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Posted on 11/21/2011 7:47:23 AM PST by count-your-change
Acland quotes another cold fusion researcher at the E-Cat World page:
"In the last 8 weeks I have been astounded by a superior nanotechnology that will capture the imagination of even the greatest foes of LENR. I believe all of LENR is just a new and unanticipated form of nanomagnetism.
(Excerpt) Read more at ecatnews.net ...
Very cool. I don't want to pry but what do you do, teach, work at a LHC type place, nuclear research???
What do you think of the physics of the Ecat? Did Rossi really discover something new, something already known or a complete scam. I say it's a scam but I want it to be true. That is how I think he keeps it going, people wanting, against all odds, to believe that it works.
Very small magnetism!
I mean, come on, he-LLOOO-ooo.
Maybe the factories don't exist. Not in fifth floor apartment or a mail drop office certainly. If people are going to be hired to work in these factories I assume they'll have to look at what they're doing.
“You are obviously unfamiliar with IP or confidential process property or you would not bring it up.”
An unwarranted assumption.
Rossi isn't designing something proprietary to the customer. Anyone who purchases his device can tear it down and see exactly what is in it how it was constructed.
“His activity is not strange it is just in keeping with good IP practice, and to do otherwise he would certainly loose his proprietary and confidential IP status.”
Take a tour of a Coca Cola bottler and you still won't know the formula for the syrup.
If Rossi has no factories to tour the whole question is moot.
Maybe it will be used for Steam Bomb!
Just the CliffsNotes.
Why not? Reagan used a cold fusion scam to help bankrupt the USSR.
It’s like the gas tank on a big SUV, It’s not what you put in that counts, it’s what you get out.
The yeast has to rise first and that is an excellent point. The temperature can't rise to infinity and is seems it shouldn't take the nickel that long to get to the right temp. I thought Rossi's said something along the lines of that it takes a while for the LENR to get going.
Now Defkalion is saying they're going to announce something in 15 days?
Here's an interesting link:
Now, is the Hyperion their version of the Ecat or the device that converts what the Ecat puts out into electricity?? If you look at the circuit board in the little square container, it has silkscreen on the component side. If this thing was a prototype, I wouldn't expect them to have what looks like a production board.
Didn't Rossi and Defkalion have a falling out? I don't trust Rossi as far as I could throw him but it would suck to have Defkalion get all the attention and credit if this thing happens to work. I'd actually be PO'd on Rossi's behalf.
One other thing is, if you look at those pictures, they're all close up so you can't see how big the place is except for the top picture. They also label the pics as test lab, lab 1 and lab 2 and production so either they have a decent sized facility or they're pulling a fast one. Again though, like Rossi, they built something too. It sure would be nice to have this thing subjected to a rigorous test and settle once and for all whether this works or not. They've had more than one qualified person or company volunteer to test one. They only need to prove one works and since they're the size of a microwave, what's the big deal? Rossi could protect his secret by having his folks watching round the clock but he won't do it.
because it’s COLD fusion, they have defrost the reactor. In a pinch they can be put into the microwave for on 30% power for about 5 minutes.
I have no idea. But I can dream. I would love to see traditionally non-magnetic materials become magnetic. Imagine a tiny ceramic device at the bottom of a container, that converts heat into electricity. It could keep a beverage cool, while the energy is converted into stirring a drink. I've got lots of ideas.
In Rossis defense, Brian Ahern is the one who used the nano-magnetism term and it is a real term.Interestingly, Brian Ahern has made it very clear that he thinks Rossi is a fraud.
“If I had something that was generating more electricity than I put in, I would document it, and then invite the whole world to see.”
As a “PHYSICIST” I would think you would have paid more attention to what the claims have been. At no point did anyone involved say it put out any electricity at all. It puts out low level heat at this point which is not particularly useful in generating electricity.
From your link:
Rossi has been clever enough to change the trick on each successive demo. Using a secret customer is a great way to allow him to fulfill his promise to demo the 1 MW unit in October. He then evaded conducting the demo transparently by saying that the customer demanded the demo conditions. The customer signed off when Rossi gave him the wink and he shut things down without any measurements by anyone except the shill.
Occams Razor, on the other hand, says that 12 inconclusive demos in succession are not random. It is well planned and orchestrated. He has used the journalists like a team of puppets.
Isn't the Rossi fan club saying NASA is saying positive things about the Ecat?Yes, that's part of Kevmo's ostrich droppings. (If he can call us seagulls, I think we can call him an ostrich; you know, burying his head in the sand).
As far as I can tell, almost all of that junk was rumor and speculation from Sterling D. Allan, Rossi's partner. He's been spreading rumors about what companies/government organizations were the "secret customers". Even though Allan is working with Rossi, his rumors seem to be almost completely wrong. I don't know if that's because Allan is so gullible, or because he is intentionally misdirecting everyone; either theory seems reasonable to me.
Sterling Allen is the reason I posted the picture of Joe Isuzu.
Heat can be transformed to electricity very efficiently with a stirling engine.
Isn’t it a bit strange that Rossi doesn’t just generate electricity and sell it to the power grid?
Generating a small amount of heat would be an actual money machine.
To me, this is a telling sign of something fishy. Rossi is not following the path of least resistance to cash flow.
I didn't realize it was Ahern who wrote that. Isn't the Rossi fan club saying NASA is saying positive things about the Ecat?To be fair, Ahern's comments were not part of any information from NASA. It was his personal opinion on Rossi's demos.
However, that same page does show the NASA PowerPoint slide stating that Rossi has not sufficiently demonstrated that his E-Cat is producing energy beyond what could be done chemically (i.e. cheating).
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