Posted on 11/21/2011 9:27:10 PM PST by trumandogz
A teenager who fatally shot a gay classmate in the back of the head during an Oxnard middle school computer lab will spend 21 years in prison under a plea deal reached Monday, closing the books on a case that drew international headlines and ignited debate on how schools should handle sexual identity issues.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
Males and females in public schools receive unwanted sexual advances and are sexually harassed each and every day. The vast majority of these people are able to handle these advances or harassment in a much more responsible manner than murder.
Hopefully, Brandon McInerney will in the next 21 years learn to better deal with unwanted sexual advances.
Perhaps you are not condoning murder, but in this case do you find justification in this particular murder?
I'm sorry, because I appreciate your well-written post, but this is ridiculous. His 'honor and reputation'? It's high school. It was FLIRTING--perverted and gross, sure, but he wasn't sexually assaulted.
The school failed all the way, but flirting doesn't 'force' someone to protect his reputation. I work with teenagers with criminal records and histories of abuse, including sexual, and this kid should have simply not gone to school or something to 'protect his honor and reputation" (which is the rationalization for honor killings, fer pete's sake).
We can and should blame the idiot lib school teachers and the PC crap that allows this kind of thing to go on, but what are we teaching kids--that killing isn't condoned but it can be rationalized? What if a girl he didn't like was coming on to him (and girls today are very sexually aggressive)? Answer: We wouldn't be having this conversation, because we'd be laughing at the excuse. That the victim was in your own words mentally ill should put shame on this murderer. I'm trying to imagine another case where we'd be explaining away the killing of the mentally damaged, which we are always fighting against when the person in question is in a hospital, for example.
I'm sorry, but while I loathe the homosexual agenda, I just have zero sympathy for these excuses. What happens when a Muslim kid kills a Christian kid in school because of 'honor'? I suspect your response won't be the same (even though the Muslim could probably be considered brain damaged in that case).
The idea that this kid was pushed to the point where he had no alternative but to break the law and kill is ludicrous--I suspect he had other issues he wasn't dealing with, and his family should be ashamed for not stepping in where the school failed. What happened to our morality concerning the parents, not the teachers, teaching our kids morals, ethics, and the proper way to maintain self-respect?
That 21 years in prison is sure gonna help his honor and reputation.
First, the term murder prejudges the action.
One student did use deadly force. The question should be, “Was deadly force justifiably executed?”
Some 30 years ago, within a generation, deadly force was justifiably used in the prevention of a felony.
We have decriminalized many activities so as not to judge others, but such decriminalization simply fails to adequately discriminate between legitimate and illegitimate behavior.
Who is more ethical, the boy who used deadly force or the generation which denied him his God given rights of not having to accept aggressive homosexual assault upon his person?
“Who is more ethical, the boy who used deadly force or the generation which denied him his God given rights of not having to accept aggressive homosexual assault upon his person?”
I’m not quite sure we need a society where it is legal for males to kill males for unwanted sexual advances or where women kill women for unwanted sexual advances or women kill men for unwanted sexual advances or men kill women for unwanted sexual advances.
However, the reality of our society is that when one person murders another person, the person who is the murderer goes to prison.
Attacks against gays should not be viewed as more heinous than attacks against straight people.
Nothing complicated.
Boy coming on to guys that do not care for the attention.
Same as a female student receiving unwanted advances.
Had it been the latter the school administration would have taken action.
Since it had to do with homosexuality the administration didn’t know what to do about it.
This is the fault of the school. Pingout tomorrow. Forcing sick and evil perversion on the other kids will lead to more and more of this.
^^^
Exactly. The progressives thrive on stirring up conflict among various groups. There is now more racial tension than there was during the days of racial segregation because of progressives’ agitation. There is far more violence against homosexuals now than there was when they were “in the closet” because the progressives insist on forcing the perverts on everyone else.
Aggressive homosexual behavior includes unwanted attempts to enter the body of another also past known as attempted molestation/rape.
A woman has the right to defend herself from rape and attempts to rape her, if need be by deadly force, especially against a much stronger rapist.
Again, the first issue is to not decriminalize felonious behavior and then to identify the actions of the perpetrator if deadly force was warranted.
So the adults at the school entrapped normal boys with a flaming homosexual harasser and refused to “tone down” the pervert’s behavior in respect of other male students even when they knew the flamer was being sexually aggressive.
Men should not have to tolerate being sexually harassed by mentally ill flaming perverts and their reaction of violence (verbal or physical) towards homosexual harassers is a normal response. Sexual harassment is sexual dominance.
Liberals want to train men to submit to homosexual dominance starting as boys. The adults turned that school into a jail with boy inmates to serve as sex objects for the pervert community. One boy was not playing the game of sex victim. It is the adults who sexually abused the boys who should be going to jail.
This is one case where we won’t hear the Left wailing about how unfair it is to charge a 14-year-old as an adult.
” was flirting aggressively with male students on campus who did not want the attention.”
This is called sexual harassment. A crime. So it appears the perverted homosexuals. Feel they can sexually harass normal people. Hold the school officials responsible for allowing perverted homosexuals to sexual harass normal students.
Having teenage boys flirt with boys insults their sexual identity. You obviously don’t understand sexual identity formation and the vulnerability of peer pressure and peer ridicule when boys are pursuing boys.
That behavior was glorified in Greece, and therefore, not an insult to manhood, but in a Christian society—the Western one—which rid all Christian societies of this glorification of perversions such as homosexuality and pederasty which was prevalent and still exists in Afghanistan—it means entirely a different thing.
Sexual advances of perverted individuals is deeply offensive to teenage boys who are trying to establish manhood in Western Society. Granted, in atheist/pagan societies it was “flirting”—a type of compliment to one’s
sexual attractiveness. When done in a Christian paradigm, it is deeply offensive—particularly to adolescence who are vulnerable to perceptions and ridicule from peers.
Granted, the boy should never have killed the other person. But our unconstitutional school system set this situation up. They are creating the criminals you work with—along with no fathers in homes.
We need to get rid of the DOE and get back to local control of all schooling and eliminate the cultural Marxist’s curricula which is trying to destroy Natural Law and turn humans into some perverted Brave New World where boys are girls are whatever.
“That behavior was glorified in Greece,”
At the end of the civilization.
No. You are entirely wrong....Restrictions on sex was only placed by the Jews early on and later by the Stoics and Christians. Pederasty was normal in Greece from early on and so was homosexuality...as was killing babies. Women were never equals of men—they were just breeders, but even they could ask the husband for permission to make babies with other handsome men. Of course, the husbands were the masters and decided.
Boys were men’s sexual recreation —Just like in today’s Afghanistan—women were not bothered much. In fact, later in Greece they had to make laws which encouraged men forming bonds with women so they would produce children.
I don't think there's anything to prepare a heterosexual youth to be extremely sexually harassed by a cross dressing homosexual who is protected and encouraged by the vice principal in all his actions.
The kid finally popped and it cost a life. The school is at fault for encouraging the cross dresser's obvious mental disorder and protecting him from the consequences of his actions. In doing so, he pushed another child beyond his ability to cope with the situation.
Scum? I don't know that, but I'd be hard pressed not to be violent towards any homosexual who sexually harassed my children. It is a deeply perverted and sick behavior that simply doesn't compute within the realms of sanity.
Pinging those involved on this thread to this discussion, Rush talked about it today, apparently. The principal (or perhaps the VP, can’t remember) is an open female homosexual and actively promotes the homosexual agenda in this school, as administrators do in schools all over the country. Also, I don’t think Rush mentioned it, at least not in what was posted in the link below, the kid who killed Larry King had been abused when he was young; not sure if sexual abuse or what kind, but he had his own bad history.
The bottom line is this would never, ever have happened if the school authorities were not pushing the evil, disgusting and sick homosexual agenda.
Pushing an Agenda: Larry King is Dead After School Ignores Mother’s Plea
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | November 22, 2011 | Rush Limbaugh
Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:51:59 PM by Kaslin
BEGIN TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: From the Los Angeles Times: “A teenager who fatally shot a gay classmate in the back of the head during an Oxnard middle school computer lab will spend 21 years in prison under a plea deal reached Monday, closing the books on a case that drew international headlines and ignited debate on how schools should handle sexual identity issues.
“Brandon McInerney, who was 14 when he pulled a gun out of his backpack and shot Larry King two times at point-blank range, will be kept behind bars until he is 38 under the terms of the deal struck by Ventura County prosecutors. In an unusual arrangement, the 17-year-old pleaded guilty to second-degree and voluntary manslaughter. In return, prosecutors agreed not to go forward with a second trial, which could have resulted in a life sentence.” Okay, so what happened here? “The family of the victim, Larry King, broke their silence on the case outside court Monday, saying that they supported the sentence but believed school officials hold deep responsibility for what happened.
(More at the link)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2811087/posts?page=9
“The bottom line is this would never, ever have happened if the school authorities were not pushing the evil, disgusting and sick homosexual agenda.”
No, the bottom line is that Brandon McInerney is a cold blooded killer who decided one morning that he was going to murder King and slipped his gun into his backpack. He then walked up to King and pulled the trigger multiple times.
Brandon McInerney is a killer and is getting off easy with only 21 years in prison.
“Men should not have to tolerate being sexually harassed by mentally ill flaming perverts and their reaction of violence (verbal or physical) towards homosexual harassers is a normal response. Sexual harassment is sexual dominance.”
And women should not have to sexually harassed by other women.
And men should not have to be sexually harassed by women.
And women should have have to be sexually harassed by men.
However, sexual harassment should not result in homicide.
And when it does, the person who did the killing goes to prison for a very long time.
A school whose adminstration forces students to tolerate mentally ill sex perverts aggressivly groping and harrassing them is at fault. Of course, the 14 year old boy is at fault - but the adults who were supposedly supervising and in loco parentis of all the children at school share a great deal of blame.
You, as usual, are a nasty little burr who purposely ignores truth and reality and serves no purpose on FR other than to try to rile up conservatives by your aggressive and deceitful tactics.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.