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ACLU: Occupy MN has right to unrestricted use of public property and free electricity, too
Hot Air ^ | November 22,2011 | ED MORRISSEY

Posted on 11/22/2011 7:26:40 AM PST by Hojczyk

The American Civil Liberties Union of Minnesota sued Hennepin County on Monday on behalf of OccupyMPLS, the protest group camping out on the Government Center Plaza in downtown Minneapolis in defiance of county rules.

The ACLU suit contends that those rules, which forbid tents and electricity, and “certain unwritten procedures enforced by the county” violate the demonstrators’ free speech rights. …

The suit asks that new rules restricting the use of chalk, electricity and tents be declared unconstitutional. The plaintiffs are also seeking an injunction against the rules, and they want the county to provide electricity for the protesters. It also asks that officials stop giving trespass notices to protesters who build temporary shelters or use chalk to express their views.

The county has said the plaza is not designed for long-term occupation and that the restrictions adopted earlier this month are needed because of health and safety concerns and increased security costs.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: 99percentlie; aclu; democrats; free; liberal; liberalfascism; mn; moochers; mpls; occufascists; occunazis; occupy; ows; owsisajoke; progressives

1 posted on 11/22/2011 7:26:44 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

unbelievable.

look forward to a permanent communist uprising in the u.s.

george w bush hid from the media because of code pink,

but the new gop president will face much worse.


2 posted on 11/22/2011 7:28:25 AM PST by ken21
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To: Hojczyk

They should fire hose the place after the temperature hits 10 Degrees F. That should clear it out.


3 posted on 11/22/2011 7:30:04 AM PST by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- Twitter @KingCorey_Com)
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To: Hojczyk

I consider the ACLU to be the enemy.

And will treat it accordingly come CW-II.


4 posted on 11/22/2011 7:30:04 AM PST by Da Coyote (Liberalism - when you absolutely, positively have no ability to produce wealth.)
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To: ken21

By now, they have to know what kind of evil communism brings about, so I can only assume that they are inherently evil to begin with...


5 posted on 11/22/2011 7:30:53 AM PST by Califreak (It was the best of times, it was the worst of times)
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To: Hojczyk

won’t be long before RT Rybak wants to one-up the mayor of L.A. and rent them city hall for a dollar.


6 posted on 11/22/2011 7:30:53 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: Da Coyote

“I consider the ACLU to be the enemy.”

As well you should.

They were founded by communists, and have since their founding simply been another communist front group.


7 posted on 11/22/2011 7:31:22 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Hojczyk
So what do you think the chances are that the ACLU would come to my aid if I demanded the use of unrestricted free use of public space and free electricity, to put up a nativity scene?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

I want to FREELY excercise my religion, and I want FREE electricity to do it.

8 posted on 11/22/2011 7:34:13 AM PST by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: Hojczyk

What if they occupied the places of residence of the ACLU employees including the lawyers? I bet that’s Constitutional, too!


9 posted on 11/22/2011 7:35:09 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Hojczyk
I am occupying my house so I want free electricity, too.
10 posted on 11/22/2011 7:35:29 AM PST by JPG (The loons at OWS will soon be at each others throats.)
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To: Hojczyk

Does the ACLU have the same sentiments about the Tea Party? I bet not.


11 posted on 11/22/2011 7:36:14 AM PST by NRA1995 (Obama's presidency is shovel-ready; let's bury it in 2012!)
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To: Hojczyk

I don’t recon it will take much more for the masses to rise up and put the ACLU out of business.


12 posted on 11/22/2011 7:37:07 AM PST by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: King_Corey

10 degrees in Mpls ?
When does that happen ?


13 posted on 11/22/2011 7:37:37 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: mountn man; Hojczyk
Now I know that the left would contend, that by the government doing what I suggested, that the government would then be establishing a religion.

So using the very same logic, if the government allows the occupiers free everything, in essence they are establishing the occupiers view point.

In essence making it the law of the land.

Now of course the argument would be that the government WOULD NOT be establishing it as law, just upholding their free excercise of speech.

Which brings us back to nativity scenes.

If in allowing free unobstructed use of government land and utilies is not an establishment of government on speech, but an upholding of freedom of excercise, then neither could it be an establishment of religion, but also a freedom of excercise.

14 posted on 11/22/2011 7:44:33 AM PST by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: Hojczyk

“Rights” are once again confused with “wants” and “needs”.

You have a right to make a contract with the owners of these commodities, which you may either want or need.

If you WANT something, that is altogether different from the situation where you may NEED something. Again, there is some confusion about these two terms. You may want to just take that item so easily available, with no intent or ability to give something in return, but then you would also need a good swift boot in the gluteus maximus to restore your manners.


15 posted on 11/22/2011 7:44:47 AM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: Hojczyk

—...rules, which forbid tents and electricity, and “certain unwritten procedures enforced by the county” violate the demonstrators’ free speech rights.—

I think the lack of a free PA also violates their free speech rights. The city should cough it up pronto.

Or they could say that they have the right to say anything they want, as the constitution says, but if they are cold they have to wear a coat, and if they want to put up a tent, they’ll have to do it elsewhere, where it is permitted.


16 posted on 11/22/2011 7:56:11 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: King_Corey

—They should fire hose the place after the temperature hits 10 Degrees F. That should clear it out.—
Aim it up about 60 degrees to give them a perpetual rain.


17 posted on 11/22/2011 7:57:08 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: NRA1995

“Does the ACLU have the same sentiments about the Tea Party? I bet not.”

That’s kind of what I’ve been wondering since I heard about the LA Occupy being rented office space for $1. If the mayor isn’t willing to do the same for any other group (or, the Tea Party), then isn’t that to be considered discrimination of some sort?


18 posted on 11/22/2011 7:57:24 AM PST by MNGal
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To: King_Corey

>>>They should fire hose the place after the temperature hits 10 Degrees F. That should clear it out.

That would encase them in ice until spring... all in all, not a bad idea.


19 posted on 11/22/2011 7:59:38 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Hojczyk

Everyone remember to send the ACLU a nice CHRISTMAS card this year:

ACLU
125 Broad Street
18th Floor
New York, NY 10004


20 posted on 11/22/2011 8:00:02 AM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
10 degrees in Mpls ?
When does that happen ?

I can get that high in August sometimes! :0)

21 posted on 11/22/2011 8:05:01 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: MNGal
That’s kind of what I’ve been wondering since I heard about the LA Occupy being rented office space for $1. If the mayor isn’t willing to do the same for any other group (or, the Tea Party), then isn’t that to be considered discrimination of some sort?

Richmond Tea Party Wants Refund from VA Capitol for Land that Occupy is Now Using for Free

22 posted on 11/22/2011 8:06:35 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: COBOL2Java
‘swhy after 16 years in the North Star, we took our Yankee money and moved south.
23 posted on 11/22/2011 8:13:29 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: JPG

The Minnesota Cold Weather Rule is in effect for utility companies, so if you wanted to, you could.


24 posted on 11/22/2011 8:20:34 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: Hojczyk
The ACLU us a communists bunch of anti-Americans that pretend they are for freedom. Bull Shi!
25 posted on 11/22/2011 8:28:19 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Having grown up in MN, it hits that about end of November and doesn’t really come up for air until LATE Spring early Summer. By then... Bumsicles!


26 posted on 11/22/2011 8:33:42 AM PST by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- Twitter @KingCorey_Com)
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To: ken21

If a Republican is elected that person will face a concerted insurgency run by the democrat party you will see violence against Republican supporters while the Republican party elites will refuse to hold the RAT party accountable for the violence .

The elites of the Republican party is to spineless & lazy to even defend the idea that you the individual are free & should remain free as opposed to being a slave of a socialist government.


27 posted on 11/22/2011 10:01:34 AM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Hojczyk

time, place and manner....all constitutional.

I bet they have no problem with the DNC protest zones which are out of sight out of mind during conventions.

The tea party is owed a refund big time.


28 posted on 11/22/2011 11:04:06 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Hojczyk
Zuccotti Park owners denied request for group to use park as protest against Ground Zero Mosque last year
29 posted on 11/22/2011 11:19:58 AM PST by opentalk
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To: Nebr FAL owner

My concern is that they hope to nullify the elderly vote by scaring enough of them into staying home.


30 posted on 11/22/2011 11:57:50 AM PST by ichabod1 (Vote for Rick "Adios Mofo" Perry, 2012!)
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To: Nebr FAL owner

I remember during the cold war, it was “you do not have constitutional rights in order to abolish constitutional rights.”

MSNBC does not have freedom of the press in order to abolish freedom of the press. They are the enemy.


31 posted on 11/22/2011 12:34:15 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Hojczyk

I hope someone sues the ACLU—(Anti-American Communist Leftist Union)

I’m waiting for the ACLU to offer the TEA Party the same free electricity, no permits, suspension of all laws deal...

waiting....

Waiting...

Still Waiting....


32 posted on 11/22/2011 1:47:15 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
“won’t be long before RT Rybak wants to one-up the mayor of L.A. and rent them city hall for a dollar.”

Let's hope that sect doesn't have any union or Soros money. They'll have trouble coming up with that amount....

33 posted on 11/22/2011 1:50:31 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: PATRIOT1876

The MN Sec. of State was helped into office with Soros cash.


34 posted on 11/22/2011 1:58:39 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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To: ichabod1

Not just convince people to stay home but to threaten & intimidate any who dare to disagree with them . this election season will be known for its blood shed I fear .

The pocket pistol,the stiletto , collapsible baton/sap will be handy items to have if you a Republican campaign volunteer/worker,this will be a election marked by Democrat party violence against Republicans.

meanwhile the elites of the GOP will refuse to to do anything beyond make half hearted complaints.


35 posted on 11/22/2011 2:00:54 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Hojczyk

Placemark.


36 posted on 11/22/2011 8:33:03 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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