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In plea deal, youth gets 21 years for killing gay teen
LA Times ^ | 11.21.11 | Catherine Saillant,

Posted on 11/21/2011 9:27:10 PM PST by trumandogz

A teenager who fatally shot a gay classmate in the back of the head during an Oxnard middle school computer lab will spend 21 years in prison under a plea deal reached Monday, closing the books on a case that drew international headlines and ignited debate on how schools should handle sexual identity issues.

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KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; larryking; oxnard; schoolshooting
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He must have not liked his chances with a jury.
1 posted on 11/21/2011 9:27:14 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

He already had a jury. They were hung. I think the problem was that the prosecution tried to over-charge in order to placate the homos.


2 posted on 11/21/2011 9:30:20 PM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: trumandogz

Students and teachers at the trial testified that King had been dressing in women’s accessories and wearing makeup, and was flirting aggressively with male students on campus who did not want the attention.

School administrators sent a memo advising teachers to give King his space, but to report safety problems. Teachers at the trial testified that when they tried to report growing tensions between King and several boys, school leaders shunned them.

The victim’s mother, Dawn King, revealed for the first time Monday that she had contacted school officials four days before the shooting in an effort to solicit their cooperation in toning down her son’s behavior. The boy had been taken from the Kings’ home two months earlier by authorities because of problems at home.

She said she was told that her son had a civil right to explore his sexual identity.



3 posted on 11/21/2011 9:34:44 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: JoeDetweiler

Twenty one years is a long time for a 17 year old kid, and hopefully while in prison he will change his ways, come to a better understanding of others and not be the cold blooded killer that he was when he was 14.


4 posted on 11/21/2011 9:35:47 PM PST by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: trumandogz

I guess I live in a cave, for a story that got ‘international headlines’ this is the first I’ve heard of it.

I couldn’t care less that the victim was gay, this scum deserves 21 years, at least. Someone’s sex issues have nothing to do with it.


5 posted on 11/21/2011 9:36:53 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: trumandogz

..”after days of conflict between the boys.”... Students and teachers at the trial testified that King had been dressing in women’s accessories and wearing makeup, and was “flirting aggressively with male students on campus who did not want the attention.”

‘School administrators’ sent a memo advising teachers to give King his space, .....but to report safety problems. Teachers at the trial testified that when they tried to report growing tensions between King and several boys,... “school leaders shunned them”.

The victim’s mother, Dawn King, revealed for the first time Monday that ...she had contacted school officials four days before the shooting in an effort to solicit their cooperation in “toning down her son’s behavior”. .....”The boy had been taken from the Kings’ home two months earlier by authorities because of problems at home.”

She said she was told that her son had a civil right to “explore his sexual identity.”

I posted this portion of the article because it reveals much about this case.....IMO what about the kids rights not to be hassled by a kid who is known to have many issues at home enough to remove him from the home....enough that teachers went to the school officials because of the issues he was creating for the other kids...but were shunned.

This does not excuse the boy who shot him...but where is it that we think any of our children are capable of handling disturbed and aggressive kids on a constant regardless of whatever reasons they are being agressive about.....but equally as much in this case having kids “accept” this aggresive behavior with the schools leaderships authority supporting that behavior by their refusal to intervene?

IMO the school leadership should have been charged....the kid who shot him should not have been given this lengthy jail term...you just can’t expect kids in the schools today as they are to handle these kids...it’s just sooo wrong!


6 posted on 11/21/2011 9:47:46 PM PST by caww
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To: trumandogz

It’s a complicated case. For instance, it isn’t clear that the victim was really gay. He was a small kid who learned that acting gay made him a member of a protected class. It also gave him a weapon with which to bully the bigger kids and a lot of the evidence says that that is exactly what he did.

The prosecution tried to paint the killer as a gay hating Nazi because he had a fascination with World War II stuff on the history channel. The evidence suggests that he was more a victim of the “gay” kids bullying.

Obviously, the kid way overreacted. I’m not arguing that he should walk free. The question has been what is the appropriate sentence. I think second degree is about as good as anything.

Here is a good article on the case from before the trial...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2008/07/18/young-gay-and-murdered.html


7 posted on 11/21/2011 9:57:41 PM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: icwhatudo

This is the fault of the school. Pingout tomorrow. Forcing sick and evil perversion on the other kids will lead to more and more of this.


8 posted on 11/21/2011 9:59:11 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Darkwolf377

If you read all the details, it’s not that simple.


9 posted on 11/21/2011 9:59:50 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

What’s complicated about it, specifically?


10 posted on 11/21/2011 10:03:51 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: little jeremiah

Oh, right, the ‘aggressive flirting’ by some perv kid.

Obviously, we should pass a law saying that aggressive flirting—not rape, not molestation, but flirting—by humans with ideas about sex that we don’t agree with should allow for blowing someone’s head off. The feminists and other manhaters would love that.


11 posted on 11/21/2011 10:09:11 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: little jeremiah

“Forcing sick and evil perversion on the other kids will lead to more and more of this.”

And tomorrow, hundreds of millions of Americans will go to school or work with gays and I doubt that very many of those Americans will murder their gay school or work mates.

And if one does happen to murder someone he works with or is in his school, he should also go to prison or the execution chamber.


12 posted on 11/21/2011 10:12:46 PM PST by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: trumandogz

As usual you are a total idiot.


13 posted on 11/21/2011 10:16:45 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Darkwolf377

All I’m saying is that mentally ill sex perverts do not belong in school displaying their mentally ill sexual perversion, and mentally ill sex perverts should not be working in the schools. The principal of the school is a mentally ill sex pervert and allowed this to happen up to the point of the killing.

They are complicit.

The homosexual agenda is evil and those who push it, promote it, excuse it or pretend it doesn’t exist are complicit.


14 posted on 11/21/2011 10:18:33 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

Do you disagree with my assertion that students who murder their fellow students should be sent to prison?


15 posted on 11/21/2011 10:26:18 PM PST by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: little jeremiah

I agree about the homosexual agenda. I’m just saying it actually isn’t that complicated in the actual case, as opposed to what led to the situation. Blowing people’s heads off is and should be against the law, period. The ‘yeah, but’ stuff is the province of the post-Freudians who cook up excuses and rationales for murder to excuse criminals. That the gay activists do it doesn’t make it any less wrong than it’s ever been. I’m a ‘a society of laws not men’ type.


16 posted on 11/21/2011 10:47:40 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: Darkwolf377

In todays schools, gays can grope or cop feels all they want and all that is is “Agressive Flirting”. Were this male on female the school would have treated it as the harrasment that it was.

I take it your kids have been grown and out of school a long time.

You seem extremely clueless.


17 posted on 11/21/2011 10:51:29 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: trumandogz

The shooting happened in Oxnard. The offender was pressured and harassed by a flaming faggot and no superiors stepped in to fix the situation. So the offender grabbed a gun and killed the faggot. The teachers, administrators and parents are equally at fault since they prepared and set the table for the faggot’s murder. Evil was present on campus and no one stopped it except a young kid with a gun. He is guilty but the pressure on him was immense.


18 posted on 11/21/2011 11:21:14 PM PST by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: trumandogz
flirting aggressively with male students on campus who did not want the attention.

Aggressive gay sexual harassment is extremely offensive, and reliably produces violent responses from young heterosexual males who "do not want the attention." Had Larry King sexually harassed girls, I am sure that the school administrators would have responded quickly and appropriately. But when forced to choose between a gay harasser and straight young male harassment victims, the administrators decided to be politically correct. They decided to be "sensitive." Sensitive to the gay guy, who else? The kids he harassed would just have to take it, and take it, and take it. Their concerns did not matter, and their anger could be safely ignored.

Which led to a highly predictable outcome.

19 posted on 11/21/2011 11:38:39 PM PST by TChad
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To: Darkwolf377

This is exactly what egalitarianism/Marxism creates....when you destroy God’s standards of Right and Wrong and adopt some sick perverted views of human behavior and force children to “pretend” it is “good” and “normal”. It is sick and perverted from every standard of logic, reason and biology.

It is the school system’s Bill Ayers’ type curricula that forces perversion/atheism/Satanism in the schools—since they threw out the God centered McGuffey Readers and replaced it with the Fabian Socialist Dewey’s curricula and forced it into all schools because of the commie Carter with DOE.

That boy who shot that mentally ill boy (who should have been in a mental institution) was forced to protect his honor and reputation because the administration was ignoring it.

Where was the zero tolerance of bullying-—Oh, it doesn’t exist for the homosexuals....they can break all rules, bully, tease, and be rude and vulgar and mock God and their bodies and it’s ok. IN fact: It’s their Right!!!!!

All because of the egalitarianism of Marx to make men and women interchangeable so they can confuse children and destroy the family so that children will be totally controlled by the State.

Public schools should be abolished. They are socialist/Marxist/atheist indoctrination centers and promote immorality-—the very things which the Founders condemned. Virtue and Truth are necessary for freedom—Saying a boy is a girl is a boy and that two men can take care of babies as well as the biological mother and father is such a Big Lie and disturbing to rights of all children who deserve a biological mother and father for their safety and health which all studies says is the best method of raising psychologically healthy human beings.

The school administrators should be in jail. Sick, mentally ill children should be expelled like 40 years ago when schools actually taught something. That boy that killed should never have been forced into that situation where no adults would handle the disruptive, immoral behavior of the homosexual.

I am not condoning killing people, but children are not mature human beings...that is why they are still under adult supervision. We have adults allowing insane people to run the schools. This will create chaos and killings. Rule of Law and Reason and Logic create moral, good people. Schools teach nonsense and cr*p like take pride in immoral dysfunctional behaviors and they promote all dysfunctional behaviors—truly insane—so insanity will be the result.


20 posted on 11/22/2011 12:43:08 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: Falconspeed; TChad

Males and females in public schools receive unwanted sexual advances and are sexually harassed each and every day. The vast majority of these people are able to handle these advances or harassment in a much more responsible manner than murder.

Hopefully, Brandon McInerney will in the next 21 years learn to better deal with unwanted sexual advances.


21 posted on 11/22/2011 12:46:24 AM PST by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: savagesusie

Perhaps you are not condoning murder, but in this case do you find justification in this particular murder?


22 posted on 11/22/2011 12:50:48 AM PST by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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That boy who shot that mentally ill boy (who should have been in a mental institution) was forced to protect his honor and reputation because the administration was ignoring it.

I'm sorry, because I appreciate your well-written post, but this is ridiculous. His 'honor and reputation'? It's high school. It was FLIRTING--perverted and gross, sure, but he wasn't sexually assaulted.

The school failed all the way, but flirting doesn't 'force' someone to protect his reputation. I work with teenagers with criminal records and histories of abuse, including sexual, and this kid should have simply not gone to school or something to 'protect his honor and reputation" (which is the rationalization for honor killings, fer pete's sake).

We can and should blame the idiot lib school teachers and the PC crap that allows this kind of thing to go on, but what are we teaching kids--that killing isn't condoned but it can be rationalized? What if a girl he didn't like was coming on to him (and girls today are very sexually aggressive)? Answer: We wouldn't be having this conversation, because we'd be laughing at the excuse. That the victim was in your own words mentally ill should put shame on this murderer. I'm trying to imagine another case where we'd be explaining away the killing of the mentally damaged, which we are always fighting against when the person in question is in a hospital, for example.

I'm sorry, but while I loathe the homosexual agenda, I just have zero sympathy for these excuses. What happens when a Muslim kid kills a Christian kid in school because of 'honor'? I suspect your response won't be the same (even though the Muslim could probably be considered brain damaged in that case).

The idea that this kid was pushed to the point where he had no alternative but to break the law and kill is ludicrous--I suspect he had other issues he wasn't dealing with, and his family should be ashamed for not stepping in where the school failed. What happened to our morality concerning the parents, not the teachers, teaching our kids morals, ethics, and the proper way to maintain self-respect?

That 21 years in prison is sure gonna help his honor and reputation.

23 posted on 11/22/2011 1:01:58 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: trumandogz

First, the term murder prejudges the action.

One student did use deadly force. The question should be, “Was deadly force justifiably executed?”

Some 30 years ago, within a generation, deadly force was justifiably used in the prevention of a felony.

We have decriminalized many activities so as not to judge others, but such decriminalization simply fails to adequately discriminate between legitimate and illegitimate behavior.

Who is more ethical, the boy who used deadly force or the generation which denied him his God given rights of not having to accept aggressive homosexual assault upon his person?


24 posted on 11/22/2011 1:04:49 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

“Who is more ethical, the boy who used deadly force or the generation which denied him his God given rights of not having to accept aggressive homosexual assault upon his person?”

I’m not quite sure we need a society where it is legal for males to kill males for unwanted sexual advances or where women kill women for unwanted sexual advances or women kill men for unwanted sexual advances or men kill women for unwanted sexual advances.

However, the reality of our society is that when one person murders another person, the person who is the murderer goes to prison.


25 posted on 11/22/2011 1:25:17 AM PST by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: trumandogz
I hope he got the sentence for murdering a human being...not a gay human being.

Attacks against gays should not be viewed as more heinous than attacks against straight people.

26 posted on 11/22/2011 2:25:03 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: little jeremiah

Nothing complicated.
Boy coming on to guys that do not care for the attention.
Same as a female student receiving unwanted advances.
Had it been the latter the school administration would have taken action.
Since it had to do with homosexuality the administration didn’t know what to do about it.


27 posted on 11/22/2011 2:48:08 AM PST by Joe Boucher (FUBO ya quota boy ( Real conservative or go fish, Sooo, that leaves you out Mitt))
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To: little jeremiah

This is the fault of the school. Pingout tomorrow. Forcing sick and evil perversion on the other kids will lead to more and more of this.

^^^
Exactly. The progressives thrive on stirring up conflict among various groups. There is now more racial tension than there was during the days of racial segregation because of progressives’ agitation. There is far more violence against homosexuals now than there was when they were “in the closet” because the progressives insist on forcing the perverts on everyone else.


28 posted on 11/22/2011 3:02:54 AM PST by Bigg Red (Maryland girl on the Cain Train)
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To: trumandogz

Aggressive homosexual behavior includes unwanted attempts to enter the body of another also past known as attempted molestation/rape.

A woman has the right to defend herself from rape and attempts to rape her, if need be by deadly force, especially against a much stronger rapist.

Again, the first issue is to not decriminalize felonious behavior and then to identify the actions of the perpetrator if deadly force was warranted.


29 posted on 11/22/2011 4:17:41 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: trumandogz

So the adults at the school entrapped normal boys with a flaming homosexual harasser and refused to “tone down” the pervert’s behavior in respect of other male students even when they knew the flamer was being sexually aggressive.

Men should not have to tolerate being sexually harassed by mentally ill flaming perverts and their reaction of violence (verbal or physical) towards homosexual harassers is a normal response. Sexual harassment is sexual dominance.

Liberals want to train men to submit to homosexual dominance starting as boys. The adults turned that school into a jail with boy inmates to serve as sex objects for the pervert community. One boy was not playing the game of sex victim. It is the adults who sexually abused the boys who should be going to jail.


30 posted on 11/22/2011 4:29:54 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: trumandogz

This is one case where we won’t hear the Left wailing about how unfair it is to charge a 14-year-old as an adult.


31 posted on 11/22/2011 4:39:50 AM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: icwhatudo

” was flirting aggressively with male students on campus who did not want the attention.”
This is called sexual harassment. A crime. So it appears the perverted homosexuals. Feel they can sexually harass normal people. Hold the school officials responsible for allowing perverted homosexuals to sexual harass normal students.


32 posted on 11/22/2011 8:15:21 AM PST by DMG2FUN
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To: Darkwolf377

Having teenage boys flirt with boys insults their sexual identity. You obviously don’t understand sexual identity formation and the vulnerability of peer pressure and peer ridicule when boys are pursuing boys.

That behavior was glorified in Greece, and therefore, not an insult to manhood, but in a Christian society—the Western one—which rid all Christian societies of this glorification of perversions such as homosexuality and pederasty which was prevalent and still exists in Afghanistan—it means entirely a different thing.

Sexual advances of perverted individuals is deeply offensive to teenage boys who are trying to establish manhood in Western Society. Granted, in atheist/pagan societies it was “flirting”—a type of compliment to one’s
sexual attractiveness. When done in a Christian paradigm, it is deeply offensive—particularly to adolescence who are vulnerable to perceptions and ridicule from peers.

Granted, the boy should never have killed the other person. But our unconstitutional school system set this situation up. They are creating the criminals you work with—along with no fathers in homes.

We need to get rid of the DOE and get back to local control of all schooling and eliminate the cultural Marxist’s curricula which is trying to destroy Natural Law and turn humans into some perverted Brave New World where boys are girls are whatever.


33 posted on 11/22/2011 9:08:31 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie

“That behavior was glorified in Greece,”
At the end of the civilization.


34 posted on 11/22/2011 9:16:55 AM PST by DMG2FUN
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To: DMG2FUN

No. You are entirely wrong....Restrictions on sex was only placed by the Jews early on and later by the Stoics and Christians. Pederasty was normal in Greece from early on and so was homosexuality...as was killing babies. Women were never equals of men—they were just breeders, but even they could ask the husband for permission to make babies with other handsome men. Of course, the husbands were the masters and decided.

Boys were men’s sexual recreation —Just like in today’s Afghanistan—women were not bothered much. In fact, later in Greece they had to make laws which encouraged men forming bonds with women so they would produce children.


35 posted on 11/22/2011 9:32:06 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: Darkwolf377
I couldn’t care less that the victim was gay, this scum deserves 21 years, at least. Someone’s sex issues have nothing to do with it.

I don't think there's anything to prepare a heterosexual youth to be extremely sexually harassed by a cross dressing homosexual who is protected and encouraged by the vice principal in all his actions.

The kid finally popped and it cost a life. The school is at fault for encouraging the cross dresser's obvious mental disorder and protecting him from the consequences of his actions. In doing so, he pushed another child beyond his ability to cope with the situation.

Scum? I don't know that, but I'd be hard pressed not to be violent towards any homosexual who sexually harassed my children. It is a deeply perverted and sick behavior that simply doesn't compute within the realms of sanity.

36 posted on 11/22/2011 12:39:48 PM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Bigg Red; Cvengr; SaraJohnson; trumandogz; FormerLib; icwhatudo; DMG2FUN; Darkwolf377; ...

Pinging those involved on this thread to this discussion, Rush talked about it today, apparently. The principal (or perhaps the VP, can’t remember) is an open female homosexual and actively promotes the homosexual agenda in this school, as administrators do in schools all over the country. Also, I don’t think Rush mentioned it, at least not in what was posted in the link below, the kid who killed Larry King had been abused when he was young; not sure if sexual abuse or what kind, but he had his own bad history.

The bottom line is this would never, ever have happened if the school authorities were not pushing the evil, disgusting and sick homosexual agenda.


Pushing an Agenda: Larry King is Dead After School Ignores Mother’s Plea
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | November 22, 2011 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:51:59 PM by Kaslin

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: From the Los Angeles Times: “A teenager who fatally shot a gay classmate in the back of the head during an Oxnard middle school computer lab will spend 21 years in prison under a plea deal reached Monday, closing the books on a case that drew international headlines and ignited debate on how schools should handle sexual identity issues.

“Brandon McInerney, who was 14 when he pulled a gun out of his backpack and shot Larry King two times at point-blank range, will be kept behind bars until he is 38 under the terms of the deal struck by Ventura County prosecutors. In an unusual arrangement, the 17-year-old pleaded guilty to second-degree and voluntary manslaughter. In return, prosecutors agreed not to go forward with a second trial, which could have resulted in a life sentence.” Okay, so what happened here? “The family of the victim, Larry King, broke their silence on the case outside court Monday, saying that they supported the sentence but believed school officials hold deep responsibility for what happened.

(More at the link)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2811087/posts?page=9


37 posted on 11/22/2011 1:44:26 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

“The bottom line is this would never, ever have happened if the school authorities were not pushing the evil, disgusting and sick homosexual agenda.”

No, the bottom line is that Brandon McInerney is a cold blooded killer who decided one morning that he was going to murder King and slipped his gun into his backpack. He then walked up to King and pulled the trigger multiple times.

Brandon McInerney is a killer and is getting off easy with only 21 years in prison.


38 posted on 11/22/2011 4:21:54 PM PST by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: SaraJohnson

“Men should not have to tolerate being sexually harassed by mentally ill flaming perverts and their reaction of violence (verbal or physical) towards homosexual harassers is a normal response. Sexual harassment is sexual dominance.”

And women should not have to sexually harassed by other women.

And men should not have to be sexually harassed by women.

And women should have have to be sexually harassed by men.

However, sexual harassment should not result in homicide.

And when it does, the person who did the killing goes to prison for a very long time.


39 posted on 11/22/2011 4:35:32 PM PST by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: trumandogz

A school whose adminstration forces students to tolerate mentally ill sex perverts aggressivly groping and harrassing them is at fault. Of course, the 14 year old boy is at fault - but the adults who were supposedly supervising and in loco parentis of all the children at school share a great deal of blame.

You, as usual, are a nasty little burr who purposely ignores truth and reality and serves no purpose on FR other than to try to rile up conservatives by your aggressive and deceitful tactics.


40 posted on 11/22/2011 4:55:15 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

“You, as usual, are a nasty little burr who purposely ignores truth and reality and serves no purpose on FR other than to try to rile up conservatives by your aggressive and deceitful tactics.”

I believe the only stand I have taken is that the school shooter should go to prison for a very long time for the murder of a classmate.

Perhaps, it was just the way I was raised in that were I come where we are tough on crime and send murderers away for a very long time.


41 posted on 11/22/2011 5:02:48 PM PST by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: trumandogz

“However, sexual harassment should not result in homicide.”

It does though. Should we ignore why?


42 posted on 11/22/2011 5:21:28 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: APatientMan

“It does though. Should we ignore why?”

No, we really cannot ignore murder.


43 posted on 11/22/2011 5:41:03 PM PST by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: APatientMan
It does though. Should we ignore why?

Should we not punish a killer if he says he did it because his feelings were being hurt by the victim?

44 posted on 11/22/2011 5:41:38 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Mostly, people get what they get for what they do. That seems about right to me.


45 posted on 11/22/2011 5:46:16 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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And in this case the killer got 21 years for what he did. That seems about right to me, too.

The irony, of course, is that he'll be fresh meat in prison, where the homosexual advances made on him won't be just flirtation.

46 posted on 11/22/2011 5:50:39 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: trumandogz

I think a lot of homos would be dead in prison if victims of physical harassment had a gun. If you a teenage boy who can not get out from under a situation of sexual abuse at your pc prison-school, violence is perfectly fine in self defense, imo.

I would not find a boy guilty of killing an aggressive sexual perp. they could not get to stop otherwise. Too bad none of the boys were able to plug Sandusky. That would have been one way to stop him - the only way.


47 posted on 11/22/2011 5:50:54 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: trumandogz

“No, we really cannot ignore murder.”

Nobody is ignoring the murder. Guy got 21 years for it.

Ignoring the steady degradation of our morals gets what it gets.


48 posted on 11/22/2011 5:52:25 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Agreed. That sums up what we’ve become pretty well.


49 posted on 11/22/2011 5:56:14 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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“If you {sic} a teenage boy who can not get out from under a situation of sexual abuse at your pc prison-school, violence is perfectly fine in self defense, imo.”

Are teenage boys the only ones who should be able to get away with murder or should girls in school also be able to murder those who harass them or hit on them?

“I would not find a boy guilty...”

No need for you to find him not guilty on a jury as Brandon McInerney plead guilty to his crime.

However, if you like, you can tell tell Brandon of your belief in his innocence some time in late 2032.


50 posted on 11/22/2011 6:01:40 PM PST by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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