Syracuse case didn't report that ever happened to them until many years later....

56 posted on 11/19/2011 9:01:08 PM PST by cherry
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To: Mmmike
It's only subjective relativism because the homosexual lobby has made everyone doubt their sense of right and wrong.
57 posted on 11/19/2011 9:01:13 PM PST by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Rummyfan
...Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau responded that, if people were so bothered by illegal barn burning by the Mounties, perhaps he would make it legal. Jonas pointed out that burning barns isn't wrong because it's illegal, it's illegal because it's wrong. A society that no longer understands that distinction is in deep trouble. To argue that a man witnessing child sex in progress has no responsibility other than to comply with procedures and report it to a colleague further up the chain of command represents a near-suicidal loss of that distinction.

Great post - thanks.

58 posted on 11/19/2011 9:16:18 PM PST by GOPJ ( Democrats are the only reason to vote for Republicans.... Will Rogers)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Amen, and it wasn’t just Spanier.

The turn of my own near-ivy east coast college from reasonably moral (in loco parentis) to wholly immoral (moral chaos and perversion) was also marked by a change of university president in 1972. But it wasn’t just a new President, it was a whole cohort of professionals coming into power at the time.

It is a zeitgeist of the class of people in those generations (from the late 1960’s through today) who chose to work in the higher education, especially student life and liberal arts departments. Those kind of people are always with us, but what happened since the late 1960’s is that the parts of society that would have stood up to them and keep their evil parts at bay were weakened, isolated, made small.

As a harbringer note the 1962 novel The Harrad Experiemnt http://www.amazon.com/Harrad-Experiment-Anniversary-Afterword-Bibliography/dp/0879756233, which became a movie in 1973. The highly popular 1978 movie Animal House was another, later, bell tolling.


59 posted on 11/19/2011 9:17:50 PM PST by bvw
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To: cherry
homosexuals that go after younger men or boys

Which is the standard case. Even those who settle into a "homemaking" relationship with a contemporary are still erotically oriented toward the *young* male body.

60 posted on 11/20/2011 4:09:34 AM PST by Tax-chick (Seven more days to dust your ceiling fan blades!)
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