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Posted on 11/19/2011 5:49:39 PM PST by Indy Pendance
I took this quiz, and I was 92% in favor of Rick Santorum for president, which surprised me. It's a short, twenty question quiz.
My question, we're going through all the candidates, will we give Santorum his day in the sun?
It’s rigged or at least very inaccurate. Too many people are scoring Santorum too high and CAIN too low - and we know Santorum thinks Cain is his target.
He’s wrong about that, and this poll is wrong period.
Nope, I doubt he'll make it after the first couple of primaries. He isn't even raising enough money to cover primary filing fees for more than a few States. He has only raised about $500K and spent it all. The filing fees vary, but from a few other posts where folks have calculated it, it would cost anywhere between $2-$4Million for all the primary filing fees and logistics around that alone (not counting advertising, promotions, other legal stuff, staff, offices, etc).
He wouldn't be a bad president and he is right on most issues. BUT, I have to call the reality of the simple logistics (IMHO).
He would need some sort of PR explosion like Cain got after the first couple of debates, to turn it around. At this stage of the game, something like saving somebody's life at a rally type of PR event.
Insincerity. Perceived or not, INSINCERITY!
There ya go.
Playing around with that site, it looks like anyone can create a survey and the way you can add weightings to each variable, it is easy to create this that favors a single candidate.
LOL, I got Mitt then Paul as the ones right under Santorum when I changed all the answers to Liberal answers.
I got Cain then Bachmann right under Santorum when I changed all the answers to Conservative answers.
As I’ve said before, he’s my first choice. Not holding my nose this election. Still donating. Still no regrets.
A quick point: Santorum lost by 18 points in part because he decided to stick with his convictions in an election cycle when other Republicans were running for the center. One would think that he should get some credit for that—principles being more important than victory at any cost.
And, as to the contention that he is running to be Romney’s VP: That’s nonsense. The ticket won’t consist of two people from the Northeast and Santorum is smart enough to know that. (Remember, too, that in the last major debate it was Santorum who initiated the attack on Romney about Obamacare.)
And you may not agree with his decision to support Specter, but his reasoning was that, in a closely divided Senate, a Specter victory would enable President Bush’s judicial nominees not to be bottled up in committee (hence, Roberts and Alito), whereas a Toomey loss might create a Democratic Senate and a Supreme Court setback.
if the Steelers are beating the Eagles 35-3 at the end of the 3rd period, do the Eagles have a chance?
Santorum: too far behind, and only 6 weeks to caucus day. No resources. Small staff. No money.
I’m not a pro or con Santorum supporter. I never considered him. This thread is about, let’s look at him.
This quiz is a great summary of what is wrong with the Santorum campaign - great content, but all packaged up and delivered in an unappealing and inaccessible way (small font on similar-colored, low-contrast background). I had to go get my glasses just to read the darn thing.
He has no chance. He is a preacher... not a president.
They also had a son, Gabriel, who was born at twenty weeks in 1996. He died in a matter o hours. They took the child home overnight to introduce him to their other children. Many Scumbag Democrats and feckless Republicans point to this as strange, when it is an act of true love for their child and a gift to their other children to see that they had a brother.
Rick Santorum was beaten in 2006, mostly due to his loyalty to GWB for endorsing someone he didn't want to endorse. He ran against Bob ‘scumbag, liar, ne’r do well son’ Casey. Son and namesake of Robert Casey, Sr. The former PA Governor. CAsey a fake pro-lifer and suposed Blue Dog has been a reliable Obama minion. He was screwed over royally by the press over living arrangements while in DC because he had his kids enrolled in a Cyber School so they could be with him in DC. His residency was disputed and he was run through the dirt. He owned a home next to his inlaws in PA and one in the DC suburbs. The Democrat machine tresspassed and thugged up charges against him.
He is a great guy and would make a great president. He walks pro-life and family values like he talks it and we could and probably will do a damn sight worse than him.
Not a chance he betrayed conservatives with his Specter endorsement so he dug his own hole.
Santorum is one of the “cleanest” candidates running. Too bad so many here are swayed by the msm’s hatred of the man. Seems the worst that can be said is his support of Arlen sphincter at GW’s request. He is as solid a Conservative as any one running.
Unfortunately, Rove was an absolute jerk. He withheld support from Bill Simon in California, running against Gray Davis, and Simon lost by around 3%. No campaign funds, as the new head of the California GOP installed by Rove refused to raise any for him. Then Rove stepped in again, and we got Arnie, instead, after conservatives recalled Gray Davis.
Santorum had previously won a couple of races, but they were very close. He was too conservative for the state’s voters at that time to make it easy. So, Rove basically gave him a no-win offer. Refuse the endorsement, and you get no money or support. And, as it turned out, endorse Spectre and the conservative base stays home.
Santorum justified it by the fact that Arlen had earlier endorsed him. In any case, Rove managed to kill another Republican seat with his RINO stupidity.
With that info, then I would suspect our OP is up to something.....
His personality won’t win in a general and most likely not in a primary.
Problem is - The NWS does pretty good work on a day to day to 10 day basis.
All sorts of better candidates for elimination come to my mind.
. What would be your ideal candidate's position on BALANCING CIVIL LIBERTIES & SECURITY?
Just the use of the term "civil liberties" is loaded and its useiìndicates a mindset that sees "liberties" -they aren't rights- flowing from the government. The questions and range of choices among the answers shows the questionnaire to stem from someone with a "government" outlook. My scored second choice of Romny shows that the thing takes what Romney says most recently as his position. I think my attitude toward Santorum just got a little more skeptical.
Insincerity. Perceived or not, INSINCERITY.
I think you hit the nail on the head here.
Perception is reality in politics, particularly in polling.
People who tend to do presidential debates, when there is only the slimmest of possibilities of actually standing a chanve, do so to raise their profile.
They are not seriously considering a run to be the President or VP.
In Santorum’s case, he’s trying to get his Senate seat back.
I do not like Santorum much at all, but I respect your reasons for supporting him. And I do not hold his loss in 06 against him. That was an awful election for all conservatives due to national mood, Bush’ weak leadership, and a lot of other problems.
Same with Cain in 04 in Georgia - in 04 it was a “play it safe” year for Republicans and Georgia Republicans played it safe.
2012 will be somewhat like 2010 - which is to say very different from anything we’ve ever seen until now. People who were right for 04 and 06 would not be right today.
Having said that, I don’t think Santorum is right for today either, but he is impressive in a number of ways.
I don’t need to take a quiz. I like Santorum a lot. I’ve always liked him. I know people are really ticked that he supported Specctor, but I think he’s a loyal republican. My guess is that George Bush asked him to support Spector to preserve some kind of coalition. Then Spector turned on Bush and sold out, after all.
So, how long can you hold a grudge for a political decision? Santorum is right for all the right reasons. He doesn’t waver on LIFE, even when it is his own child. To me, that is a lot more important than who you are backing in a Senatorial election.
Interesting your description of Santorum.
A couple of weeks ago when Herman Cain was asked by Jay Leno to describe his opponents in one word Cain said “tense” for Santorum. Then when prompted by Leno Mr. Cain used almost word for word your description!
Not a good election cycle for the Ricks.
After he endorsed Spectre over Toomey, most FReeper wrote him off.
I am SICK of everyone's pet candidate being presented as the only choice between that person and Obama. We have a large slate of candidates at this point. They all have strengths and weaknesses. I am pointing out the weaknesses of Santorum, in an age when we need someone not heavily steeped in the Beltway mindset. IMO Santorum is.
I took it twice, one with genuine answers (Santorum was first with 94%, Obama last with 9%) and one with leftist answers (Obama was first with 93%, Santorum was tied for last with 0%).
I'm not. I like Santorum...I just realize, with his campaign numbers lower than that of Jon Hunstsman's he has no chance.
>> Santorum is right for all the right reasons. He doesnt waver on LIFE, even when it is his own child. To me, that is a lot more important than who you are backing in a Senatorial election. >>
I disagree. When choosing a neighbor, a preacher, a friend, a husband - yes. When choosing a President? I don’t think necessarily so.
so... no matter what answer.... you get Santorum??
Initially yes, as it seemed pretty much everyone else.
I am testing one more thing though, thinking it may not be ‘resetting’ all the answers I am going to try again clearing cache and all that, before I just left the window open, changed some answers, and recalculated.
He did a great job today on the Forum/debate. His personal story about his child was very moving. He seems like a nice guy. But I think he lacks the x factor and simply won’t be able to bring in the votes.
I see him as better than some and not as good as others.
I am already committed to the guy I want to see as our next president, Newt Gingrich.
I don't care what anyone says, Iowa doesn't mean beans.
Remember Alan Keyes that won?
I’M not a Perry supporter.
I believe Rick Santorum should be looked at. This is not from the rabids. I’m a normal American mom.
National Weather Service.
Some kind of State, Penn/ private weather company bias.
Spot on. And, he can't stop whining.
When he was ready he returned to PA and ran against democrat Doug Walgren. One of his main accusations against Walgren was that Walgren did not (mainly) live in PA. Santorum won. In his last race it was argued that Santorums children did not attend the PA schools he claimed they did and were in fact mostly in VA.
HE IS A BELTWAY REPUBLICAN! Also IIRC he works or worked for the Eckert Seamans law firm which may be Atty Jim Eckert. (I do not know positively but it crossed my mind) Eckert is well known to be the local atty who represnts anyone who is guilty.
If someone is caught red handed at a murder scene Eckert use to be the go to guy. He made the most absurd arguments!
If Santorum is connected with him in any way - and I'm not positive he is - RUN!
Even if he isn't he IS connected with the Hillman's and they are Rove type, beltway, country club republicans. Kiss McCains butt republican's. Vote for anything with a GOP stamp republicans.
I have been to the Hillman's home in Pittsburgh several times both when my parents were part of the GOP thing and by myself.
The place STINKS of RINO!
I don’t know, but looking at the “politifact” ratings that designated Obama, Clinton and Biden as being “Mostly true” and half true... I don’t put much weight into their quiz results. Also, I did not see where I disagreed fundamentally with candidates that they scored way low for my answers : /
Which is absurd. He made a mistake and caved to White House pressure seven years ago. Every candidate in the race has screwed up, some of them spectacularly. Santorum probably has the least amount of baggage of them all.
There are so many other federal agencies/programs (need I really list them) that deserve to go but he picked on that one.
Clicking on ‘more info’ after each persons poll totals is an eye opener and more ‘telling’ of just how this poll was set up.
It’s ‘slanted’ just a ‘tad’..
I got 91% Santorum, both for actual candidates running AND for all politicians. Hmm.