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Dems to Obama: Yeah, You Should Probably Just Quit
Townhall.com ^ | November 21, 2011 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 11/21/2011 10:55:02 AM PST by Kaslin

At this point, President Obama has got to be sick of hearing about buyer's remorse from Democratic voters; and I'm sure Hillary Clinton is getting sick of hearing about why she should run against Obama in 2012, but the calls for Obama to step down and for Clinton to step up are only getting louder. Democratic pollsters Doug Schoen and Patrick Caddell have said Obama should step aside before, and they did it again over the weekend in the Wall Street Journal.

He should abandon his candidacy for re-election in favor of a clear alternative, one capable not only of saving the Democratic Party, but more important, of governing effectively and in a way that preserves the most important of the president's accomplishments. He should step aside for the one candidate who would become, by acclamation, the nominee of the Democratic Party: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Never before has there been such an obvious potential successor—one who has been a loyal and effective member of the president's administration, who has the stature to take on the office, and who is the only leader capable of uniting the country around a bipartisan economic and foreign policy.


Certainly, Mr. Obama could still win re-election in 2012. Even with his all-time low job approval ratings (and even worse ratings on handling the economy) the president could eke out a victory in November. But the kind of campaign required for the president's political survival would make it almost impossible for him to govern—not only during the campaign, but throughout a second term.

Put simply, it seems that the White House has concluded that if the president cannot run on his record, he will need to wage the most negative campaign in history to stand any chance. With his job approval ratings below 45% overall and below 40% on the economy, the president cannot affirmatively make the case that voters are better off now than they were four years ago. He—like everyone else—knows that they are worse off.

Even though Mrs. Clinton has expressed no interest in running, and we have no information to suggest that she is running any sort of stealth campaign, it is clear that she commands majority support throughout the country. A CNN/ORC poll released in late September had Mrs. Clinton's approval rating at an all-time high of 69%—even better than when she was the nation's first lady. Meanwhile, a Time Magazine poll shows that Mrs. Clinton is favored over former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney by 17 points (55%-38%), and Texas Gov. Rick Perry by 26 points (58%-32%).


But this is about more than electoral politics. Not only is Mrs. Clinton better positioned to win in 2012 than Mr. Obama, but she is better positioned to govern if she does. Given her strong public support, she has the ability to step above partisan politics, reach out to Republicans, change the dialogue, and break the gridlock in Washington.

So, say Clinton does decide to jump in the race, which is highly unlikely, ObamaCare is still off the table for debate if Romney gets the GOP nomination; remember HillaryCare anyone?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; bho2012; bhojobapproval; hillary; hillary2012; obamaoneterm; patcaddell; schoen
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He is to ignorant to listen
1 posted on 11/21/2011 10:55:04 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

No way in hell. He’s never had a better time and in his warped mind, there’s never been a better president.


2 posted on 11/21/2011 10:57:30 AM PST by albie
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To: Kaslin

I said it before and I’ll say it again.

Obama wants a deal, in exchange for quitting. Whether it be a cushy lifetime appointment someplace or millions of dollars or a guarentee that he won’t be prosecuted for high crimes or whatever.

He’s in the catbird seat and he knows it.


3 posted on 11/21/2011 10:58:05 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: Kaslin

I’m sure that Pat Caddell is pretty-much considered a “turncloak” by the Democrat-Media elites. He’s pretty much discounted. If others start making this point... that would be News.


4 posted on 11/21/2011 10:58:41 AM PST by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: Kaslin

better not sprea this around he just might listen to them. we want to run against Obama.


5 posted on 11/21/2011 10:59:21 AM PST by bilhosty (Don' t tax people tax newsprint)
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To: Kaslin

Too ignorant and too arrogant.


6 posted on 11/21/2011 10:59:45 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Kaslin
I've said it a dozen times...

Hillary is Obama's Veep for 2012.

I have no proof, however I suspect that it's been in the works for over a year.

Watch for Joe Biden to FAKE an illness, that would be my prediction (because the Dems are never honest about anything.)

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7 posted on 11/21/2011 11:00:40 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: albie

I think that senior Democrat leaders, including Bill Clinton, have already had a closed door meeting with Barry where they confronted him with reams of polling data and asked him to step aside.

It is obvious that he told them all to go pound salt.
He is just too arrogant to go voluntarily. They may try
and use something surrounding the Solyndra or Fast and Furious scandals to try and force his hand.


8 posted on 11/21/2011 11:06:33 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin
Sorry, but this article is wishful thinking

Why would Obama quit?

The Republican choices are terrible, the media will propagandize and cover up for him, he's never going to be held accountable in a court of law or impeachment proceedings for his crimes and/or bad policies

And the #1 reason he won't quit is the America voters who were stupid enough to elect him are more than stupid enough to re-elect him.

His approval ratings should be in the teens at best, he doesn't deserve to win more than 5 states, yet as of now he is still the favorite to win again. Americans are just idiots.

9 posted on 11/21/2011 11:06:58 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Kaslin

Liberals fail to understand that Barry isn’t the primary problem, its their (and his) ideology thats broken. Even if Barry (unlikely) steps aside the replacement is going to be as bad or worse.


10 posted on 11/21/2011 11:08:08 AM PST by 556x45
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To: Kaslin

Too egotistical. In his mind, it’s not about party or country - it’s about HIM.


11 posted on 11/21/2011 11:08:26 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Kaslin
He is to ignorant to listen.

No, he's not ignorant, it is ALL about him.

12 posted on 11/21/2011 11:10:42 AM PST by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: Kaslin; All

Has any first term president decided not to run the next term?


13 posted on 11/21/2011 11:11:01 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Seaplaner

Neil Kinnock disease?


14 posted on 11/21/2011 11:13:38 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: Kaslin
I got a "contact high" just reading this column. There's about as much chance of Mr. Obama voluntarily stepping down as there is Michelle being a Sports Illustrated swimsuit model. And who is crazy enough to believe that Hillary is the answer to all the troubles we're having? Is George McGovern unavailable? Let's just clone Henry Wallace!!
15 posted on 11/21/2011 11:13:51 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: Seaplaner

***Watch for Joe Biden to FAKE an illness***

We have been watching Joe Biden fake a full brain cavity for three years.....


16 posted on 11/21/2011 11:14:56 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Gingrich-Cain 2012)
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To: Seaplaner

I fear you may be right.

That would give us two Marxist-Socialist Alinsky students, one (maybe both) Menopausal to bring about the complete destruction of our country.

Just imagine how proud we could be to have these folks running (ruining) America!

The Zero
The Sinkmeister
Hitlary &
Chewbacka’s twin sister.

PRAY FOR AMERICA....HARD!!


17 posted on 11/21/2011 11:15:47 AM PST by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: Kaslin

Pray for the president’s life when the hard left starts rumbling that Obama has “Betrayed the revolution”.....

Another Glenn Beck prophecey to be proven true, and Glenn Beck ain;t no prophet, he just listens to the crazy people in their own words and takes them at face value.


18 posted on 11/21/2011 11:22:37 AM PST by GraceG
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To: qam1

Agreed, this article is wishful thinking.

Plus the communist will have a billion dollars collected from unions, trial lawyers, hollywood/entertainment filth, and certain elements of wall street that he can use to crush any opponent in a scorched earth campaign next year. At this point I am saying a 60-65% chance he wins* re-election.

* steals


19 posted on 11/21/2011 11:23:47 AM PST by crusader71
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To: Kaslin

Narcissist that he is, he is also an islamist on jihad. How often do they quit?


20 posted on 11/21/2011 11:26:53 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: Seaplaner
Hillary is Obama's Veep for 2012.

Not a chance. Hillary would not accept the veep spot.

21 posted on 11/21/2011 11:27:44 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: Kaslin

Folks should be aware that Doug Schoen is one of the principles in what is called “Americans Elect,” a phony Democrat astro-turf attempt to peel off votes from whomever the Republicans nominate.

The effort is almost certainly being funded by George Soros.


22 posted on 11/21/2011 11:28:00 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Nutritionally, you are what you eat. Politically, you are what you endorse.)
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To: Kaslin

“who is the only leader capable of uniting the country around a bipartisan economic and foreign policy.”

Damn. I HATE it when my head explodes. Gotta clean up now...


23 posted on 11/21/2011 11:32:04 AM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: EternalVigilance

Anyone think the Mediacrats would ask Hillary which department heads would she get rid of?


24 posted on 11/21/2011 11:32:54 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: thackney
James K. Polk, 11th President of the United States, did not return for a second term, stating that he was heartily rejoiced when his term ended. According to this
25 posted on 11/21/2011 11:37:22 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: thackney

Yes.


26 posted on 11/21/2011 11:37:30 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: EternalVigilance

Anyone think the Mediacrats would ask Hillary which department heads would she get rid of?


27 posted on 11/21/2011 11:37:34 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: 6ppc
Not a chance. Hillary would not accept the veep spot.

Unless she thought that barry might be involved in an unfortunate tragic "accident" soon after the election.
28 posted on 11/21/2011 11:54:48 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: Kaslin

Iron a pantsuit Hillary, you’re up.


29 posted on 11/21/2011 11:55:57 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Kaslin

Of course, Polk had promised to serve only one term—it’s how he got the Dem presidential nomination in the first place (the Dems were divided into two factions, neither one of which could get the 2/3 of the vote or whatever it was to nominate someone, and both factions agreed that it was better to nominate a compromise candidate that would allow them to gight it out again in four years).

And Polk also died shortly afterwards, so he wouldn’t have lived out a second term anyhow.

There have been other one-termers by choice (Pierce, Buchanan and Hayes); I’m not including those who also served part of another president’s term, such as TR and Coolidge), but Polk is the only one who would be considered a great president. If Obama doesn’t run again, it would be more of a Buchanan thing.


30 posted on 11/21/2011 11:56:21 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Seaplaner
I've said it a dozen times... Hillary is Obama's Veep for 2012.

And Palin is Cain's Veep.

That's why she didn't run for president. It was decided this would be a better way to go against Obama/Hitlery - head to head.

Of course, the real irony is that the Rat ticket was supposed to be Hillary/Obama in 2008, and now it's going to be reversed for 2012.

Whatever. They'll still lose. The communist totalitarian machine is going down.

31 posted on 11/21/2011 11:56:30 AM PST by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: Kaslin

He could quit today and make a lot of people very happy.


32 posted on 11/21/2011 12:08:06 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: Kaslin
Polk was in such poor health at the end of his presidency that he died a few months later.

But Rutherford B. Hayes looks like he fits the description of choosing not to continue. It was a campaign pledge of his to only serve one term.

33 posted on 11/21/2011 12:15:01 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Tallguy; All
I’m sure that Pat Caddell is pretty-much considered a “turncloak” by the Democrat-Media elites. He’s pretty much discounted. If others start making this point... that would be News.

My guess is Pat is still a sounding board for the ( yes it is an oxymoron) common sense Dems, and he is relaying to the world what he hears and that is what is scary to the campaign staffs at various levels, but the DNC? They are deaf to what he says at their own peril.

Love to see his use an old phrase "Rolodex", I love to know who is calling him and venting their spleens.....

34 posted on 11/21/2011 12:21:34 PM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Jonty30

He will never be prosecuted for anything, ever. Ex-presidents get full salary and Secret Service protection, for life. Ex-president is just about as good a gig as there ever was. In a lotta countries, the ex-president has to worry about a firing squad, not in the USA. Thank goodness.


35 posted on 11/21/2011 12:23:36 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Polk had no choice. He was in such poor health at the end he died a few months after leaving office.

Pierce ran for re-election but was defeated in his primary.

Buchanan didn't appear to have a chance as the democratic party was splitting up 1860. He may have chosen not to run but the party was so splintered by the time his admin ended the following democratic convention resulted in a split in the group forming two separate conventions.

Hayes appear to actually have chosen by his own will not to run when he was in health and standing to have done so again.

36 posted on 11/21/2011 12:30:51 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Ex-presidents get full salary and Secret Service protection, for life.

- - - - -

Not any more:

Under the Former Presidents Act, each former president is paid a lifetime, taxable pension that is equal to the annual rate of basic pay for the head of an executive federal department — $199,700 in 2011 — the same annual salary paid to secretaries of the Cabinet agencies.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/a/presidentialpay.htm

In 1997, Congress enacted legislation (Public Law 103-329) that limits Secret Service protection for former presidents to 10 years after leaving office. Under this new law, individuals who are in office before January 1, 1997, will continue to receive Secret Service protection for their lifetime. Individuals elected to office after that time will receive protection for 10 years after leaving office. Therefore, President Clinton will be the last president to receive lifetime protection.

http://www.secretservice.gov/faq.shtml#faq9


37 posted on 11/21/2011 12:35:51 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
Has any first term president decided not to run the next term?

Truman and Johnson.

38 posted on 11/21/2011 12:59:11 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (Moose Alert!!!! Get some sleeves!)
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To: Focault's Pendulum
In 1951, the U.S. ratified the 22nd Amendment, making a president ineligible to be elected for a third time, or to be elected for a second time after having served more than two years of a previous president's term. Truman had a grandfather clause since he was president when this was passed, but I don't see how he had a real choice when the nation had decided they didn't want to see another president staying in that long.

Johnson run in the following terms presidential primary but withdrew after he was losing badly, following the New Hampshire primary.

39 posted on 11/21/2011 1:11:04 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

You’re right, Pierce sought reelection, but lost in the Dem convention.

But Polk chose to keep his word and not seek reelection even before he became seriously ill.


40 posted on 11/21/2011 1:11:50 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Kaslin

What does Huma think about the idea?


41 posted on 11/21/2011 1:17:16 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Kaslin

Obama will win in 2012:

Hardcore 40% + brilliant intellectual independents+
hardcore liberals=Obama in 2012, 55 to 45%.

IMHO


42 posted on 11/21/2011 1:26:13 PM PST by ripley
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To: Kaslin

The piece omits one small fact. There is no one willing to sacrifice them selves and run. There is no democrat who can win and if they did win prevail against the nations Rat wrought problems.

Hillary, the Hillary who has lost the botox and gained the ass tire goo, looks harried to the point of exhaustion. Only bill Clinton can save the day. His goal is to be reelected and then promptly die of heart failure. His legacy will be saved by dying in office


43 posted on 11/21/2011 1:29:56 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Kaslin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvawHUvpvWc

Sing along :

How’s that hope and change working out for you? | Did it give you all that you want it to? | Did it lead you into the promised land? | Next time you step inside of the voting booth | Maybe you will think of the honest truth | Instead of raising a foolish man


44 posted on 11/21/2011 1:51:30 PM PST by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: qam1

Americans may be idiots: they repeatedly nominate and elect bad people. They are looking for a federal program to be created to benefit themselves specifically, and it never happens.


45 posted on 11/21/2011 2:03:57 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Kaslin

The problem is that Hillary Clinton is every bit the far left ideologue that Obama is. She would be just as bad, perhaps worse, than Obama in that the Clintons are notorious prevaricators who can make it look like they care about the USA. Hillary Clinton with a democrat Congress would be the end of America as we knew her. There isn’t a lick of difference between Obama and Clinton.


46 posted on 11/21/2011 3:00:45 PM PST by astounded (Barack Obama is a clear and present danger to the USA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I got a "contact high" just reading this column. There's about as much chance of Mr. Obama voluntarily stepping down as there is Michelle being a Sports Illustrated swimsuit model.

Obama with senior poll advisers deciding (coin toss) ....

Heads...run with Biden

Tails ....run with Hillary as VP

Adviser (to self)...."and your re-election odds are about the same as the coin landing on its edge"

47 posted on 11/21/2011 7:07:51 PM PST by spokeshave (Cain....100% American, 100% Black and 100% for the Constitution...999 an added benefit.)
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To: Kaslin

He’ll quit rather than be defeated. Wants to spend more time with the family.


48 posted on 11/21/2011 7:10:21 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: ripley

You could be right, the 14 million unemployed is not enough to turn this election. The critical mass of gummint workers and idiots with jobs in private economy will do it..


49 posted on 11/21/2011 7:12:57 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Focault's Pendulum
Truman and Johnson.

Truman took office in April 1945, just months after FDR's last inauguration, and did run and win in 1948, serving seven years.

Johnson served out JFK's first term and then ran in 1964 defeating Goldwater. He dropped out in 1968 after being seriously challenged in New Hampshire and another primary.

50 posted on 11/22/2011 2:30:42 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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