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Panetta to Israel: Donít Touch Iran
FrontPage Magazine ^ | November 21, 2011 | P. David Hornik

Posted on 11/21/2011 5:12:23 AM PST by SJackson

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has given Israeli defense minister Ehud Barak a clear warning: don’t attack Iran. Panetta

pointed to a U.S. analysis that a strike on Iran would set back its nuclear program, which Iran says is only for peaceful purposes, by one or two years at most. It would also have implications for U.S. forces in the region.

He added that “thirdly, there are going to be economic consequences to that, that could impact not just on our economy but the world economy.”

What to do, then, if a military strike would be both pointless and harmful?

“The United States feels strongly,” Panetta says, “that the way to deal with [the problem] is to work with our allies, to work with the international community to develop the sanctions and the diplomatic efforts that would further isolate Iran.”

Barak, for his part, doesn’t seem reassured by that. He said it would “probably” take no more than “three-quarters” of a year before

no one can do anything practically about [Iran’s nukes] because the Iranians are gradually, deliberately entering into what I call a zone of immunity, by widening the redundancy of their plan, making it spread over many more sites with many more hidden elements.

Barak also warned that “a nuclear Iran would have deep repercussions for the Middle East, prompting countries like Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Egypt to ‘turn nuclear’ and starting a countdown to putting nuclear materials in the hands of terrorists.”

Another who’s not impressed by the Obama administration’s Iran policy, which Panetta’s words can be assumed to reflect, is Illinois Republican Senator Mark Kirk. As he told FoxNews: “They are not taking any real action against the Central Bank of Iran or other parts of the nuclear program…and then telling everyone else that they shouldn’t do anything either.”

Kirk, who is sponsoring legislation to sanction Iran’s Central Bank, says the administration is

afraid of any instability and oil markets, and therefore wants to take no decisive action. They’ll give some pretty good speeches against Iran, but they will not take decisive economic action. That may be because they don’t want disruption in Western economies, worried about prospects for the campaign.

Certainly there’s nothing in Panetta’s words to cast doubt on that analysis. His warning to Barak amounts to saying: the West is militarily helpless before a threat like Iran’s nuclear program; the tooth fairy will take care of it.

Particularly inane is the rationale that attacking Iran would only set it back one or two years, which amounts to a new military doctrine of never attacking an opponent if he has a chance to recover from it. As noted by Jim Lacey, professor of strategic studies at the Marine Corps War College:

The most commonly used excuse for non-action…is that an American military strike would only cause the Iranians to redouble their efforts. Really? In any case, is there some rule against our blowing up their “redoubled” program a year or two from now? Is there not a point where even the Iranians will tire of seeing hundred-billion-dollar investments repeatedly turned into rubbish?

But the real insult to one’s intelligence is Panetta’s assertion that “work[ing] with…the international community…to develop the sanctions and the diplomatic efforts” is the solution—as if that hadn’t already been tried ad nauseam, with the “results” being the November 8 IAEA report clarifying that Iran is fast approaching its nuclear goal.

Here even Kirk’s belief in sanctioning Iran’s Central Bank is overblown. True, the U.S. administration is now reportedly considering sanctions on Iran’s petrochemical industry while making no mention of its far more significant Central Bank. But even if the administration aimed for sanctions on that body, it’s hardly likely it could get its allies—let alone Russia and China—to cooperate, and certainly not within the timeframe clarified by Barak.

As Benjamin Weinthal notes: “When it comes to sanctioning Iran, Germany has long been the weakest link in the chain. Yet France, Italy and the United Kingdom also refuse to sanction Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps or its central bank.” That’s so even though “both entities are deeply immersed in Iran’s nuclear program and finance its terrorist proxies….”

But what to do when, “in 2010, as the US moved to tighten economic sanctions on Iran, European capitals merely paid lip service, while their bilateral trade with Iran flourished to over 25 billion Euros a year.” That’s a lot of Euros—especially for a continent on the brink of economic collapse.

Israeli hopes, then, that the latest IAEA report would prompt greater seriousness are already fading. The analogies with the 1930s are striking: the West’s ongoing pathological inability to cope with the danger; Jews as the immediate target, trying vainly to convince others that they’re but the canary in the coalmine. The difference, though, is that this time the Jews have a state and the ability to act.

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1 posted on 11/21/2011 5:12:24 AM PST by SJackson
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2 posted on 11/21/2011 5:13:19 AM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
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To: SJackson
....don't do it yet,Dumbo is not ready for the crisis, he needs you to wait till he has in place "emergency laws" that allow him to put off elections till he's satisfied that the constitution can go forward.
3 posted on 11/21/2011 5:16:36 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: SJackson
Panetta to Israel: Just Die Jews!!!
4 posted on 11/21/2011 5:19:26 AM PST by Happy Rain ( "Many of the most useful idiots of the Left are on the Right.")
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To: SJackson

This is so much B.S. it stinks, even over the internet.

“Panetta pointed to a U.S. analysis that a strike on Iran would set back its nuclear program, which Iran says is only for peaceful purposes, by one or two years at most.”

Hmmm, you mean that Iran would be able to replace all those thousands of centrifuges needed to purify the Uranium in two or three years? Right. What about setting up a breeder reactor; two or three years? Right.

It’s embarrassing to have my country be stating such bald-faced lies on the global stage.


5 posted on 11/21/2011 5:19:33 AM PST by Oceander (TINSTAAFL - Mother Nature Abhors a Free Lunch almost as much as She Abhors a Vacuum)
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To: SJackson

Israel to Panetta: go f@$k yourself


6 posted on 11/21/2011 5:21:50 AM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: Oceander

we’ve been hearing that Iran will have nukes within 2 years for the last 10....one morning soon we’ll wake up to a boom.


7 posted on 11/21/2011 5:23:32 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: SJackson
Obama is, either by his misguided world view or by actual planning, running interference for Iran and making sure they complete their nuclear weapons program.
8 posted on 11/21/2011 5:24:17 AM PST by Truth29
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To: muir_redwoods
Obama shaking in his boots thinking Oil goes to over 200 a Barrel.

He has 0 chance for reelection.

10 posted on 11/21/2011 5:24:44 AM PST by scooby321
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To: SJackson

pointed to a U.S. analysis that a strike on Iran would set back its nuclear program, which Iran says is only for peaceful purposes, by one or two years at most. It would also have implications for U.S. forces in the region.

He added that “thirdly, there are going to be economic consequences to that, that could impact not just on our economy but the world economy.” “

As opposed to doing nothing and setting it back by 0 years?

And to think the left likes to insinuate that Jews only care about money.


11 posted on 11/21/2011 5:25:39 AM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: SJackson

FULP ! Either let Israel get the job done or we should go in and do it ourselves !


12 posted on 11/21/2011 5:34:02 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: SJackson
...don’t attack Iran... It would also have implications for U.S. forces in the region.

Well effin' duh! However, not slowing or halting their program (until more stable leadership takes over?) has serious implications for US forces in the region too. As in, we have tens of thousands of personnel, military and civilian, deployed in the region that are already within Iran's missile envelope - within striking distance now. As soon as ah-I'm-a-nutjob over there has a nuclear weapon he's confident in, and has enough of them to matter, he will use them.

So, the political "leadership" in DC {snort} can either remove the threat (or let Israel do it), or they can neutralize it by pushing a defensive strategy. Push missile defense - particularly defense against shorter range, shorter time of flight stuff - into high gear. Then they're going to need defense against air delivered systems (ie. make sure we have enough F-35s and F-22s to defend our interests there), and then they're going to have to push (and deploy) technology to detect and defeat truck-borne bombs...

13 posted on 11/21/2011 5:35:00 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: SJackson

Working with allies and the International community to get sanctions has worked so well so far.

Panetta is dreaming if he thinks Iran is going to stop building a bomb. He really cannot be that stupid, can he?

We have been workind on sanctions for years and Iran has continued building their bomb.

Israel should tell Panetta to WTFU.

In the meantime our vacationing President is listening to country music tonight.


14 posted on 11/21/2011 5:37:16 AM PST by Venturer
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To: SJackson

Hey LEON!
You don’t KNOW “RISK”!!!

A nuclear Iran is a much higher risk than any of the economic or political risks associated with PREVENTING a nuclear Iran!

Since you and your boss are too cowardly to make tough decisions, you need to sit down and shut up, when it comes to advising those who’s existence lies in the balance.


15 posted on 11/21/2011 5:38:02 AM PST by G Larry (Catholic Conservative Supporting Israel!)
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To: SJackson

Leon Panetta is like a dull old drill bit. He is a tool but everyone knows he is dull and ineffective. He is merely the most recent of the failed attempts for the Obama administration to appear relevant


16 posted on 11/21/2011 5:38:47 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: SJackson

Israel, do what you must.


17 posted on 11/21/2011 5:40:53 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Obama’s policies don’t include protecting lives, either the lives of Israelis or those of our troops in the middle east. I wish one of the Repub contenders would bring this up in a debate. Either by desire or inaction Obama is helping Iran get nukes.


18 posted on 11/21/2011 5:41:26 AM PST by Yaelle (Still helping the Cain train wheels go round.)
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To: Truth29
Obama is, either by his misguided world view or by actual planning, running interference for Iran and making sure they complete their nuclear weapons program.

Oh there is no question it is part of a deliberate plan. 0 wants a nuclear Iran as a counter balance to the USA on the world stage.

19 posted on 11/21/2011 5:43:45 AM PST by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: SJackson

This might effect the ex first families trip to Mecca for the Haj in 2013!


20 posted on 11/21/2011 5:44:24 AM PST by BTCM (Death and destruction is the only treaty Muslims comprehend.)
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To: SJackson
“The United States feels strongly,” Panetta says, “that the way to deal with [the problem] is to work with our allies, to work with the international community to develop the sanctions and the diplomatic efforts

Translation: this regime's "allies" and "international community" include China, Venezuela, North Korea, the Muslim Brotherhood and Iran.

We have seen how economic isolationism has worked so well with Castro in Cuba.

21 posted on 11/21/2011 5:48:37 AM PST by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: Yaelle

Iran already has a nuke or several. They are blackmailing U.S. and trying to stall Israel. Why else would we not attack?


22 posted on 11/21/2011 5:50:05 AM PST by vortec94
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To: SJackson

So, we have forces in Iran ? Is that what Panetta is actually stating ?


23 posted on 11/21/2011 5:58:28 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: SJackson

I certainly hope that Israel told Panetta to piss up a rope.


24 posted on 11/21/2011 6:09:45 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Mittt Romney - he lacks the courage of his absence of convictions .)
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To: SJackson
The United States feels strongly,” Panetta says, “that the way to deal with [the problem] is to work with our allies, to work with the international community to develop the sanctions and the diplomatic efforts that would further isolate Iran.”

In other words, do nothing!

25 posted on 11/21/2011 6:16:46 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan

Obama’s doing all he can to assure Iran gets nuclear weapons and has plenty of muslim fanatic states to share them with.


26 posted on 11/21/2011 6:18:47 AM PST by bigdirty
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To: SJackson

(Captured) American spies beg to differ w/Leon.


27 posted on 11/21/2011 6:21:50 AM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: SJackson

Pathetic, er ah Mr. P appointed by Obama to head the CIA....


28 posted on 11/21/2011 6:33:58 AM PST by Jumper
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To: muir_redwoods

Panetta’s a Communist. Always has been. Part of the team that has infiltrated the highest branches of government in order to bring us down. Any questions?


29 posted on 11/21/2011 6:34:56 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: SJackson
Kirk, who is sponsoring legislation to sanction Iran’s Central Bank, says the administration is afraid of any instability and oil markets, and therefore wants to take no decisive action. They’ll give some pretty good speeches against Iran, but they will not take decisive economic action. That may be because they don’t want disruption in Western economies, worried about prospects for the campaign.

Since 1980, sanctions of one kind or another have been leveled against Iran... can anyone point to any kind of evidence these have affected Iran's behavior to any extent? The only application these knuckledraggers understand and respect is brute and overwhelming force.

That said... this "administration" can't be trusted to conduct any such operation to the required level to exact a desired result. The Israelis don't either, and at a point and time of Israel's choosing, it will act. The Israelis also likely believe Obama may act against them, so that would be part of the decision-making equation.

30 posted on 11/21/2011 6:41:24 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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To: SJackson

Hey pantyetta, do you really believe sanctions can work against a cult that uses no toilet paper, still supports honor killings, and heats with camel dung?
Why don’t you just STFU? JMHO of course.


31 posted on 11/21/2011 6:44:56 AM PST by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: onedoug
Israel, do what you must.

I agree with the rights of sovereign nations, but Israel had better be willing to face the repercussions from the US people. An attack on Iran could have serious consequences to American troops in the region and American citizens. Israel had better understand that before, rather than after. The politics mean nothing in this; it is the real economic impact to America, its debt, its citizens, and the very real threat to our troops in the region.

32 posted on 11/21/2011 6:45:26 AM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: SJackson
LLS to panetta... resign you fat bastard... YOU and your kenyan overlord got many of our agents killed... resign and do the honorable thing leon. I know... there is no honor amongst those without honor.

LLS

33 posted on 11/21/2011 6:49:23 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: onedoug

>>>Israel, do what you must.

Yup, and know we are with you. If there is any fighting going on, I am in Israels corner. Period.

No ROE, Just do it.


34 posted on 11/21/2011 6:50:10 AM PST by halfright ("Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading". --Thomas Je)
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To: SJackson

“The United States feels strongly,” Panetta says, “that the way to deal with [the problem] is to work with our allies, to work with the international community to develop the sanctions and the diplomatic efforts that would further isolate Iran.”

That worked well with North Korea too. Wait, NK went ahead and got Nuke weapons and no one did anything about it. Wait, this was during the Clinton Admin. when Panetta was there too! I guess he just wants to be consistent. So, rogue nations getting nuke weapons make the region safer. We might as well start selling them on ebay and arm everyone.


35 posted on 11/21/2011 7:16:11 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: SJackson

The United States under the Presidents’ “leadership” will allow Israel to be obliterated and will do NOTHING to either stop it or to retaliate.


36 posted on 11/21/2011 7:21:07 AM PST by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: SJackson

NY-29 got it right.....


37 posted on 11/21/2011 7:24:16 AM PST by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: SJackson
All this shows is that the Obama regime cares far more about getting reelected than showing leadership in a world gone mad.

This has been the MO of the democrats since Carter. Had Carter really attacked Iran for taking our Embassy and making the staff hostages, he may well have won the election against Reagan. I guess we should thank God he didn't.

Consider Clinton on the golf course refusing to take out Osama when he had the chance. The focus here was on his poll numbers, not doing the right thing.

So now the world is back to the tinderbox, once again with Iran, ready for a nuclear glow, but we'll do nothing to despoil the One’s poll numbers and economic non-policies.

Pathetic. An unbiased press would run with this story. Too bad we have none.

38 posted on 11/21/2011 7:30:20 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: SJackson
Don't touch Iran or else what?

Israel would "touch" Iran only if it were life or death.

39 posted on 11/21/2011 7:33:17 AM PST by Salman
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To: SJackson
I'm thinking the world will eventually recover from the economic impact of strike on Iran.

If Iran does in fact develop a nuclear weapon, they will hold the world hostage to their demands, very similar to N.Korea.

That's the better case scenario, worst case these pshycotic muzzies would use a device to wipe out Israel.

I put my money on the Israelis.

40 posted on 11/21/2011 7:38:41 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: apoliticalone

So what do you want to do? Wait? They´ve already told us they´re bringing their ships near the US. To me that means EMP attack once they´re ready. And Obummer even wants it. And what does he care about US troops in the region? Just what in hell should they do?


41 posted on 11/21/2011 7:41:17 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: muir_redwoods

+1


42 posted on 11/21/2011 7:43:27 AM PST by bksanders (Spewing Forth Vitriol at the Speed of Spit)
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To: apoliticalone

Israel doesn’t have to think about the repercussions to the U.S. They are not in the business of taking care of the U.S.’s business. Their job is taking care of their own business, regardless of the U.S. (Although I think I would prefer them taking care of our business, too, given our current regime...)


43 posted on 11/21/2011 7:54:55 AM PST by LaRueLaDue
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To: SJackson
ALMIGHTY GOD
TO
PANETTA & OTHUGA:

!DON'T TOUCH ISRAEL!

In the least
harmful way to the
least harmful degree!

Even your curse words
against Israel
shall bring a heavy penalty.

'Touch the apple of my eye,
and I will make of you
less than dung.

I will erase every evidence
of your existence from all the earth.'

Those who bless Israel will be blessed.
Those who curse Israel will be cursed.

GENESIS 12:3

New International Version (©1984)
I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."

New Living Translation (©2007)
I will bless those who bless you and curse those who treat you with contempt. All the families on earth will be blessed through you."

English Standard Version (©2001)
I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed."

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you, I will curse. Through you every family on earth will be blessed."

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And I will bless them that bless you, and curse him that curses you: and in you shall all families of the earth be blessed.

American King James Version
And I will bless them that bless you, and curse him that curses you: and in you shall all families of the earth be blessed.

American Standard Version
and I will bless them that bless thee, and him that curseth thee will I curse: and in thee shall all the families of the earth be blessed.

Bible in Basic English
To them who are good to you will I give blessing, and on him who does you wrong will I put my curse: and you will become a name of blessing to all the families of the earth.

Douay-Rheims Bible
I will bless them that bless thee, and curse them that curse thee, and IN THEE shall all the kindred of the earth be blessed:

Darby Bible Translation
And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee; and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

English Revised Version
and I will bless them that bless thee, and him that curseth thee will I curse: and in thee shall all the families of the earth be blessed.

Webster's Bible Translation
And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

World English Bible
I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you. All of the families of the earth will be blessed in you."

Young's Literal Translation
And I bless those blessing thee, and him who is disesteeming thee I curse, and blessed in thee have been all families of the ground.'

Genesis 12:3

The Message (MSG)



 2-3 I'll make you a great nation
      and bless you.
   I'll make you famous;
      you'll be a blessing.
   I'll bless those who bless you;
      those who curse you I'll curse.
   All the families of the Earth
      will be blessed through you."


44 posted on 11/21/2011 8:27:35 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: SJackson

These so-called “warnings” made for public consumption may or may not signify anything. The real communication does not take place in the newspapers or on the interwebs. Which is not to say that the policy is the correct one - it’s just to say that you should believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.


45 posted on 11/21/2011 8:31:25 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: SJackson
“The United States feels strongly,” Panetta says, “that the way to deal with [the problem] is to work with our allies, to work with the international community to develop the sanctions and the diplomatic efforts that would further isolate Iran.”

"Peace for our time", said the smiling Neville the Devil on September 30, 1938, where he proudly touted the Munich Agreement for Peace, which was signed by the ever trustworthy adolph amedenejan


46 posted on 11/21/2011 8:39:19 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: SJackson

I wonder why the Saudis have not started tightening their grip on our scrotum? If they were concerned wouldn’t they start to express their dismay by squeezing the price of oil because of the “uncertainty.”


47 posted on 11/21/2011 8:59:17 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: onedoug

I’m expressing an opinion of caution for Israel, not that anyone gives a damn what I think. Americans are more than fed up with these costly ME wars. We don’t even have the fiscal ability to wage war unless we tack on an economically harmful war surtax, which would have been the fiscally responsible and conservative thing to do 10 years ago, to keep the deficit under control.

What would a major bump in energy prices do to the world economy and food prices? Those who were around in the 70s like me, remember the gas shortages and the major bump in our gas prices and rampant inflation which according to historians were caused by the wars in the ME and a direct result of our arms involvement.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

If Israel loses USA public opinion it will have a huge negative long term impact. Some might think it isn’t possible. If Israel’s actions result in major damage to an already hurting economy or loss of our troops in that area all bets are off.

Israel needs to make its own decisions, but so will Americans. Most of us put our own families’ needs first not other countries.


48 posted on 11/21/2011 9:03:06 AM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: Quix

Amen and amen.


49 posted on 11/21/2011 9:09:53 AM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28, "...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: Quix

When the “authorities” (and I use that word judiciously) put the Bible on the Kindle they can then take literary license to make it say anything they wish. They have a global edit and global delete key. No need to even burn books. Your book data file is subject to modification and edit the first time your book reader establishes a session with their server via the internet.

The masses generally aren’t yet aware of the significance of replacing hard copy books, which provide society with an indelible permanent unchangeable history, to one where history can be changed at whim.


50 posted on 11/21/2011 9:12:03 AM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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