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Rick Santorum ^

Posted on 11/19/2011 5:49:39 PM PST by Indy Pendance

I took this quiz, and I was 92% in favor of Rick Santorum for president, which surprised me. It's a short, twenty question quiz.

My question, we're going through all the candidates, will we give Santorum his day in the sun?


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I'm not advocating, just inquiring. Does he have a chance? We all wrote off Herman Cain in the early days, then he surged. Will Santorum surge? I like him a lot, but I'm realistic. So, what do you all think?
1 posted on 11/19/2011 5:49:40 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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2 posted on 11/19/2011 5:51:07 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Indy Pendance

“Does he have a chance?” No
“Will Santorum surge?” No


3 posted on 11/19/2011 5:52:11 PM PST by Mountain Mary (Awaken Oh America.)
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To: Indy Pendance
Santorum lost any possibility of getting my support when he chose to back that RINO-turncoat Arlen Specter over a TRUE conservative, Pat Toomey.

FURS!!!!

Santorum needs to pack it in and stop being a nuisance. He's not going anywhere except into the history books as a footnote.
4 posted on 11/19/2011 5:52:45 PM PST by mkjessup (I stand with Herman Cain, a God-fearing, Jesus-loving, Constitution-honoring PATRIOT.)
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To: Indy Pendance

Don’t know much about him but having watched the last few debates only - I thought he did great and wondered by he was at only 1 or 2%.


5 posted on 11/19/2011 5:54:22 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Mountain Mary

Why? No is incomplete.


6 posted on 11/19/2011 5:55:47 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: presently no screen name

Same here, I don’t know a lot, but isn’t this someone we should look into?


7 posted on 11/19/2011 5:56:40 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance

He was awesome at today’s debate. I was crying.


8 posted on 11/19/2011 5:56:44 PM PST by Yaelle (Still helping the Cain train wheels go round.)
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To: Indy Pendance

Santorum comes off as a poorly on TV. He just has zero “it” factor. Does not come off as a leader at all. I interviewed him in person for 20 minutes. Comes off better in person.


9 posted on 11/19/2011 5:56:44 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: mkjessup

Santorum endorsed Specter, Newt endorsed Scozzafava, Perry endorsed, I think, Rudy? Any other lousy endorsements? Who has Romney, Cain, Bachman endorsed?


10 posted on 11/19/2011 5:56:49 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Indy Pendance

Doomberg came out on the bottom of my list, below Zer0.


11 posted on 11/19/2011 5:56:59 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Indy Pendance
As a resident of PA, I have several problems with Santorum:

1) his backing of Specter over Toomey in 2004

2) His continued support for earmarks.

3) His absorbtion into the Beltway culture

4) And the fact that he got his arse kicked in 2006 - as an incumbent.

12 posted on 11/19/2011 5:57:46 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: C. Edmund Wright

We posted the same second. He was good today.


13 posted on 11/19/2011 5:57:54 PM PST by Yaelle (Still helping the Cain train wheels go round.)
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To: Indy Pendance

Lost his home state of Pennsylvania by like 18 points last time around. It really undermines his claim that he can win PA and rust belt states. He also just doesn’t come across well. I can’t put my finger on it, but I guess he just seems too uptight and not very presidential. Finally, Santorum is sort of known as big on social issues and this election will likely be far more about the economy.

Santorum is a good man, but I don’t think he is going to see a poll boomlet like Cain and Gingrich have. Actually, I’d be thrilled to have either Santorum or Bachmann is President, but I really don’t think they have any chance. For whatever reason, they just don’t project the presidential image I guess people are looking for.


14 posted on 11/19/2011 5:58:40 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Santorum is not my first choice for president. But my first 50 choices aren’t running for president. So I am strongly considering him. It’s laughable to dismiss Santorum and at the same time talk up one of the other candidates running. They all have serious shortcomings.


15 posted on 11/19/2011 5:59:42 PM PST by Crichton
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To: Yaelle

Can you dig up and post the you tube or equivalent? I’m just inquiring. I hadn’t considered him, but, the last day or so, he’s been popping up on my radar screen.

I think a surge might be happening.


16 posted on 11/19/2011 6:00:45 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: mkjessup
when he chose to back that RINO-turncoat Arlen Specter

True...but all candidates are showing their warts.

Is the Toomey thing the litmus test as opposed to, say, speaking out in favor of global warming?

17 posted on 11/19/2011 6:00:53 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Indy Pendance

he comes across as having a chip on his shoulder—as if he’s owed public office.


18 posted on 11/19/2011 6:01:11 PM PST by ken21
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To: Indy Pendance
Santorum is a RINO cheat. Just because he spews the right sound bites does not make him a conservative. He earmarked money for community block development programs, voted for subsidies for ethanol supposedly to prevent global warming, demanded money for Amtrak projects to help unions, endorsed Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey and triangulated his position on abortion in 1990. He repeatedly voted to raise the debt limit.

Right now, he is positioning himself to be the running mate of Mitt Romney so that in case Romney gets the nomination, the frauds can come and tell us that we should support the ticket since the VP choice is that of a conservative.

Santorum is also acceptable to Karl Rove which makes him yet another crooked politician whose rhetoric is conservative but whose record is liberal.

19 posted on 11/19/2011 6:01:53 PM PST by JimWayne
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To: Indy Pendance

Something is screwy with that survey. I changed some answers and it keeps putting Santorum at the top. Even changing some to liberal answers as an experiment. (I even changed answers to things like supporting Obamacare, etc and Santorum always ended up on top..)

I wonder if that site is owned by a certain campaign’s camp?


20 posted on 11/19/2011 6:02:16 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Longbow1969

>> He also just doesn’t come across well. I can’t put my finger on it, but I guess he just seems too uptight and not very presidential. Finally, Santorum is sort of known as big on social issues and this election will likely be far more about the economy. >>

One reason he comes across poorly is that he’s trying to niche his way through Iowa by being THE MOST interested in social issues and has really been very snippy towards other GOP candidates who believe as he does but do not focus on the social issues as much.

That shows he is not a man for this season. This season is about removing the socialists from power (more than just economy, but related to the economy for sure). It is not a season to say nanny nanny boo boo I am MORE pro life than you you. And that’s kind of his campaign. Nice guy. Believes the right things. Not a man for today.


21 posted on 11/19/2011 6:02:44 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: Indy Pendance

Yep, that poll is screwy. I just changed all the answers to ‘liberal’ answers and it still shows Santorum on top.

1. Ideal Theoretical Candidate (100%)

2. Rick Santorum* (74%)


22 posted on 11/19/2011 6:03:48 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Indy Pendance

He would make a great VP. He would make a great President, too, but for some reason he just didn’t make it into the top tier. I like him a lot!!


23 posted on 11/19/2011 6:03:54 PM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Indy Pendance

Mine says I support Santorum by 92 percent. Michele Bachmann at 84 percent and Herman Cain by 82 percent. Newt Ginrige by 54 percent. Ricardo Perry is at 18 percent. Hillary Clinton is 16 percent. Can you imagine that Ricardo Perry and Hillary Clinton are practically the same. No wonder I can’t stand Perry and finally can say he is a true LIBERAL!!!!!


24 posted on 11/19/2011 6:04:35 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: dirtboy
Obama or Santorum, just saying? Shouldn't we find out about who this guy is? He backed some dumb stuff, what guy hasn't? The perfect candidate can't be generated off a computer model. We're dealing with humans who have human issues.

The perfect candidate is YOU.

25 posted on 11/19/2011 6:05:11 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Crichton

>> It’s laughable to dismiss Santorum and at the same time talk up one of the other candidates running. They all have serious shortcomings. >>

Setting other candidates aside, I tend to dismiss Santorum because I don’t think he really knows what this election cycle is about. But you are right, they all do have their problems.


26 posted on 11/19/2011 6:05:50 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: Indy Pendance

I think Santorum was a good man. Karl Rove wrecked his career when he twisted his arm to endorse Arlen Specter. I think Rove and Bush told him to endorse Specter or else.

It was all downhill from there. I urged people at the time to support Santorum, because he was an excellent Senator with a good record. But the Specter endorsement finished him, and he never recovered.

Good work, Karl! How’d that work out?


27 posted on 11/19/2011 6:06:09 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.2)
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To: Persevero

Santorum was also my guy at 93%. I also disagreed with his support for Santorum, but at least he endorsed a Republican. Perry supported Al Gore! If the worst thing in Santorum’s history is supporting a Republican incumbent one time, then it is time to give him a chance seeing that I bet a lot of us here would agree with him on the issues more than we would any other candidate.


28 posted on 11/19/2011 6:06:19 PM PST by Controlling Legal Authority
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To: Indy Pendance

Interesting - I also showed Sen. Santorum in #1 at 88% and Mr. Cain at 60% (Mr. Gingrich is also in the 80%s). It doesn’t mean I am going to switch since it is too small a number of questions to actually portray the candidates.


29 posted on 11/19/2011 6:06:30 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012 -- the man we need at the time we need him)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
It is not a season to say nanny nanny boo boo I am MORE pro life than you you. And that’s kind of his campaign. Nice guy. Believes the right things. Not a man for today.

Good points, good analysis.

30 posted on 11/19/2011 6:06:40 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Indy Pendance
I see that the Rick haters didn't take long to roll in here to slam him for an endorsement and losing a very tough election stacked against him. I enjoy that even though the other candidates have totally terrible records as far as being a Conservative, Rick keeps getting slammed for this stupid stuff. I will take Santorum any day of the week over the other open borders, pro global warming, Nat'l sales taxing, Romneycaring, mandating, stumbling, bumbling, blame America first candidates.


31 posted on 11/19/2011 6:06:49 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Indy Pendance
Says I should vote for Hitler!
32 posted on 11/19/2011 6:08:07 PM PST by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: Cicero

Karl Rove wrecked his career when he twisted his arm to endorse Arlen Specter.


If he could not stand up to Rove, if he were president... He’s weak, like McQueary is weak.


33 posted on 11/19/2011 6:09:50 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Indy Pendance
NO! He is an Elsie Hillman style republican. No!

NO!

34 posted on 11/19/2011 6:10:06 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Indy Pendance

If Santorum had a snowball’s, he would have moved up the ladder by now.


35 posted on 11/19/2011 6:10:19 PM PST by Jonty30
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To: Indy Pendance

Not everybody is presidential.


36 posted on 11/19/2011 6:12:32 PM PST by Jonty30
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To: freedumb2003

Well here were my results of that test..
Romney 83%
Newt 83%
Santorum 80%

Mmmm— and I still lean toward Cain at this point. Go figure!


37 posted on 11/19/2011 6:14:41 PM PST by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: Longbow1969

FTR, I am calling BS on this metric - I just took it and it had Santorum as my top at 97 and Newt next at 96. Now that just makes no sense, since I put lower priorities on things I know Santorum would be high as a test.

I think there’s a Santorum connection to this thing. Besides, treating these issues as equally weighted questions is just not reality, and it doesn’t measure how effective we think candidates will be in achieving anything.

That’s why I’ve never thought too much of these check box surveys. They are somewhat informative, but really don’t translate to action and real life at all.


38 posted on 11/19/2011 6:15:05 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: mnehring

I really thought of that, and was going to post that concern. The bigger thought is, is Santorum a player we’re overlooking? Isn’t this what the primary process is for?


39 posted on 11/19/2011 6:15:26 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance

The problem is he could not win in his own state in 2006.


41 posted on 11/19/2011 6:16:12 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: Indy Pendance

The accuracy of that poll is somewhat in question, when my results show Jeb Bush with a 9% higher rating than Herman Cain. It also shows Newt as my #1 pick (HAH!)at 84% with Santorum second, Palin 3rd.

I won’t say it’s rigged, but Jeb Bush rating above Bobby Jindal is also suspect, IMHO.


42 posted on 11/19/2011 6:16:20 PM PST by Don W (You can forget what you do for a living when your knees are in the breeze.)
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To: mnehring
I got Newtie slightly above Santorum.

A HIGHLY questionable outcome.

43 posted on 11/19/2011 6:16:27 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Yaelle

There was a debate today?


44 posted on 11/19/2011 6:16:55 PM PST by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: mnehring

More proof of the screwiness of that quiz is it said that Mitt Romney was my #2 candidate after Santorum.


45 posted on 11/19/2011 6:17:03 PM PST by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: Persevero
Santorum endorsed Specter, Newt endorsed Scozzafava, Perry endorsed, I think, Rudy? Any other lousy endorsements? Who has Romney, Cain, Bachman endorsed?

Nice deflection. Santorum is the candidate we're talking about. He had a clear choice to go with Toomey, he (and our former RINO-Prez) GWB threw their support to Snarlin' Arlen who repaid that favor by switching to the 'Rats.

We're not talking about Newt, Perry, Cain or Bachmann.

The topic is Sanatorium, which is where Rick should be.

I have absolutely no use for him.
46 posted on 11/19/2011 6:17:38 PM PST by mkjessup (I stand with Herman Cain, a God-fearing, Jesus-loving, Constitution-honoring PATRIOT.)
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To: Indy Pendance

None of them have a chance as long as the infighting continues...You know that’s what the plan was from the beginning. Time is short.


47 posted on 11/19/2011 6:18:05 PM PST by hope
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To: Indy Pendance

Santorum couldn’t get re-elected in his own state. He has no chance of winning a national election.


48 posted on 11/19/2011 6:18:35 PM PST by Astronaut
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To: mnehring

After seeing your response and mine and some others, I am more and more convinced the poll is BS from the get go.


49 posted on 11/19/2011 6:18:37 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: Indy Pendance
I never wrote off Herman Cain. I wrote off Santorum, (along with some other's). Santorum is too edgy. As in - Tense, nervous, jumpy or irritable: "he became edgy and defensive".

Every debate he's seemed like someone hopped up, ready to explode. Just way over the top. IMHO

50 posted on 11/19/2011 6:18:42 PM PST by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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