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Posted on 11/19/2011 5:49:39 PM PST by Indy Pendance

I took this quiz, and I was 92% in favor of Rick Santorum for president, which surprised me. It's a short, twenty question quiz.

My question, we're going through all the candidates, will we give Santorum his day in the sun?


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To: Don W

It’s rigged or at least very inaccurate. Too many people are scoring Santorum too high and CAIN too low - and we know Santorum thinks Cain is his target.

He’s wrong about that, and this poll is wrong period.


51 posted on 11/19/2011 6:20:35 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: Indy Pendance
The bigger thought is, is Santorum a player we’re overlooking?

Nope, I doubt he'll make it after the first couple of primaries. He isn't even raising enough money to cover primary filing fees for more than a few States. He has only raised about $500K and spent it all. The filing fees vary, but from a few other posts where folks have calculated it, it would cost anywhere between $2-$4Million for all the primary filing fees and logistics around that alone (not counting advertising, promotions, other legal stuff, staff, offices, etc).

He wouldn't be a bad president and he is right on most issues. BUT, I have to call the reality of the simple logistics (IMHO).

He would need some sort of PR explosion like Cain got after the first couple of debates, to turn it around. At this stage of the game, something like saving somebody's life at a rally type of PR event.

52 posted on 11/19/2011 6:21:15 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Longbow1969
I can’t put my finger on it

Insincerity. Perceived or not, INSINCERITY!

There ya go.

53 posted on 11/19/2011 6:22:14 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Playing around with that site, it looks like anyone can create a survey and the way you can add weightings to each variable, it is easy to create this that favors a single candidate.


54 posted on 11/19/2011 6:23:05 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Indy Pendance
Bogus quiz. Flip flopper Mittens was higher than Palin on my list. Surely the quiz maker is a RINO and doesn't input the correct RINO response. It's heavily skewed to RINO sellouts Santorum, Mittens, and Pelosi Couch Potato Newt.
55 posted on 11/19/2011 6:24:52 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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To: ConservativeTeen

LOL, I got Mitt then Paul as the ones right under Santorum when I changed all the answers to Liberal answers.

I got Cain then Bachmann right under Santorum when I changed all the answers to Conservative answers.


56 posted on 11/19/2011 6:25:17 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Indy Pendance

As I’ve said before, he’s my first choice. Not holding my nose this election. Still donating. Still no regrets.

A quick point: Santorum lost by 18 points in part because he decided to stick with his convictions in an election cycle when other Republicans were running for the center. One would think that he should get some credit for that—principles being more important than victory at any cost.

And, as to the contention that he is running to be Romney’s VP: That’s nonsense. The ticket won’t consist of two people from the Northeast and Santorum is smart enough to know that. (Remember, too, that in the last major debate it was Santorum who initiated the attack on Romney about Obamacare.)

And you may not agree with his decision to support Specter, but his reasoning was that, in a closely divided Senate, a Specter victory would enable President Bush’s judicial nominees not to be bottled up in committee (hence, Roberts and Alito), whereas a Toomey loss might create a Democratic Senate and a Supreme Court setback.


57 posted on 11/19/2011 6:27:13 PM PST by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: Indy Pendance

if the Steelers are beating the Eagles 35-3 at the end of the 3rd period, do the Eagles have a chance?

Santorum: too far behind, and only 6 weeks to caucus day. No resources. Small staff. No money.


58 posted on 11/19/2011 6:27:27 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (I will go back to New Hampshire to campaign.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I’m not a pro or con Santorum supporter. I never considered him. This thread is about, let’s look at him.


59 posted on 11/19/2011 6:27:34 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance

This quiz is a great summary of what is wrong with the Santorum campaign - great content, but all packaged up and delivered in an unappealing and inaccessible way (small font on similar-colored, low-contrast background). I had to go get my glasses just to read the darn thing.


60 posted on 11/19/2011 6:27:52 PM PST by Scutter
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To: Indy Pendance

He has no chance. He is a preacher... not a president.


61 posted on 11/19/2011 6:28:14 PM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Indy Pendance
Rick is a great guy. he has seven kids and been married over twenty years.His youngest daughter, Bella, is a special needs child who was diagnosed with Trisomy 18, a serious genetic disorder which is fatal before birth in 90 per cent of cases.sent home on Hospice care they have worked with her & she is still alive at 3 1/2 years.

They also had a son, Gabriel, who was born at twenty weeks in 1996. He died in a matter o hours. They took the child home overnight to introduce him to their other children. Many Scumbag Democrats and feckless Republicans point to this as strange, when it is an act of true love for their child and a gift to their other children to see that they had a brother.

Rick Santorum was beaten in 2006, mostly due to his loyalty to GWB for endorsing someone he didn't want to endorse. He ran against Bob ‘scumbag, liar, ne’r do well son’ Casey. Son and namesake of Robert Casey, Sr. The former PA Governor. CAsey a fake pro-lifer and suposed Blue Dog has been a reliable Obama minion. He was screwed over royally by the press over living arrangements while in DC because he had his kids enrolled in a Cyber School so they could be with him in DC. His residency was disputed and he was run through the dirt. He owned a home next to his inlaws in PA and one in the DC suburbs. The Democrat machine tresspassed and thugged up charges against him.

He is a great guy and would make a great president. He walks pro-life and family values like he talks it and we could and probably will do a damn sight worse than him.

62 posted on 11/19/2011 6:29:19 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Indy Pendance

Not a chance he betrayed conservatives with his Specter endorsement so he dug his own hole.


63 posted on 11/19/2011 6:31:32 PM PST by Breto (never accept the premise)
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To: Indy Pendance

Santorum is one of the “cleanest” candidates running. Too bad so many here are swayed by the msm’s hatred of the man. Seems the worst that can be said is his support of Arlen sphincter at GW’s request. He is as solid a Conservative as any one running.


64 posted on 11/19/2011 6:32:32 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: SaraJohnson

Unfortunately, Rove was an absolute jerk. He withheld support from Bill Simon in California, running against Gray Davis, and Simon lost by around 3%. No campaign funds, as the new head of the California GOP installed by Rove refused to raise any for him. Then Rove stepped in again, and we got Arnie, instead, after conservatives recalled Gray Davis.

Santorum had previously won a couple of races, but they were very close. He was too conservative for the state’s voters at that time to make it easy. So, Rove basically gave him a no-win offer. Refuse the endorsement, and you get no money or support. And, as it turned out, endorse Spectre and the conservative base stays home.

Santorum justified it by the fact that Arlen had earlier endorsed him. In any case, Rove managed to kill another Republican seat with his RINO stupidity.


65 posted on 11/19/2011 6:32:54 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.2)
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To: mnehring

With that info, then I would suspect our OP is up to something.....


66 posted on 11/19/2011 6:33:06 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: mkjessup

His personality won’t win in a general and most likely not in a primary.


67 posted on 11/19/2011 6:33:50 PM PST by not2worry
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To: Eagles6
I think Rick was the one who wanted to get rid of the NWS as the first agency/dept to go.

Problem is - The NWS does pretty good work on a day to day to 10 day basis.

All sorts of better candidates for elimination come to my mind.

68 posted on 11/19/2011 6:34:59 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: musicman
Some of the questions imply positions already in cement which I would oppose.

. What would be your ideal candidate's position on BALANCING CIVIL LIBERTIES & SECURITY?

Just the use of the term "civil liberties" is loaded and its useiìndicates a mindset that sees "liberties" -they aren't rights- flowing from the government. The questions and range of choices among the answers shows the questionnaire to stem from someone with a "government" outlook. My scored second choice of Romny shows that the thing takes what Romney says most recently as his position. I think my attitude toward Santorum just got a little more skeptical.

69 posted on 11/19/2011 6:35:17 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: prisoner6

Insincerity. Perceived or not, INSINCERITY.

_______________________

I think you hit the nail on the head here.

Perception is reality in politics, particularly in polling.


70 posted on 11/19/2011 6:35:32 PM PST by I_Like_Spam
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

People who tend to do presidential debates, when there is only the slimmest of possibilities of actually standing a chanve, do so to raise their profile.

They are not seriously considering a run to be the President or VP.

In Santorum’s case, he’s trying to get his Senate seat back.


71 posted on 11/19/2011 6:37:41 PM PST by Jonty30
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

I do not like Santorum much at all, but I respect your reasons for supporting him. And I do not hold his loss in 06 against him. That was an awful election for all conservatives due to national mood, Bush’ weak leadership, and a lot of other problems.

Same with Cain in 04 in Georgia - in 04 it was a “play it safe” year for Republicans and Georgia Republicans played it safe.

2012 will be somewhat like 2010 - which is to say very different from anything we’ve ever seen until now. People who were right for 04 and 06 would not be right today.

Having said that, I don’t think Santorum is right for today either, but he is impressive in a number of ways.


72 posted on 11/19/2011 6:37:52 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: Saundra Duffy

I don’t need to take a quiz. I like Santorum a lot. I’ve always liked him. I know people are really ticked that he supported Specctor, but I think he’s a loyal republican. My guess is that George Bush asked him to support Spector to preserve some kind of coalition. Then Spector turned on Bush and sold out, after all.

So, how long can you hold a grudge for a political decision? Santorum is right for all the right reasons. He doesn’t waver on LIFE, even when it is his own child. To me, that is a lot more important than who you are backing in a Senatorial election.


73 posted on 11/19/2011 6:39:37 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: GloriaJane

Interesting your description of Santorum.

A couple of weeks ago when Herman Cain was asked by Jay Leno to describe his opponents in one word Cain said “tense” for Santorum. Then when prompted by Leno Mr. Cain used almost word for word your description!

Not a good election cycle for the Ricks.


74 posted on 11/19/2011 6:40:08 PM PST by not2worry
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To: Indy Pendance

After he endorsed Spectre over Toomey, most FReeper wrote him off.


75 posted on 11/19/2011 6:40:16 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Indy Pendance
Obama or Santorum, just saying?

I am SICK of everyone's pet candidate being presented as the only choice between that person and Obama. We have a large slate of candidates at this point. They all have strengths and weaknesses. I am pointing out the weaknesses of Santorum, in an age when we need someone not heavily steeped in the Beltway mindset. IMO Santorum is.

76 posted on 11/19/2011 6:41:28 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Paladin2

NWS?


77 posted on 11/19/2011 6:42:20 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: mnehring

I took it twice, one with genuine answers (Santorum was first with 94%, Obama last with 9%) and one with leftist answers (Obama was first with 93%, Santorum was tied for last with 0%).


78 posted on 11/19/2011 6:42:41 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Eagles6
Too bad so many here are swayed by the msm’s hatred of the man.

I'm not. I like Santorum...I just realize, with his campaign numbers lower than that of Jon Hunstsman's he has no chance.

79 posted on 11/19/2011 6:43:06 PM PST by South40 (NO RINOS IN 2012!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

>> Santorum is right for all the right reasons. He doesn’t waver on LIFE, even when it is his own child. To me, that is a lot more important than who you are backing in a Senatorial election. >>

I disagree. When choosing a neighbor, a preacher, a friend, a husband - yes. When choosing a President? I don’t think necessarily so.


80 posted on 11/19/2011 6:43:10 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: mnehring

so... no matter what answer.... you get Santorum??


81 posted on 11/19/2011 6:44:27 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Crichton
It’s laughable to dismiss Santorum and at the same time talk up one of the other candidates running. They all have serious shortcomings.

I agree.

82 posted on 11/19/2011 6:47:05 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: GeronL

Initially yes, as it seemed pretty much everyone else.

I am testing one more thing though, thinking it may not be ‘resetting’ all the answers I am going to try again clearing cache and all that, before I just left the window open, changed some answers, and recalculated.


83 posted on 11/19/2011 6:49:06 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Indy Pendance

He did a great job today on the Forum/debate. His personal story about his child was very moving. He seems like a nice guy. But I think he lacks the x factor and simply won’t be able to bring in the votes.

I see him as better than some and not as good as others.

I am already committed to the guy I want to see as our next president, Newt Gingrich.


84 posted on 11/19/2011 6:51:24 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/West 2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.”)
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To: dirtboy
He has spent so much time in Iowa he should move there.
That was his ploy from the beginning. If it doesn't work he is gone.

I don't care what anyone says, Iowa doesn't mean beans.
Remember Alan Keyes that won?

85 posted on 11/19/2011 6:52:11 PM PST by AGreatPer (Obama has NEVER given a speech where he did not lie!!!)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I’M not a Perry supporter.

I believe Rick Santorum should be looked at. This is not from the rabids. I’m a normal American mom.


86 posted on 11/19/2011 6:52:16 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Eagles6

National Weather Service.


87 posted on 11/19/2011 6:53:34 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Eagles6

Some kind of State, Penn/ private weather company bias.


88 posted on 11/19/2011 6:54:38 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: mkjessup
“Santorum lost any possibility of getting my support when he chose to back that RINO-turncoat Arlen Specter over a TRUE conservative, Pat Toomey”
Amen FRiend, Rick is a RINO, always has been, always will!
89 posted on 11/19/2011 6:55:30 PM PST by goodtomato (I'm really, really blessed! WWW.MIKEMcCALISTERFORSENATE.COM check him out!)
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To: dirtboy
Excellent reasons and truth FRiend. Well said!
90 posted on 11/19/2011 6:58:15 PM PST by goodtomato (I'm really, really blessed! WWW.MIKEMcCALISTERFORSENATE.COM check him out!)
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To: mkjessup
Santorum lost any possibility of getting my support when he chose to back that RINO-turncoat Arlen Specter over a TRUE conservative, Pat Toomey.

Spot on. And, he can't stop whining.

91 posted on 11/19/2011 6:58:33 PM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Eagles6
You are wrong. RS was groomed by the Hillman republicans. IOW RINO'S.

When he was ready he returned to PA and ran against democrat Doug Walgren. One of his main accusations against Walgren was that Walgren did not (mainly) live in PA. Santorum won. In his last race it was argued that Santorums children did not attend the PA schools he claimed they did and were in fact mostly in VA.

HE IS A BELTWAY REPUBLICAN! Also IIRC he works or worked for the Eckert Seamans law firm which may be Atty Jim Eckert. (I do not know positively but it crossed my mind) Eckert is well known to be the local atty who represnts anyone who is guilty.

If someone is caught red handed at a murder scene Eckert use to be the go to guy. He made the most absurd arguments!

If Santorum is connected with him in any way - and I'm not positive he is - RUN!

Even if he isn't he IS connected with the Hillman's and they are Rove type, beltway, country club republicans. Kiss McCains butt republican's. Vote for anything with a GOP stamp republicans.

I have been to the Hillman's home in Pittsburgh several times both when my parents were part of the GOP thing and by myself.

The place STINKS of RINO!

92 posted on 11/19/2011 7:00:11 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Indy Pendance

I don’t know, but looking at the “politifact” ratings that designated Obama, Clinton and Biden as being “Mostly true” and half true... I don’t put much weight into their quiz results. Also, I did not see where I disagreed fundamentally with candidates that they scored way low for my answers : /

Tatt


93 posted on 11/19/2011 7:00:22 PM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: GeronL
After he endorsed Spectre over Toomey, most FReeper wrote him off.

Which is absurd. He made a mistake and caved to White House pressure seven years ago. Every candidate in the race has screwed up, some of them spectacularly. Santorum probably has the least amount of baggage of them all.

94 posted on 11/19/2011 7:02:07 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: prisoner6
Excellent post!
95 posted on 11/19/2011 7:02:46 PM PST by goodtomato (I'm really, really blessed! WWW.MIKEMcCALISTERFORSENATE.COM check him out!)
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To: Paladin2
Wow I had forgotten about that one! Yes Santorum wanted to blow away one of the FEW things the feds do fairly well. Really NWS is a matter of national security. There are otehr private services of course but NWS does a pretty good job against them.

There are so many other federal agencies/programs (need I really list them) that deserve to go but he picked on that one.

96 posted on 11/19/2011 7:08:00 PM PST by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Paladin2

Ahh!


97 posted on 11/19/2011 7:10:18 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: Paladin2

Ahh!


98 posted on 11/19/2011 7:10:18 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: Mountain Mary

Clicking on ‘more info’ after each persons poll totals is an eye opener and more ‘telling’ of just how this poll was set up.

It’s ‘slanted’ just a ‘tad’..


99 posted on 11/19/2011 7:10:30 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Indy Pendance

I got 91% Santorum, both for actual candidates running AND for all politicians. Hmm.


100 posted on 11/19/2011 7:12:03 PM PST by NakedRampage (Puttin' the "stud" in Bible study)
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