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Happy Halal Thanksgiving (Boycott Butterball)
American Thinker ^ | November 21, 2011 | Pamela Geller

Posted on 11/21/2011 6:47:27 PM PST by Mount Athos

Did you know that the turkey you're going to enjoy on Thanksgiving Day this Thursday is probably halal? If it's a Butterball turkey, then it certainly is.

I discovered that only two plants in the U.S. that perform halal slaughter keep the halal meat separated from the non-halal meat. At other meat-packing plants, animals are slaughtered following halal requirements, but then only a small bit of the meat is actually labeled halal.

Wendy Howze, a Butterball Consumer Response Representative, responded: "Our whole turkeys are certified halal."

Halal slaughter involves cutting the trachea, the esophagus, and the jugular vein, and letting the blood drain out while saying "Bismillah allahu akbar" -- in the name of Allah the greatest. Many people refuse to eat it on religious grounds.

Others object because of the cruelty to animals that halal slaughter necessitates.

Still others refuse to do so on principle: why should we be forced to conform to Islamic norms? It's Islamic supremacism on the march, yet again.

Non-Muslims in America and Europe don't deserve to have halal turkey forced upon them in this way, without their knowledge or consent.

The same Islamic law that mandates that animals be cruelly slaughtered according to halal requirements also teaches hatred of and warfare against unbelievers, the oppression of women, the extinguishing of free speech, and much more that is inimical to our freedom. Don't support it on this celebration of freedom. Join our Facebook group, 'Boycott Butterball'.

Don't buy a Butterball turkey for Thanksgiving.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: butterball; cosco; halal; turkey
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1 posted on 11/21/2011 6:47:29 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

Too late. Can I make up for it by passing gas in the direction of Mecca?


2 posted on 11/21/2011 6:50:10 PM PST by Ingtar
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To: Mount Athos

I believe that Butterball says their turkeys are halal. I just have a hard time that they have an individual praying to allah while each individual turkey is slaughtered. Or that they contribute a proceed from each halal turkey to some Islamic charity.

I bet they think that halal is similar to kosher and has to do solely with preparation.


3 posted on 11/21/2011 6:52:42 PM PST by mockingbyrd
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To: Mount Athos

Butterball can go on the list of do not buy Chinese dog food:)


4 posted on 11/21/2011 6:52:55 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Mount Athos

Gee, great idea to demand a Butterball Boycott when most people have already bought their birds. That’s like the TV News showing the wild drinking, drugs and sex binges of Spring break 2 weeks after break has taken place. Boycotts seldom work. And most people won’t care much of a drat where the throat was cut, just as long as the bird isn’t still flapping when being stuffed into the oven.


5 posted on 11/21/2011 6:53:33 PM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Mount Athos

We’ve been buying honey ham for quite a few year and making our own dressing, I cooked Butterball.....and I found them DRY AS DIRT.....no matter HOW I cooked them. Good riddance, IMO.


6 posted on 11/21/2011 6:54:41 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: theDentist

If I boycotted every company that ticked me off I’d be living a subsistence life in a tiny little hut in Montana.


7 posted on 11/21/2011 6:56:07 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mount Athos

***and letting the blood drain out while saying “Bismillah allahu akbar” — in the name of Allah the greatest. Many people refuse to eat it on religious grounds.***

1Cr 10:25 Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, [that] eat, asking no question for conscience sake:

1Cr 10:28 But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth [is] the Lord’s, and the fulness thereof:


8 posted on 11/21/2011 6:56:14 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Mount Athos

If you don’t believe in Allah, what difference does it make? Buy Butterball and don’t give away your power. By boycotting you admit it makes a difference.


9 posted on 11/21/2011 6:57:23 PM PST by turbocat
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To: Mount Athos
>"animals are slaughtered following halal requirements"

Satanic rituals are for satanic followers. Do Not Eat It!

10 posted on 11/21/2011 6:57:29 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: mockingbyrd
I believe that Butterball says their turkeys are halal. I just have a hard time that they have an individual praying to allah while each individual turkey is slaughtered.

My hope is that they're just jiving the moslems to get them to buy the turkeys...maybe later they'll announce the secret self-basting medium is bacon grease.

11 posted on 11/21/2011 6:59:08 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Mount Athos

Good grief! Why shouldn’t companies provide food that ethnic customers are willing to purchase? Makes for increased sales and a better bottom line. Why punish a company simply because you don’t like the customer base to which it’s trying to expand?


12 posted on 11/21/2011 7:01:02 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Mount Athos

I called the ButterBall Hotline and asked the nice lady who answered of the Butterball was Halal. She said yes. I asked if that means if a Muslim prayer was said over every turkey. She got flustered and looked up a corporate boiler plate text saying yes that the butter ball met hallal standards and that it was humane and holesome.

I said that ok but the question about the prayer wasn’t answered. She said she would find out.

I said that’s a good idea because they were going to get a deluge of calls about this and you’d better get it right.


13 posted on 11/21/2011 7:04:20 PM PST by DManA
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To: Mount Athos
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Eat ham!!!!

14 posted on 11/21/2011 7:04:54 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Mount Athos
Haven't bought a Butterball in years...so over rated and over priced. Give me a dirt cheap generic turkey and home brine it,seasoning and the correct cooking time and temp, it will beat any Buttball.
15 posted on 11/21/2011 7:05:04 PM PST by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: Mount Athos
I do believe we had a thread on that yesterday that got beyond the surface manifestations of the story and determined that the basic Halal requirement is simple ~ that the turkey not have been slaughtered in the name of some other God than Allah.

And they are not.

For most Halal products the goal is to have NO pig fat in them ~ which, because this is America, leads most Moslems who care about Halal to look for vegetarian products cooked in vegetable oils. That leads them to look for the big P that means pareve, or neutral, prepared without meat or dairy products or byproducts.

That's also of considerable interest to East Asians and others who are lactose intolerant.

Frankly, if I can't tell from the product list I'll look for Kosher for Passover which means no wheat, barley or rye (as well as a couple of other grains). "Kosher", by itself, is no guarantee that something is gluten free.

16 posted on 11/21/2011 7:05:10 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Mount Athos
If they want to tell some idiots they chant over their Butterball so they will buy them, that is just good business. I wouldn't care if they said the gave the Seig Heil Salute to a dead bird... I know they don't.
17 posted on 11/21/2011 7:06:40 PM PST by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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To: SuziQ
This I don't like.

while saying "Bismillah allahu akbar" -- in the name of Allah the greatest.

This makes me lose my appetite.

18 posted on 11/21/2011 7:06:59 PM PST by DManA
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
I cooked Butterball.....and I found them DRY AS DIRT.....no matter HOW I cooked them. Good riddance, IMO.

Are you sure this isn't operator error? LOL!

19 posted on 11/21/2011 7:08:17 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: BallyBill
I wouldn't care if they said the gave the Seig Heil Salute to a dead bird.

I absolutely would care. I wouldn't consciously do business with committed Nazis. Not if they bragged about it.

20 posted on 11/21/2011 7:09:38 PM PST by DManA
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To: Mount Athos

I got a feelin' this Thanksgiving is gonna be a memorable one ...

21 posted on 11/21/2011 7:10:42 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
If I boycotted every company that ticked me off I’d be living a subsistence life in a tiny little hut in Montana.

I'll finally get a neighbor. LOL!

22 posted on 11/21/2011 7:10:54 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: Mount Athos

When do you think we buy turkeys? You give us a story the day before cooking starts. Oh well. I never do boycotts anyway because bad news is as good as good news when you consider that everyone talks about it. Too late for this as Butterball already sold all the turkeys.


23 posted on 11/21/2011 7:11:02 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: muawiyah

If the Passover product goes to the trouble of including ground up unleavened bread (matzo) then yes it still has gluten.


24 posted on 11/21/2011 7:12:54 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: Mount Athos

Halal slaughter involves cutting the trachea, the esophagus, and the jugular vein, and letting the blood drain out while saying “Bismillah allahu akbar” —
............................................................

Daniel Pearl was Halal: I never knew that


25 posted on 11/21/2011 7:13:59 PM PST by Venturer
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To: DManA

That roughly translates as “You’ll need Pepto-Bismol when you hear us scream ‘Allah Akhbar’” (ok, ok, I took some liberties with it :-)


26 posted on 11/21/2011 7:14:37 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

***and letting the blood drain out while saying “Bismillah allahu akbar” — in the name of Allah the greatest. Many people refuse to eat it on religious grounds.***

So another words, you are an activist because you believe in Allah. I don’t give a dang what they scream. Allah is fiction so basically they might as well say, Mickey Mouse please pray on this turkey. I could cares less if they even use Mickey while preparing because as soon as that bird hits our table, we wipe out all their fictional prayers and I pray to God....the true God as most FREEPERS believe.


27 posted on 11/21/2011 7:14:48 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: DManA
It has been an ancient custom to pray for the animal that's been sacrificed for your meal. This is not at all peculiar to Moslems. Christian Arabs would traditionally use terminology very similar to that.

So, prayer makes you lose your appetite, or Arabic, or the self-identity of the guy making the prayer?

28 posted on 11/21/2011 7:15:43 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Prayer to a demon does.


29 posted on 11/21/2011 7:17:54 PM PST by DManA
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To: Venturer

Halal slaughter involves cutting the trachea, the esophagus, and the jugular vein, and letting the blood drain out while saying “Bismillah allahu akbar” —

If you believe that the company does this to every bird than I have a bridge to sell you. First of all you would have to have many Muslim Clerics onboard and for them to announce a single prayer before or during every killing would slow down production. There is no way that this is being done. Not cost effective at all. Although telling people they do that could add a few Muslims to their buying group. First of all, in Turkey factories, you will find millions of hispanics who are not going to say those words as they are the ones doing to work. Most are Catholic so even if the company made them say the words every throat cut, it would not mean anything as Catholics don’t believe in those words. I can honestly say this is much ado about nothing.


30 posted on 11/21/2011 7:21:46 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Mount Athos

I can’t believe that an illegal alien chanted some muzzie crap before they killed a turkey.

Sorry.


31 posted on 11/21/2011 7:23:19 PM PST by Eaker (Nothing even remotely praising Romney should be posted because one should stick to the truth.)
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To: muawiyah
prayer makes you lose your appetite, or Arabic, or the self-identity of the guy making the prayer?

Well, there's always the fear in the back of your mind, that the islamoturkey may just explode killing everyone at the table.

32 posted on 11/21/2011 7:23:31 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: DManA

Prayer to a demon does.

Do you believe in that demon? If you don’t than the minute you pray at the table it erases all that nonsense that they spew.


33 posted on 11/21/2011 7:23:56 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

So your defense of the company is the lie. I am not impressed. I called the hot line. They claim the birds are hallal.


34 posted on 11/21/2011 7:24:29 PM PST by DManA
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To: Mount Athos

Slaughtering animals by cutting the jugular vein is not particular to Islam. It’s only Islam that makes the practice into a superstitious ritual.


35 posted on 11/21/2011 7:24:48 PM PST by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: Mount Athos

From Rabbi Lerner:

Judaism has always respected the lives of animal - from the time of giving of the Ten Commandments until the present. Rules for kosher slaughtering of animals developed from the rules of the sacrificial system in the Temple. By the time of the Rabbis - at least 2000 years ago - Jews took the lives of animals as humanely as possible according to the best science of the day.

During those 3000 and more years, animals were slaughtered in the most inhumane ways by virtually every people on the face of the earth. This inhumane slaughtering continues today in more places in the world than not.

Recently, kosher slaughtering has been undergoing some change in response to new scientific information. Jews have begun to alter the traditional “hoisting and shackling” to favor a pen, even though it is a much slower procedure and increases the cost of kosher meat.

In addition to being lifted up, a ritual slaughterer must move to the animal quickly, use a knife that is incredibly sharp and without even the slightest nick, and cut through the animal’s trachea and esophagus in a single motion (at least one of these for fowl). All this is required in order to try to minimize the animal’s suffering.

The ultimate question is whether it is possible to kill an animal without causing some pain and fear? Given the answer is not definitely positive, Judaism has endorsed vegetarianism - which does not require killing an animal - as a “higher” form of eating.

In sum, you can reassure your son that kosher slaughtering is the way that Jews try to minimize the pain and fear felt by animals being killed for food.

Halal and Kosher man permitted foods. It is the method of slaughter. Also drains the blood. Happy Turkey Day.


36 posted on 11/21/2011 7:25:03 PM PST by marty60
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To: Ingtar

“Too late. Can I make up for it by passing gas in the direction of Mecca?”

This will help you point in the right direction:
http://www.qiblalocator.com/


37 posted on 11/21/2011 7:25:20 PM PST by Rebelbase (Yes we Cain!)
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To: napscoordinator

In buying a turkey there are many choices. I would prefer to buy from a company who does not dedicate their product to Satan.


38 posted on 11/21/2011 7:26:05 PM PST by DManA
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To: marty60

They aren’t claiming the bird is Kosher. They are claiming it’s hallal. I don’t care how they kill it. I care they pray to a demon at the moment of death.


39 posted on 11/21/2011 7:28:23 PM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

Love this country, freedom and all.


40 posted on 11/21/2011 7:29:13 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Reach in the big hole in back to check for the bomb.

That’s where you’ll find the giblets!

Oh, you didn’t know that?

Bet you were surprised when that white package didn’t go off after being in the oven at high heat all that time.

WOW!


41 posted on 11/21/2011 7:29:18 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: napscoordinator

***So another words, you are an activist because you believe in Allah. I don’t give a dang what they scream.***

Is this a reference to me? or the person who wrote the article. I’m showing that if someone gives you some food you eat it. If they give you food and say it was sacrificed to any false god YOU DON’T EAT IT!


42 posted on 11/21/2011 7:29:53 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: napscoordinator

I don’t understand your post. Please explain?


43 posted on 11/21/2011 7:30:17 PM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

Sorry. I meant that we all are LUCKY to be able to buy or not buy what we want.


44 posted on 11/21/2011 7:32:11 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

Yes. Thank God.


45 posted on 11/21/2011 7:32:53 PM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

Magic doesn’t work nor does it exist.


46 posted on 11/21/2011 7:32:59 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I absolutely agree with you. My soul is not in jeopardy. I just don’t want my dollars supporting this crap.


47 posted on 11/21/2011 7:37:56 PM PST by DManA
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To: muawiyah
That’s where you’ll find the giblets!

Oh, you didn’t know that?

Bet you were surprised when that white package didn’t go off after being in the oven at high heat all that time.

WOW!

???

Yeah, I've cooked a few birds, but none "blessed" by murderers.

48 posted on 11/21/2011 7:42:17 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Mount Athos

A little sausage stuffing should fix that halal crap


49 posted on 11/21/2011 7:43:32 PM PST by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: ladyvet

Our wood molding plant produces tons of wood shavings. The nearby Hutterite communities use them as bedding for their free range chickens and turkeys. They get the shavings, we get the chickens and turkeys.

The barter system works well for us and our employees.

Their poultry is the best I’ve ever had.

No Butterballs for me.


50 posted on 11/21/2011 7:44:26 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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