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Golden Oldies: Newt and the “cancer bed divorce” myth
Hot Air ^ | 11/19/2011 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 11/19/2011 8:24:03 AM PST by TBBT

With Newt Gingrich continuing to surge in the polls, plenty of stories are bubbling to the surface, including things from the distant past. And let’s face it… Newt has been knocking around US politics for an awfully long time, with tales of many of his exploits being told and retold until they pass into legend. Of course, you know what they say about legends.

[countable] an old story about famous people and events in the past. Legends are not usually true

One of the more nasty ones is the persistent tale of how Newt went to see his wife as she lay dying of cancer in her hospital bed and presented her with divorce papers. Ouch. That’s a pretty unpleasant story to float about anyone, and apparently it’s so temptingly salacious that it keeps getting hinted at in the media and I’ve seen it cropping up again on Twitter as recently as last night. Unfortunately for the gossip minded, nearly every aspect of the story is false and has been roundly debunked by what should be considered a pretty reliable source – his own daughter who was in the hospital room at the time. (Hat tip to OTB.)

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KEYWORDS: divorce; gingrich; newt
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Re. Washington Post Headline: Aspects of Gingrich divorce story distorted

Ya think?

See Jazz's link to the WP story at the end...

I found that WP article to be irritating. Here you have a story whose purported purpose is to put to bed attempts to resurrect a nasty old tale - but seems to grudgingly be unwilling to let it go in the end.

I just love the liberal media...

Jazz's analysis/commentary was pretty good though...

1 posted on 11/19/2011 8:24:07 AM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT
What is the problem, newt was banging his high school teacher, he got out of the draft and she gave him a free education, just living the American dream. And then he found younger wife number 1, Newt is one smart man, works all the angles. And the rounds to for that matter.
2 posted on 11/19/2011 8:30:49 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: TBBT

Rick Perry is an illegal loving racist!!! /s


3 posted on 11/19/2011 8:31:30 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TBBT
Regardless of whether or not he went to the hospital for the divorce, this is a guy who clearly thinks marriage is a job. The timing on his daughter coming forward with this right before he announced his intentions for running for President are suspect at best. One thing he is, is a serial adulterer.

Gingrich has been married three times. In 1962, he married Jackie Battley, his former high school geometry teacher, when he was 19 years old and she was 26.[117][118] Gingrich and Battley have two daughters from this marriage: Kathy Gingrich Lubbers is president of Gingrich Communications,[119] and Jackie Gingrich Cushman is an author, conservative columnist, and political commentator[120] whose books include 5 Principles for a Successful Life, co-authored with Newt Gingrich.[121] In the spring of 1980, Gingrich left Battley after having an affair with Marianne Ginther.[122][123] In 1984, Battley told the Washington Post that the divorce was a “complete surprise” to her. According to Battley, in September 1980, Gingrich and their children visited her while she was in the hospital, recovering from surgery, and Gingrich wanted to discuss the terms of their divorce.[124] Gingrich has disputed that account.[94] In 2011, their daughter, Jackie Gingrich Cushman, said that it was her mother who requested the divorce, that it happened prior to the hospital stay, and that Gingrich's visit was for the purpose of bringing the couple's children to see their mother, not to discuss the divorce.[125]
Six months after the divorce from Battley was final, Gingrich wed Marianne Ginther in 1981.[126][127][128][129] In the mid-1990s, Gingrich began an affair with House of Representatives staffer Callista Bisek, who is 23 years his junior. They continued their affair during the Lewinsky scandal, when Gingrich became a leader of the investigation of President Clinton for perjury and obstruction of justice in connection with his alleged affairs.[130] In 2000, Gingrich married Bisek shortly after his divorce from second wife Ginther. He and Callista currently live in McLean, Virginia.[131] In a 2011 interview with David Brody of the Christian Broadcasting Network Gingrich addressed his past infidelities by saying, “There's no question at times in my life, partially driven by how passionately I felt about this country, that I worked too hard and things happened in my life that were not appropriate.”[128][129]
A Southern Baptist since graduate school, Gingrich converted to Catholicism, Bisek’s faith, on March 29, 2009.[132] He said “over the course of several years, I gradually became Catholic and then decided one day to accept the faith I had already come to embrace.” The moment when he decided to officially become a Catholic was when he saw Pope Benedict XVI on his visit to the United States in 2008: “Catching a glimpse of Pope Benedict that day, I was struck by the happiness and peacefulness he exuded. The joyful and radiating presence of the Holy Father was a moment of confirmation about the many things I had been thinking and experiencing for several years.”[133] Gingrich has stated that he has developed a greater appreciation for the role of faith in public life following his conversion, and believes that the United States has become too secular. At a 2011 appearance in Columbus, Ohio, he said, “In America, religious belief is being challenged by a cultural elite trying to create a secularized America, in which God is driven out of public life.”[94]
Gingrich has been a prolific amateur reviewer of books, especially of military histories and spy novels, for Amazon.com. As of 2004, Gingrich held the #488 spot among Amazon's top reviewers. Although an author himself, Gingrich does not review his own works. According to Katherine Mangu-Ward at The Weekly Standard, it is “clear that Newt is fascinated by tipping points—moments where new technology or new ideas cause revolutionary change in the way the world works”.[134]
Gingrich is known for, and has written on several occasions about, his great interest in animals.[135][136] According to USA Today, Gingrich's first engagement in civic affairs was speaking to the city council in his hometown, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, about why the city should establish its own zoological park. Gingrich wrote the introduction for the 2008 book America's Best Zoos.[137] Gingrich is also known as a dinosaur enthusiast. A New Yorker comment on his 1995 book To Renew America noted: “Charmingly, he has retained his enthusiasm for the extinct giants into middle age. In addition to including breakthroughs in dinosaur research on his list of futuristic wonders, he specified ‘people interested in dinosaurs’ as a prime example of who might benefit from his education proposals.”[138] Another subject of interest to Gingrich is space exploration, originating in a fascination with the United States/Soviet Union space race during his teenage years.[139] Gingrich has stated that he would like to see the U.S. aggressively pursue new achievements in space, such as sustaining civilizations beyond Earth,[140] and he advocates relying more on the private sector and less on NASA to drive progress.[141] As of 2010, Gingrich serves on the National Space Society Board of Governors.[142]

4 posted on 11/19/2011 8:32:12 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: TBBT

I hope we defeat the media in this election and the apathetic middle wakes up to how they are so often deceived by people posing as journalists.


5 posted on 11/19/2011 8:34:08 AM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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Did You Know?

The Current FReepathon Pays For The Current Quarters Expenses?

Now That You Do, Donate And Keep FR Running


6 posted on 11/19/2011 8:34:14 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: TBBT
lol good luck shilling for Gingrich on his marriage history. Problem is the dude switches political beliefs like he switches wives and lovers.

Newt is not a man to be trusted in any area. His divorce records will be opened up like a peanut and he'd be lucky to get 43 percent of the national vote.

Loser candidate
7 posted on 11/19/2011 8:35:43 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: napscoordinator

Oh my, does Jesus know you’re running for His position?


8 posted on 11/19/2011 8:37:35 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: over3Owithabrain

Your heaven is going to be so empty ...


9 posted on 11/19/2011 8:39:33 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: over3Owithabrain
The fact that Newt is even being reconsidered at this point is a testament to the overall weakness of the field.

For his many flaws, Newt has shown he understands the battle has to be taken to Obama and has also shown he has the ability to take a debate to Obama (and like it or not, that will be important in the general). The question is, can Newt take it to Obama while withstanding the slime machine MSM/DNC attacks?

It's a fair question - look at what was done to Cain with unprovable allegations of sexual harassment. Newt's marital history is an open book - this just deals with one aspect of that.

10 posted on 11/19/2011 8:40:43 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: napscoordinator

I’m glad I don’t look to politicians as the determiners of my moral code...I’d be sorely disappointed every time.


11 posted on 11/19/2011 8:40:52 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: MHGinTN

Not talking about my heaven or any heaven smart aleck. Talking about Newt being a sleazy person and politician.


12 posted on 11/19/2011 8:41:17 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: MHGinTN
Attacking those who raise this issue will not make it go away. Newt has so much baggage even Southwest Airlines would hit him with bag fees. The question is, can he run against Obama while still carrying that load of baggage? His supporters have to make the case, and the first step towards that is acknowledging the issue is valid.

Right now I am willing to consider any of the candidates other than Romney, Huntsman and Paul. The news cycle has now latched onto Newt like a ravenous man attacking a plate of corn on the cob, and Newt is the latest cob to be picked up and chewed upon. We'll see how he withstands his turn.

13 posted on 11/19/2011 8:45:06 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: MHGinTN

He failed to keep his oath with his first two wives, but with us, I’m sure he’ll stay true. Unless a younger, prettier country comes along...

“There’s no question at times in my life, partially driven by how passionately I felt about this country, that I worked too hard and things happened in my life that were not appropriate.”

That’s just awesome. I love this country _so much_ I had to break my vows. Again.


14 posted on 11/19/2011 8:51:39 AM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: TBBT

My BP is so high right now.
We have no good candidate enough people can embrace.

)bama will win again. America will lose.


15 posted on 11/19/2011 8:54:09 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (WE ARE AMERICA! DONATE TO FR MORE!)
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To: over3Owithabrain
I raised the issue of 'your heaven' because you are just too righteous to permit foregiveness, so your heaven will be very lonely.

But take heart, you can do what Satan did, try to depose the God for deigning to foregive sinners.

Newt is even more of a sinner than me since I have been divorced twice but there is no third wife. I must be such a horror to you.

BTW, here's clue: divorce is a fact of life for roughly 50% of your fellow Americans, and another 40% have close friends or close relatives who have endured the stress of divorce. Any who go through the end of a marriage will have a very different perspective than the faux priggish condemnation now spewing around FR on Newt Gingrich discussion threads.

16 posted on 11/19/2011 8:55:53 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: dirtboy

Those who rasie this issue with a self-righteous echo will actually help Newt overcome the stigma, because so many Americans are very well acquainted with the darker side of divorce and not a few well acquainted with foregiveness.


17 posted on 11/19/2011 8:57:48 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: dirtboy
Newt has so much baggage even Southwest Airlines would hit him with bag fees.

That there is funny!

Truth be told, Newt has seen zero scrutiny from the press yet.

The only press about it is us talking about the ****storm that is coming his way.

Personally I couldn't give a hoot about his personal life, it is his political record he is going to have to explain

18 posted on 11/19/2011 8:57:53 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dirtboy
Newt has so much baggage even Southwest Airlines would hit him with bag fees

Funniest thing I've read in a while, thanks!

19 posted on 11/19/2011 9:03:43 AM PST by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: MHGinTN
Well, from what I have seen with Newt, his marriage/affair pattern shows that of a man consumed with his appetites - it goes well beyond a matter of divorce and later remarriage.

To me, he shows a lack of self-restraint, which is toxic in a Washington culture that continually breaks the constraints of the Constitution - and Newt has also shown he could care less about such when it gets in the way of his pet agendas, such as when he stood with Hillary and pushed for a federal program for electronic medical records.

Yeah, Newt is knowledgeable and can debate better than the other candidates. So we have to ask - would he be able to overcome his baggage to win the general, and would he take actions as president to truly curtail the growth of the federal behemoth.

For all of his recent talk of federal restraint, his past actions since leaving the House call into question his sincerity of such.

With Perry, at least I get the sense that when he talks of the 10th Amendment, he means it. Doesn't mean Perry wouldn't go all native if he went to DC, but at least that aspect of his current belief system is consistent with his record as governor.

20 posted on 11/19/2011 9:06:37 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: MHGinTN

This deserves repeating:

“Those who raise this issue with a self-righteous echo will actually help Newt overcome the stigma, because so many Americans are very well acquainted with the darker side of divorce and not a few well acquainted with forgiveness.”


21 posted on 11/19/2011 9:07:16 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Gosh darn it! That Obama is so darn lovable /s


22 posted on 11/19/2011 9:07:17 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Baynative
"I hope we defeat the media in this election..."

So do I!...we must.

Newt has not been a shinning light in the matrimony department - however whatever he was seeking he seems to have found it. Which would you rather have a Barney Frank or a Newt Gingrich? Replete with his decampment's, I believe Newt has grown up - watching him very carefully as he would be the most learned president in recent history, far an above what the nation has now...Newt is a man who understands and supports our Constitution and loves his country....worthy of our consideration.

23 posted on 11/19/2011 9:07:17 AM PST by yoe
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To: dirtboy

I don’t think it’s because of the overall weakness of the field but because many folks realize its time for someone who is serious, has a good understanding of history and who can get things done.


24 posted on 11/19/2011 9:10:04 AM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: TBBT

Awww, it can’t be a myth! Richard Belzer said it on Law and Order SVU! /s


25 posted on 11/19/2011 9:10:50 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Gunslingr3
Of course the following will not penetrate your mind, but I'll note it anyway.

Too many of we Americans dive too deeply into careers, so much so that we do not take greater care and cherish the marriage as we strive to succeed. Yes, it is grounded in a type of selfishness. It is also how we open ourselves to the temptations which inevitably arise as the sex drive occasionally out pushes the success drive. As the divorce stats in America support, this had caused a too large number of marriage s to fail. That is a summation of what divorce in America is about.

Newt Gingrich became too deeply committed to succeeding in his career and drift away from a troubled marriage ... how else to describe a marriage joined by a teacher and her younger student? Would that real American men and women would look carefully at the lessons here, and decide that saving their marriage is more important to the health of them and their children and spouse. But alas, this nation is not there.

Marriages fail for a variety of reasons. At the heart of failed marriage is ego. Newt has a huge ego. Frankly, that is one of the aspects which will suit him well in his determination to restore this nation from the brink of European socialism now looming large in our immediate future.

Newt's marriage particulars are much less dangerous than the state of the nation, so I have chosen to set aside that aspect of his life. You can choose to focus upon that if you need to. You have a sovereign vote. But if Newt is not the President in 2013, there is a real likelihood that you will lose that sovereign vote in the future the democrats have planned and the enemy fifth column media is abetting.

The democrat machine has offered up a trap meant to re-elect their socialist leadership --not just Obama, but more democrats in House and Senate. If they can get conservatives assassinating the Republican candidates over character issues common to all humankind, there will be no momentum in November 2012 and no competent candidate to oppose little barry socialist bassturd.

26 posted on 11/19/2011 9:12:59 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
"We have no good candidate enough people can embrace.

With the country facing almost certain financial and perhaps societal collapse who in their right mind would want to be president? The next president is going to have to face terrible choices. We really are going to need a miracle maker in the white house come 21013. Don't believe me? Watch what happens when the super committee report next week. That will be the first of many shoes to drop.

27 posted on 11/19/2011 9:16:58 AM PST by jpsb
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To: dirtboy

We conservatives can see that Rick Perry, or Herman Cain, or Newt Gingrich, or even Michelle Bachmann or Rick Santorum can do a better cnservative job than the current commie-in-chief. and electability is a looming problem, especially with we conservatives doing the dirty work of assassinating the character of each f our own candidates. I have just chosen to set aside the category of personal marital problems because I see Newt as havign the only actually written down for all to contemplate plan to resotre American exceptionalism and perhaps crush the three enemies of We The People America: economic indenture; military fecklessness, and secular humanist rot.


28 posted on 11/19/2011 9:18:16 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
The democrat machine has offered up a trap meant to re-elect their socialist leadership --not just Obama, but more democrats in House and Senate. If they can get conservatives assassinating the Republican candidates over character issues common to all humankind, there will be no momentum in November 2012 and no competent candidate to oppose little barry socialist bassturd.

Yes, you are correct...and the code word will be "hypocrisy."

29 posted on 11/19/2011 9:21:44 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: mylife
Newt has seen zero scrutiny from the press yet

You have got to be kidding me!!! Newt has been one of the most vilified political figures in modern history.(vilified by the liberal MSM)The only folks who have received more "scrutiny from the press" may be Clarence Thomas, Sarah Palin or Robert Bork.

30 posted on 11/19/2011 9:27:35 AM PST by nitzy (A just law does not punish virtue nor reward vice.)
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To: dirtboy

Baggage? Did he smoke crack and sleep with a man?
Is he using a false SS# and Birth Certificate?
Is he hiding his school records?
Did he vote present more than yea or nay when he was in the legislature?
Is he coddling muslim terrorists and demonizing gun owning, god-fearing americans?
Is squashing energy production in the form of pipelines and offshore wells?
NO ONE in the field has ANY baggage compared to the Zero, therefore, baggage will be immaterial in this election. We are driving toward the edge of a precipice. Who can turn the bus around?


31 posted on 11/19/2011 9:27:35 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: dirtboy
"withstanding the slime machine MSM/DNC attacks?"

What I really want to see is for him to (1) sue them (2) win judgement (3) get damages of $1,000,000 or more (4) make them publish a grovelling apology (5) all before the election. Dreams are wonderful!

32 posted on 11/19/2011 9:33:15 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: ez
Oh, puh-leeze. It is well known that the MSM will give the Dem candidate a pass.

Pretending otherwise is wishful thinking.

But my other point stands - what does Newt's lack of self-control in his personal life tell us about how he would function as president? Newt's antics go well beyond having one marriage go bad, getting divorced and then remarrying.

33 posted on 11/19/2011 9:34:30 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: nitzy

I am speaking to this current election.
Newt has seen zero scrutiny, nor has Romney.


34 posted on 11/19/2011 9:35:10 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: truthkeeper
The way the left will posture the issues, we might find more than 50% of us are being tarred as hypocrites for not being little jesuses the way the left claims we must be in order to be 'real Christians'. Of course they could never meet their own standard which they dangle in your face as proof you are not 'worthy' thus any you would support are not worthy either. Democrats are the children of their father. He has been an accuser of the brethren since the beginning. He is the father of lies, a murderer from the start. If you doubt they are of their father, look at their devilish defense and promotion of slaughtering the alive unborn as 'utilitarian, expedient, enlightened'.

Frankly, I'm a sinner. If I accept the left's definition of hypocrisy then I cannot condemn their devilish agenda. Sorry, I won't allow them to define the words and the issues on their twisted secular terms. If you're a true conservative Christian, you shouldn't either.

I'm very much a sinner. I'm also very much forgiven, based upon the Promises of God found in the Grace of God in Christ.

35 posted on 11/19/2011 9:36:47 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

LOL
lotsa ‘stone casters’ here !


36 posted on 11/19/2011 9:37:34 AM PST by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: ez

Thank you for a moment of clarity.

The city dog catcher should be able to out shine Obama on electability.
We need to pick the candidate that can get things done.


37 posted on 11/19/2011 9:37:36 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dirtboy
Thanks! You hit the nail on the head with that post.

How can conservatives trust him to be good to them after the way he treated multiple wives?...I am talking about the affairs. This will all come out when the media starts really focusing on him, and I don't think it will be pretty.

Also, when he is not under the pressure of an election, he has shown to go way left. He has been talking fiscal conservatism, but the way he gave energy to the left by trashing the Ryan economic plan is quite revealing. Not to mention the endorsement of Scozzafava in an election where conservatives (tea party) were trying to send a message, was a sucker punch to conservatives.

38 posted on 11/19/2011 9:38:14 AM PST by Moorings
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To: SumProVita

The people aquainted with the “darker side” are usually the women who were dumped unceremoniously by a man who decided to trade them in for a younger, prettier model.

I’m not sure those women are going to sympathize with Newt Gingrich for having to “suffer through” two divorces, any more than we feel bad for the kids who killed their parents and are now orphans.


39 posted on 11/19/2011 9:38:49 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: MHGinTN
Great post - post of the month, IMO - and I agree with every word.

We need to keep our eye on the ball.

40 posted on 11/19/2011 9:39:09 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: MHGinTN

50% of marriages end in divorce. I don’t think we’ve reached the point where have the PEOPLE have gotten divorced. Remember, for every person like you with two divorces, 2 couples can have had no divorces and the overal number of failed marriages would be 50%.


41 posted on 11/19/2011 9:40:31 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

With all this practice, you’re getting really adept at that hyperbole thing. Is it improving your writing?


42 posted on 11/19/2011 9:41:05 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I really don’t know for sure since I have not seen recent stats. That’s why I framed the clause the way I did.


43 posted on 11/19/2011 9:42:56 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: ez
"NO ONE in the field has ANY baggage compared to the Zero"

And the constant stories in the MSM must be driving him crazy! /sarc

44 posted on 11/19/2011 9:45:08 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: ez
"NO ONE in the field has ANY baggage compared to the Zero"

And the constant stories in the MSM must be driving him crazy! /sarc

45 posted on 11/19/2011 9:47:43 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: ez
Um, reverse the coin and ask which candidate will be the attack focus of the fifth column media we've euphemistically called the fourth estate? Baggage will be the only weapon the media can produce to try and obfuscate the absolute bankruptcy of their little barry democrat demigod. What we must accomplish is the trumping of their baggage card on the grounds of it's irrelevance compared to Barry Bassturd's real baggage they refuse to report as they herd too many ignorant democrat constituencies to the next election. How do we do that?
46 posted on 11/19/2011 9:50:36 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: yoe
One of the reasons Newt is striking a nerve with the voters is because he takes on the media and tells it like it is.

Immunity to the rule of law by elected politicians is something that must be addressed and dealt with. I'd like to see Newt get into this. If all of the candidates just accept the lawlessness and corruption that has become ingrained in DeeCee, there is really no use in looking toward the future with any optimism. It will simply become everyone for themselves.

47 posted on 11/19/2011 9:55:49 AM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: aumrl

LOL
lotsa ‘stone casters’ here !

Giving a view in a matter is not equal to trying to kill someone with a stone. Try another refrence.


48 posted on 11/19/2011 9:56:37 AM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: MHGinTN

I doubt the men who had their wives cheat on them and then dump them are going to feel much MORE sympathy for a guy who cheated on his wife and dumped her.

I wasn’t the one who did the whole “darker side of divorce” argument, which was by it’s nature an emotional argument full of hyperbole. My point stands — to the degree that argument had any validity, the sympathies are going to rest with those who were wronged in a marriage, not with the guy who committed the indiscretions and was the cause of the divorce.


49 posted on 11/19/2011 10:02:02 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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I’ve been working on my use of hyperbole for a number of years now. And having been one cheated on and gone through a divorce, I can as easily claim I know how to forgive and am offended by the media trying to use the tragedy of divorce as a measn to shut conservatives up in their opposition to the leftist destruction of American, and especially trying to squelch conservative opposition to the erasing of taboo structures in society which protect the society from the cancer of rising degeneracy. I can condemn ifidelity and praise avoidance of divorce while still supporting a political candidate on the grounds of God’s forgiveness. The left’s accusation of hypocrisy can be damned along with their own blatant hypocrisy and devilish agenda.


50 posted on 11/19/2011 10:11:38 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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