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The 'Dump Obama' movement has begun; Guess who'd replace him?
IBD Editorials ^ | November 21, 2011 | Andrew Malcom Political News & Commentary

Posted on 11/21/2011 3:46:56 PM PST by Kaslin

Faced with peanut-sized Jimmy Carter poll numbers, disturbing big-donor reluctance, unacceptable unemployment and depressing economic forecasts, President Obama heads back on the road tomorrow to do what he always does when in trouble:

Call again for someone to do something about new jobs.

He's just back from eight days in Hawaii and Australia and Bali.

Now, he's off to palm-tree-free New Hampshire, where as expected Republicans have been plotting for months to oust him next Nov. 6.

Recent polls have Obama's disapproval around 50% and his approval 6-10 points lower, worse for his handling of the economy. That's the reverse of what it should be now for a good reelection shot. Nearly three-quarters of Americans feel the country is on the wrong track under his leadership.

But who thought the real emerging danger for the incumbent Democrat would be friendly fire from within his own party?

This morning's Wall Street Journal carries an overtly ominous op-ed for the president. It's by two Democrat heavyweight pollsters, Douglas Schoen and Patrick Caddell. Their first paragraph says it all:

(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...


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1 posted on 11/21/2011 3:46:57 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The Beast. The Beast. The Beast is back!!!


2 posted on 11/21/2011 3:48:33 PM PST by RetiredArmy (The End of Days draws near. In this time, you should be drawing closer to the Lord Jesus Christ.)
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To: Kaslin

H3ll? As in mad as.....


3 posted on 11/21/2011 3:48:56 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Kaslin

Run that ole bag/hag. She isn’t going to energize anyone except Bill.


4 posted on 11/21/2011 3:49:13 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: Kaslin
"...who thought the real emerging danger for the incumbent Democrat would be friendly fire from within his own party?"

I did.

I said two years ago, that this would probably happen. It didn't take any sort of brilliant insight on my part to see this coming, either. It was entirely predictable.

I'll bet most conservatives have long thought the same thing.

5 posted on 11/21/2011 3:50:52 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Kaslin

Even Democrats are bailing on him.


6 posted on 11/21/2011 3:51:00 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: arrogantsob
She isn’t going to energize anyone except Bill.

Now, we know that isn't even true. Monica?

7 posted on 11/21/2011 3:51:37 PM PST by FightforFreedomCA (we're stumbling towards Romney....)
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To: Kaslin

Dasvidaniya MF


8 posted on 11/21/2011 3:53:14 PM PST by RobertoinAL
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To: Kaslin

The turkey he pardoned doesn’t even trust him. The turkeys on the super committee feel like old used turkeys, used for a cheap photo opportunity.


9 posted on 11/21/2011 3:53:30 PM PST by FreedBird
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To: Kaslin

Hillary is just as much a leftist as Obama.


10 posted on 11/21/2011 3:54:23 PM PST by Signalman
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To: arrogantsob

What a waste and backward direction this country took in 2008. The Democrat party has been a scourge on this country for the past 50 years - ... Johnson, Carter, Clinton (the ‘non-majority’ President), and Obama.


11 posted on 11/21/2011 3:54:26 PM PST by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: Kaslin
Guess who'd replace him?

The Commodities Scam Queen?

ML/NJ

12 posted on 11/21/2011 3:55:03 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Windflier

Yup.


13 posted on 11/21/2011 3:55:43 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Kaslin

Here’s my hope (longshot). She knows she wouldn’t win the general, but she could still win a place in history by being the first woman at the top of a major party ticket, AND she’d get some measure of payback. It’s a lot of hassle to settle a score, but she might be capable of it.

Meanwhile, black voters stay home in the big cities, and pubbies get a big Senate majority!


14 posted on 11/21/2011 3:56:48 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Mo Udall of 2012.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Stone cold commie, as a matter of fact.


15 posted on 11/21/2011 3:58:17 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Kaslin

She has a lot more baggage than obama who has had his past scrubbed.


16 posted on 11/21/2011 3:58:37 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Kaslin

Two months ago people were saying it was getting to be too late for Palin to get into the race. Why is there still time for Hillary to get in (other than she’s running against Obama?) Can she even get on the primary ballots in the early states?


17 posted on 11/21/2011 3:58:41 PM PST by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: Signalman
Hillary is just as much a leftist as Obama.

Probably true, although she hides it better. I'll say one thing for Hillary, at least she's a real American and constitutionally eligible for the job (not that I want her to have it, mind you).

18 posted on 11/21/2011 3:58:47 PM PST by Marathoner ("Government is not reason. Government is not eloquence. It is force." George Washington)
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To: Kaslin
Obama insults America
19 posted on 11/21/2011 3:59:25 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (For years the Left protested "the occupation of Iraq"- now they want to "Occupy" all across the US)
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To: Kaslin

President Thunderthighs.


20 posted on 11/21/2011 4:01:19 PM PST by clintonh8r (Living well is no longer the best revenge. Revenge is now the best revenge.)
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To: Kaslin

Obama is far to conceited to step down. As the article says, he can’t run on his record, he has no new ideas, so he all he has is to go negative from the beginning.


21 posted on 11/21/2011 4:04:18 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Kaslin

The problem with Hillary is Hillary! She may have decent popularity numbers now, but what has she done as Secretary of State? Nada! In addition people seem to like her as long as they can’t see or hear her. As soon as she opens her fat mouth everyone gets turned off. I recall a Freeper saying that she reminds every man of his first wife - even if he’s never been married before.


22 posted on 11/21/2011 4:04:59 PM PST by rex regnum insanit (falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus)
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To: Kaslin
Kas, I'm surprised so many people are missing the import of what Caddell and Schoen said. It's not just that Obama should pull an LBJ and step aside, but that he should step aside in favor of Hillary by openly endorsing her. This avoids the bruising primary battles that could bring in Howard Dean, Jerry Brown or some other ambitious Democrat waiting to make his move in the resulting political chaos. It unites the party around the new nominee well ahead of the convention.

Power, like nature, abhors a vacuum, and this would avoid the kind of power vacuum that splinters parties. It would also ensure that blacks would work for Hillary, thanks to Obama's blessing in advance.

23 posted on 11/21/2011 4:05:46 PM PST by Publius
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To: Kaslin
President Threat Map
24 posted on 11/21/2011 4:06:11 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (For years the Left protested "the occupation of Iraq"- now they want to "Occupy" all across the US)
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To: FightforFreedomCA

Once he is back in the White House the Monicas will come acalling.


25 posted on 11/21/2011 4:07:29 PM PST by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: Kaslin
The DNC is a proven criminal organization. Witness the Obamascams. He really is a sorry criminal indeed. No doubt their next front man will be more ruthless on taxpayers, extracting revenue against value. Not just income and capital gains.

It's all about payback. The redistribution of wealth to “their” people. A more sophisticated method of reparations. Wealth has not the votes to stop this thievery nor much remaining time to avoid it. The erosion of capital is claiming one family after another into government dependency or welfare. They must vote for their masters.

It is old, we are tired and doomed by it as all DNC pretense Is gone.

26 posted on 11/21/2011 4:11:00 PM PST by Broker (Beware of Community Organizer in Chief!)
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To: Signalman
Hillary and Suha Arafat

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27 posted on 11/21/2011 4:14:31 PM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Publius
It's not just that Obama should pull an LBJ and step aside, but that he should step aside in favor of Hillary by openly endorsing her.

It's not going to happen. No more than Johnson would have stepped down without Eugene McCarthy's primary challenge.

Power, like nature, abhors a vacuum ...

I see your whoever said that and raise you Frederick Douglass: “Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.”

Without Obama's hand being forced by a challenger he won't step aside.

28 posted on 11/21/2011 4:15:16 PM PST by x
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To: Kaslin

Andrew Cuomo is positioning himself as the “moderate” alternative to obieOne.


29 posted on 11/21/2011 4:17:09 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

And the Clinton’s hate him, be it known.


30 posted on 11/21/2011 4:18:17 PM PST by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: Kaslin
"When Harry Truman and Lyndon Johnson accepted the reality that they could not effectively govern the nation if they sought re-election to the White House, both men took the moral high ground and decided against running for a new term as president. President Obama is facing a similar reality—and he must reach the same conclusion."

So did Harry Reid, yet he won. The key is who's gonna be the Republican candidate. Not Romney (which is wrong on issues), but neither is someone who might be right on issues but they can easily portray as extremist. You may not like it, but that's Sharon Angle was. I liked her positions on issues, but not her delivery nor her campaign.

31 posted on 11/21/2011 4:23:02 PM PST by paudio (0bama is like a bad mechanic who couldn't fix your car; he just makes it worse. Get somebody else!)
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To: Kaslin

Run, Obama, run! I want to see you get trounced in the next election!


32 posted on 11/21/2011 4:25:37 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: RetiredArmy
The Beast. The Beast. The Beast is back!!!

She never left. Watching and waiting. Watching and waiting.


33 posted on 11/21/2011 4:29:30 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Gil4
The convention delegates can nominate anyone they care to. Even you!

34 posted on 11/21/2011 4:29:31 PM PST by I see my hands (The old sod ne'er shall be forgot.)
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To: Kaslin

This was actually a pretty brilliant move on the Dems part.
Put in a dolt who looks to be “beating” hillary. Have him be a disaster. H comes in and saves the day!

They hold power for 10 years.


35 posted on 11/21/2011 4:30:06 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Kaslin

Can Hillary run as she has already served two terms as Co-President?

Remember her “WE are the President!” remark.


36 posted on 11/21/2011 4:30:16 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Kaslin

The dems are about to eat their own...i see tony rezko entering witness protection soon....


37 posted on 11/21/2011 4:31:12 PM PST by databoss
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To: LibFreeUSA

The left is setting up a “Hillary could save us all” scenario.

This is my theory.

After the convention, Obama will decide to leave the race due to whatever lame excuse. By Obama accepting the nomination, Biden is neutralized in case he wanted to throw his hat in the ring.

The draft Hillary movement will kick in. Hillary would accept the nomination approximately 29 days before the election. This way she avoids negative ads about her and it minimizes the money she will need to campaign.

There will be a legal challenge since ballots would already have to be printed and Hillary would be a write in. Torrecelli is the precedent and the rats would win.

(Write in.... hmmm. More opportunity to cheat as Alaska showed.)


38 posted on 11/21/2011 4:32:35 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: Kaslin

I’ve written before that I think this has been the plan all along.

Obama is the guy who takes all the arrows, but also manages to steer the United States into full-bore socialism. The left understands that it will be profoundly unpopular, and whoever is president will get the blame. So Obama stays in office until the convention, allowing the Republicans to run whoever against Obama’s record. In a surprise announcement, just before the Democrat convention, Obama says he won’t run for office, throwing the convention into turmoil, which also allows a dark horse to step in... such as Hillary Clinton, perceived as a “moderate,” already packed with foreign affairs experience, as well as domestic experience as a senator... and now the Republican strategy is in disarray, the Democrats grab the lead in the issue of changing leadership, and everyone gets to vote for the first female president. Hillary runs as a moderate, triangulating in the best Clinton tradition, but preserves the changes made by Obama with superficial alterations to mollify the opposition - hell, she’ll probably simplify the tax code and reduce rates in order to spur along the economy to get more government revenue. And we’ll continue our decline into a centrally planned state.

God help us.


39 posted on 11/21/2011 4:33:19 PM PST by redpoll
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To: Gil4

“Can she even get on the primary ballots in the early states?”

Doesn’t have to.

Remember there are two precedents. Torrecelli and Murkowski. Both happened for a reason.


40 posted on 11/21/2011 4:36:41 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: Signalman
"...Hillary is just as much a leftist as Obama..."

Yeah. She is. But she has worked a hell of a lot harder to disguise it. Obama's moon battery is out there for everyone to see, but he gets a pass.

She has learned to hide it, but the spots are the same.

41 posted on 11/21/2011 4:40:49 PM PST by rlmorel (The Rats won't be satisfied until every industry in the USA is in ruins and ripe for nationalization)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I don’t exactly know why, but I found that humorous. I shouldn’t, but I did...I guess it speaks volumes.


42 posted on 11/21/2011 4:42:47 PM PST by rlmorel (The Rats won't be satisfied until every industry in the USA is in ruins and ripe for nationalization)
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To: netmilsmom

10 years? What math are you using?


43 posted on 11/21/2011 4:47:09 PM PST by databoss
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To: Kaslin
The 'Rat knuckleheads figure Hellery has one of these, and that Zero doesn't. It might be true, but Her Royal Heinous is as much a Marxist as the current occupier of the White Hut.


44 posted on 11/21/2011 4:55:55 PM PST by twister881
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To: Kaslin

Bring back the first pervert. We need a pervert in the Oval Office instead of an idiot.


45 posted on 11/21/2011 5:02:25 PM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Don’t forget the dead man that beat Ashcroft, in Missouri.


46 posted on 11/21/2011 5:36:18 PM PST by itsahoot (Throw them all out!)
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To: Kaslin

Why are The democrats and Obama concerned about big donor contributions? With the porkulus slush fund, they should never need another private donation.


47 posted on 11/21/2011 5:39:34 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Fight for Liberty)
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To: Kaslin
>"Obama heads back on the "road" "

Let them eat flying buses!

48 posted on 11/21/2011 5:53:12 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: databoss

Holy crap!!!! Must have been a mom moment!!” Geez make that 12.


49 posted on 11/21/2011 5:59:25 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Kaslin; All

The Kenyan is too arrogant to step down. It won’t happen.


50 posted on 11/21/2011 7:41:56 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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