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Super Committee Fails to Reach Deficit Agreement
National Journal ^ | 11/21/11 | Billy House

Posted on 11/21/2011 2:12:14 PM PST by illiac

The bipartisan congressional committee tasked with finding at least $1.2 trillion in deficit reduction announced on Monday it cannot reach agreement by the Wednesday deadline, a stark if not unexpected admission that its efforts have ended in failure.

"After months of hard work and intense deliberations, we have come to the conclusion today that it will not be possible to make any bipartisan agreement available to the public before the committee’s deadline," the co-chairs, Rep. Jeb Hensarling, R-Texas, and Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., said.

The declaration came late Monday afternoon in a written statement from the 12-member Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction despite last-second discussions in closed-door meetings.

The committee, in the end, could not resolve that Republicans would not go as far as Democrats wanted on allowing more revenue raisers, and Democrats did not want to move on entitlement reforms. Intense messaging by both political parties on which was more to blame is surely to spill out for days, if not months.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: budget; bydesign; idiots; supercommittee
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1 posted on 11/21/2011 2:12:17 PM PST by illiac
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2 posted on 11/21/2011 2:14:35 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: illiac

It will be the Republicans fault, of course. lol.

The Democrats didn’t want a deal.


3 posted on 11/21/2011 2:14:51 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: illiac

Get rid of all of the clowns and start over.


4 posted on 11/21/2011 2:15:12 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (The patient is too far gone to save.)
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To: illiac

The real question is whether we get down-graded again.


5 posted on 11/21/2011 2:16:23 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: illiac
After months of hard work and intense deliberations

Take note of the greatest crock of sh!t to be quoted today!

6 posted on 11/21/2011 2:17:55 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Drill Thrawl

keep the good ones we just sent up there that are being told to sit in the back and shut up. Dump the ones that go along with these idiotic ideas. The supercommittee was a massive Boehnner fail.


7 posted on 11/21/2011 2:18:29 PM PST by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: illiac

They were never meant to reach a deal. This was to be used to point fingers at the Repubs.


8 posted on 11/21/2011 2:19:49 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: illiac
Bend over, here it comes again!

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9 posted on 11/21/2011 2:20:23 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: illiac

Did anyone notice they said “release to the public”?

I’m thinking they will do some 11th hour deal that screws us all.

The GOP in Washington needs to learn to play hardball.


10 posted on 11/21/2011 2:21:08 PM PST by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: illiac

Good! I sure didn’t want any deal.


11 posted on 11/21/2011 2:23:13 PM PST by free me (heartless)
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To: driftdiver
The real question is whether we get down-graded again.

The REAL question is if they will laugh and chuckle when they downgrade us.

12 posted on 11/21/2011 2:23:29 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: illiac

Are we talking about not reaching a deal that even if they came up with one the budget still grows. Even if we are left with nothing but the mandatory cuts, the budget still grows. What a crock of crap this whole exercise in futility has been.


13 posted on 11/21/2011 2:25:57 PM PST by animal172 (All aboard the Cain Train.)
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To: illiac

A blind squirrel could have seen this coming


14 posted on 11/21/2011 2:25:58 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: illiac
Predicted by Newt Gingrich in the August debate:

"I think this super committee is about as dumb an idea as Washington has come up with in my lifetime," Gingrich said. "I used to run the House of Representatives. I have some general notion of these things. The idea that 523 senators and congressmen are going to sit around for four months while 12 brilliant people, mostly picked for political reasons, are going to sit in some room and brilliantly come up with a trillion dollars, or force us to choose between gutting our military and accepting a tax increase, is irrational.

"They're going to walk in just before Thanksgiving and say, 'All right, we can shoot you in the head or cut off your right leg, which do you prefer?'" he added. "What they ought to do is scrap the committee right now, recognize it's a dumb idea, go back to regular legislative business, assign every subcommittee the task of finding savings. Do it out in the open through regular legislative order and get rid of this secret phony business."


15 posted on 11/21/2011 2:26:11 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Exactly. It was also meant to give Congress a break because they did nothing while the committee was meeting.


16 posted on 11/21/2011 2:28:10 PM PST by RC2
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To: illiac

Let the across the board cuts begin.


17 posted on 11/21/2011 2:30:44 PM PST by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: illiac

Ray Charles could have seen this one coming.

We are going to need OCH very soon—Occupy Capitol Hill.


18 posted on 11/21/2011 2:32:19 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: Drill Thrawl

How do you take and equal number of morons and expect them to come up with a solution that will benefit all the American people? It is really time to clean house and get rid of them all.


19 posted on 11/21/2011 2:32:44 PM PST by kempster
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To: illiac

Oblame to have a news conference or statement at 5:45 on the Super Committee Failure. He will blame it all on the Republicans and especially those extreme Tea Party members. We all know the what he will say. So now that the planed outcome has come about - the sheep are to get behind Oblame?

This is going to be sickening!


20 posted on 11/21/2011 2:32:56 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: eddie willers

Gingrich is a poor prophet if he thinks the Congress is able to making “savings” through the regular approach. It can not and will not. The best of all possible alternatives now for conservatives (at least if they truly want cuts) to pull the triggers and let sequestration take place. I know that there are some here who view the Pentagon as a sacred cows....but they need to realize that we’re broke and that there CAN NOT be any sacred cows on the spending side.


21 posted on 11/21/2011 2:33:11 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: Red_Devil 232

Let him blame who wants. Our response should be to call his bluff and demand sequestration.


22 posted on 11/21/2011 2:33:57 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: illiac

With Patty Murray on Commiemitee You expected What?

Patty gives a box of rocks a good name. Is her district near some toxic dump or somethin’? Constituents there must be suffering of exposure to it.


23 posted on 11/21/2011 2:34:08 PM PST by trotskylvalia (where nose meets the grindstone)
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To: ex-snook
Let the across the board cuts begin.

YES! No sacred cows.

24 posted on 11/21/2011 2:35:44 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: illiac

It was a joke from the gitgo.


25 posted on 11/21/2011 2:44:14 PM PST by mulligan
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To: illiac

Real problem is the democrat senate and president.

An election is needed.


26 posted on 11/21/2011 2:44:19 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Captain Kirk

I’m not paying close attention, but if automatic cuts happen automatically, how can we be against all that?

Sounds great.


27 posted on 11/21/2011 2:45:42 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: Captain Kirk

Defense is not a sacred cow to Republicans. It’s men and women who fight and die for us. It’s the families of those men and women who sacrifice more than people know to support their troops. It’s disabled vets. It’s PEOPLE. You know that’s what they will cut first if they cut “defense”. More down sizing and more of our troops on extended tours of duty while their families hold it together back home. Makes me sick when people view defense without considering the brave men and women who will be affected by the Democrats wet dream of gutting our military.


28 posted on 11/21/2011 2:46:06 PM PST by Cherokee Conservative (If a tree falls over in the woods, and then snaps back upright as a joke, do the squirrels laugh?)
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To: illiac

The ‘super commeittee’ needed to be selected like a jury is selected: each side gets to de-select (kick-off) the those on the other side.


29 posted on 11/21/2011 2:47:40 PM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: GatorGirl
Did anyone notice they said “release to the public”?

I’m thinking they will do some 11th hour deal that screws us all.

I noticed that also, and think you are right...

30 posted on 11/21/2011 2:49:09 PM PST by !1776!
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To: illiac

The Rats will gut the DOD making the country less safe and the Repubs will be slammed for killing off granny, if they insist on the entitlement program cuts. The country is doomed. The majority has decided that it can vote itself largess from the public trust what a treasonous bunch of hypocrits the libs are, they would allow the country to default for their own political gain.


31 posted on 11/21/2011 2:49:32 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (Democrat socialist engineering of America is treason.)
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To: GeronL

correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t there some kind of tax credit that will expire if these clowns don’t reach an agreement???? that is an automatic tax increase, which is what the dems wanted all along... and the pubs will get blamed for increasing taxes...sound familiar??? solution is extreme, but doable... if your congresscritter was not serving their first term in 2010, FIRE THEM.... they are socialists... don’t waste your breath trying to tell me different.. Fire Them.. Fire Then All... the short, the tall the big and the small.. FIRE THEM ALL... that is the only way change will occur


32 posted on 11/21/2011 2:53:31 PM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: illiac

The whole thing was a show. Rush talked about how there are no cuts. It was only a decrease in the percentage of spending increase. These guys have no ethics.


33 posted on 11/21/2011 2:53:55 PM PST by opentalk
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To: Cherokee Conservative

You sound like the people who want to cut school budgets by knocking off the band and sports programs because they think that will change the public’s mind about eliminating a bunch of supervisors. The Defense Budget could start with bringing home all the troops in Germany, Korea and Japan to defend against Russia without harming the troops one bit. There is fat everywhere in Washington.


34 posted on 11/21/2011 2:55:29 PM PST by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: EGPWS

Obama blaming pubs and whining like a little bitch on tv right now. Making threats and just all around blowing a lot of hot hair and telling lots of lies.


35 posted on 11/21/2011 2:56:27 PM PST by eak3
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Obama blaming pubs and whining like a little bitch on tv right now.

Worst leader EVER!

He is doing everything he can in speak to split the country apart.

We can not survive another 4 years of this FAKE!

36 posted on 11/21/2011 3:00:45 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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I am not sure about the tax credit.

I am sure that the GOP should have known, if they didn’t, what was going to happen. They gave the Democrats what they wanted in raising the debt ceiling, notice that isn’t being mentioned in the news reports about this.


37 posted on 11/21/2011 3:01:37 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: illiac

Glad I’m not invested on the market.

Tomorrow ain’t gonna be pretty.


38 posted on 11/21/2011 3:09:26 PM PST by DetroitRight
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To: illiac

Bohner is shocked!


39 posted on 11/21/2011 3:11:25 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: GeronL
This is a total victory for the Democrats. They got the debt ceiling increased by $2.5 trillion to cover a 16-month period. And now after having raised discretionary spending by 40% over the last three years, they only face a cut of $50 billion. In return, they get $50 billion in defense cuts - something they have always wanted, but never could get Republican cover for it. Now they have that cover. And on top of that, the infamous 'Bush Tax Cuts' will automatically expire.

Review:
Democrats get to keep the huge spending increases implemented in 2009 for the duration of Obama's term.
Deficit spending will remain at $1.8 trillion for the next 12 months.
Bush tax cuts get repealed.
Defense spending gets cut.
Republicans get the blame.

Once again, John Galt's axiom is proven true. In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit.

40 posted on 11/21/2011 3:11:57 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: ex-snook

True we need across the board CUTS (actual reductions) in spending.


41 posted on 11/21/2011 3:12:44 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: illiac

No caption necessary.

42 posted on 11/21/2011 3:13:05 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: DetroitRight
Market already anticipated this-it will go up.
43 posted on 11/21/2011 3:13:39 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Maybe. maybe not.


44 posted on 11/21/2011 3:16:23 PM PST by DetroitRight
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To: eddie willers; All

“They’re going to walk in just before Thanksgiving and say, ‘All right, we can shoot you in the head or cut off your right leg, which do you prefer?’” he added. “What they ought to do is scrap the committee right now, recognize it’s a dumb idea, go back to regular legislative business, assign every subcommittee the task of finding savings. Do it out in the open through regular legislative order and get rid of this secret phony business.”

Amen to what Newt said. I cannot believe the GOP members of congress was foolish enough to agree to the “poison pill” arrangement of this “super committee.” The Dems never intended to act in good faith. Failure was pre-ordained. They wanted DoD to be destroyed. Now they have the means to acceive it.


45 posted on 11/21/2011 3:16:30 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Maybe. maybe not.


46 posted on 11/21/2011 3:16:30 PM PST by DetroitRight
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To: DetroitRight

ooops! Dupe post. Sorry. :(


47 posted on 11/21/2011 3:17:12 PM PST by DetroitRight
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To: Sola Veritas
The Dems never intended to act in good faith.

Exactly. I can't imagine why anybody on the GOP side thought for one minute that this was done for anything but show.

48 posted on 11/21/2011 3:18:45 PM PST by livius
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To: ex-snook

Oh really. So, when someone’s husband gets his leg blown off and has to be flown to Germany for life saving surgery, there won’t be a surgeon there. And, all fresh troops will have to be deployed from the states to the war???? That’s smart. Sounds like you don’t know a thing about defense.


49 posted on 11/21/2011 3:24:37 PM PST by Cherokee Conservative (If a tree falls over in the woods, and then snaps back upright as a joke, do the squirrels laugh?)
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To: trotskylvalia

Speaking of the dumbest senator, take a look at the drudgereport.com huge picture....she looks as dumb as she is....


50 posted on 11/21/2011 3:56:44 PM PST by cfrels
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