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'New release' of climate emails
BBC News ^ | 11/22/11 | Richard Black

Posted on 11/22/2011 8:44:44 AM PST by goodnesswins

A computer hacking in Russia has lead to a release of more undermining info about "Climate."

Here's one tidbit: "Nations must invest $37 trillion in energy technologies by 2030 to stabilize greenhouse gas emissions at sustainable levels."

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; climateemails; climategate; climategate2; envirofascism; globalwarming; globalwarmingfraud; globalwarminghoax; greenfraud; ipcc; junkscience; mann; pervstate; russia; russiaclimateemails; sustainability; thecause; thegreenlie
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1 posted on 11/22/2011 8:44:46 AM PST by goodnesswins
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To: goodnesswins

MORE breaking info....here...

http://joannenova.com.au/2011/11/breaking-more-emails-released-climategate-ii/


2 posted on 11/22/2011 8:46:49 AM PST by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: goodnesswins
Michael Mann from Penn State University

Penn State?

What a coincidence!

3 posted on 11/22/2011 8:47:49 AM PST by capt. norm (Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves for they shall never run out of material. c)
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To: goodnesswins

My favorite so far..

Wilson:

any method that incorporates all forms of uncertainty and error will
undoubtedly result in reconstructions with wider error bars than we currently
have. These many be more honest, but may not be too helpful for model
comparison attribution studies. We need to be careful with the wording I think.


4 posted on 11/22/2011 8:48:07 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: goodnesswins

Watts has it up, too. Thanks for posting! :-)

I’ve sent your link to Drudge and hope he posts it.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/11/22/climategate-2-0/#more-51549


5 posted on 11/22/2011 8:48:24 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

THANKS


6 posted on 11/22/2011 8:49:33 AM PST by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: goodnesswins
Here's one tidbit: "Nations must invest $37 trillion in energy technologies by 2030 to stabilize greenhouse gas emissions at sustainable levels."

What they don't tell you is that it accomplishes that by crushing the world economy, while not producing one BTU of energy. You could get more energy from simply burning the dollar bills.

I'm on.
7 posted on 11/22/2011 8:53:24 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: capt. norm
Mann keeps referring to "the cause"

May this be the END of this FARCE!

8 posted on 11/22/2011 8:54:24 AM PST by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: goodnesswins

But all is fine as the fraudsters have all pardoned themselves already.


9 posted on 11/22/2011 8:54:35 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: goodnesswins; golux; SteamShovel; Bockscar; Thunder90; rdl6989; marvlus; Fractal Trader; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

10 posted on 11/22/2011 8:55:06 AM PST by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: goodnesswins

Climategate II bump.


11 posted on 11/22/2011 8:55:46 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: admin

Can we get this put in BREAKING NEWS? Please.


12 posted on 11/22/2011 8:58:21 AM PST by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: headstamp 2

Yes, absolutely, a PedoPennState internal investigation found NOTHING wrong - with either ‘using a trick to hide the decline’ or with a coach showering with young boys.


13 posted on 11/22/2011 8:58:57 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: goodnesswins

I remember it was about this time two years ago when the first batch was released.


14 posted on 11/22/2011 9:05:28 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: Bidimus1

IOW, to hell with honesty, we have an AGENDA to fulfill!..........


15 posted on 11/22/2011 9:06:11 AM PST by Red Badger (Every child should have a meadow to play in..............)
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To: goodnesswins
ALL of these people need to start disappearing around the world... where are those that are supposed to protect the world from this evil communist lie?

LLS

16 posted on 11/22/2011 9:06:21 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: goodnesswins
Here's some "interesting" email excerpts.....kinda what we all thought....

<4141> Minns/Tyndall Centre:

In my experience, global warming freezing is already a bit of a public relations problem with the media

Kjellen:

I agree with Nick that climate change might be a better labelling than global warming

17 posted on 11/22/2011 9:06:25 AM PST by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: goodnesswins

Shukla/IGES:

[”Future of the IPCC”, 2008] It is inconceivable that policymakers will be
willing to make billion-and trillion-dollar decisions for adaptation to the
projected regional climate change based on models that do not even describe and
simulate the processes that are the building blocks of climate variability.

If this is Shukla

Jagadish Shukla

Titles: President, Institute of Global Environment and Society
University Professor, Climate Dynamics, George Mason University

very very interesting


18 posted on 11/22/2011 9:06:27 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: goodnesswins

LYING, LIARS telling MORE LIES.

No wonder EU is going broke spending money on the AGW MYTH.


19 posted on 11/22/2011 9:07:39 AM PST by marty60
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

YES....there is an important “climate” meeting taking place I think in the next month....THIS throws everything into mayhem for THAT! Yippeee.....the OVERLORDS will have a hard time explaining this away.


20 posted on 11/22/2011 9:08:01 AM PST by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: goodnesswins

Bookmark bump.


21 posted on 11/22/2011 9:09:09 AM PST by FourtySeven (When does the race card run out of credit?)
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To: Red Badger

“[FOI, temperature data]
Any work we have done in the past is done on the back of the research grants we get – and has to be well hidden. I’ve discussed this with the main funder (US
Dept of Energy) in the past and they are happy about not releasing the original
station data.”

Kill the DoE!


22 posted on 11/22/2011 9:10:18 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: goodnesswins

I still have the zip files saved on my old computer from the old doc dump. Hehe! I’ll never forget that morning.


23 posted on 11/22/2011 9:10:34 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: goodnesswins; Sidebar Moderator
Can we get this put in BREAKING NEWS? Please.

Seconded. With all due respect to the mighty mods.

24 posted on 11/22/2011 9:12:33 AM PST by FourtySeven (When does the race card run out of credit?)
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To: marty60

It’s isn’t JUST the EU spending huge amounts of money....it’s EVERYWHERE!


25 posted on 11/22/2011 9:14:16 AM PST by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: goodnesswins

bttt


26 posted on 11/22/2011 9:14:30 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("One party will generally represent the envied, the other the envious. Guess which ones." ~GagdadBob)
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To: goodnesswins
Oh, happy day.
I celebrate the release of the Hadley emails every year. I think it should be a national holiday.
27 posted on 11/22/2011 9:16:06 AM PST by Excellence ( CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Bidimus1
I like this one,

Wils: What if climate change appears to be just mainly a multidecadal natural fluctuation? They’ll kill us probably [...]

28 posted on 11/22/2011 9:19:28 AM PST by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

My colleague has been trying to get the zip files for this dump....impossible....


29 posted on 11/22/2011 9:28:37 AM PST by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: steelyourfaith; Ernest_at_the_Beach

1521. (11-0043)

Elimination of Environmental Protection Laws and Agencies. Initiative Constitutional Amendment and Statute.

Summary Date: 11/21/11 | Circulation Deadline: 04/19/12 | Signatures Required: 807,615

Proponent: Oscar Alejandro Braun

Repeals the California Environmental Quality Act, California Coastal Act, California Endangered Species Act, California Global Warming Solutions Act, and California Sustainable Communities and Climate Protection Act. Abolishes the California Environmental Protection Agency and Air Resources Board. Establishes new inalienable rights to produce, distribute, use, and consume air, carbon dioxide, water, food, habitat for humanity, universal heal thyself care, and energy generating natural resources. Grants Californians the individual right to nullify all federal powers not specifically delegated to the United States by the federal constitution. Fiscal Impact: It is the opinion of the Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance that the measure likely would result in a substantial net change in state or local finances if adopted. (11-0043) (Full Text

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/ballot-measures/cleared-for-circulation.htm#1521


30 posted on 11/22/2011 9:29:54 AM PST by twistedwrench
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To: MAexile

Only 1 question.

What happens if this grand plan cools the earth too much? How do they propose to reverse it?


31 posted on 11/22/2011 9:30:09 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: goodnesswins

I’m searching in the comments section of these blogs. Earlier someone said they had gone poof....but hopefully someone mirrored it.

http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2011/11/22/breaking-news-foia-2011-has-arrived/

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/11/22/climategate-2-0/#more-51549


32 posted on 11/22/2011 9:32:00 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: MAexile

I don’t have the time to expand on it,
but it would be interesting to lay out the scenario of the lie of global warming (without specifying it),
the impact that the lie has had, and would have if the “remediation measures” were implemented,

then ask “what punishment should such a group or person get for perpetuating a hoax of this magnitude?”


33 posted on 11/22/2011 9:32:49 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: goodnesswins

Hey Black. If you think re-arranging the deck chairs on the titanic is going to solve the epic collaspe of the AGW/IPCC fraud, you and the rest of the socialist democrat frauds are badly mistaken. If you take your head out of your leftist rear end for a minute you would see clearly that the only way your AGW/CO2 scam could work was by COOKING THE BOOKS. Hello Climategate. If fact, there has not been one assertion made by the AGW/IPCC CO2 fraudsters that has not been torn to shreds when given the slightest scrutiny. Including the lastest Berkeley report, and the three phoney hearings you try and hang your socialist hat on.


34 posted on 11/22/2011 9:33:26 AM PST by spawn44 (fi)
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To: capt. norm

Penn State... always trying to screw the little guy...


35 posted on 11/22/2011 9:33:46 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: goodnesswins

I’d love for these to be proven real. But I looked at them and they’re just too good to be true. Gosh, could they have been stupid enough to have written so many absolutely damning emails?


36 posted on 11/22/2011 9:35:32 AM PST by JewishRighter ( Multiculturalism is killing us.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
What happens if this grand plan cools the earth too much?

Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven wrote a novel exploring this very idea (i.e. what if the enviros got everything they wanted?). The novel is called Fallen Angels, and is available online for free.

37 posted on 11/22/2011 9:42:28 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Never mind.)
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To: goodnesswins

38 posted on 11/22/2011 9:44:15 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: goodnesswins

Have you tried this one? (PLEASE CHECK FOR MALWARE AND VIRUSES FIRST!!!!)

http://files.sinwt.ru/download.php?file=25FOIA2011.zip


39 posted on 11/22/2011 9:46:52 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: JewishRighter

Yes, I know....however...these are government lackey’s....they think they are protected.


40 posted on 11/22/2011 9:47:13 AM PST by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

I am a huge Pournelle fan. His day book (he *hates* the word blog, though he arguably had the first one) is required reading. FR, Pournelle, and Yon are the only places I voluntarily send money for news / analysis.


41 posted on 11/22/2011 9:48:48 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Bad link here. If you guys find a good one, place ping me, and likewise.


42 posted on 11/22/2011 9:49:33 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Correction - please ping me


43 posted on 11/22/2011 9:50:32 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: goodnesswins

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/nov/22/fresh-hacked-climate-science-emails


44 posted on 11/22/2011 9:51:04 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: goodnesswins

BTTT.


45 posted on 11/22/2011 9:51:41 AM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: capt. norm

Yes...and Penn State’s “internal” investigation found no coverup and nothing wrong with his work. So much for the self-policing at Penn State. As if they needed another example. Circle the wagons.


46 posted on 11/22/2011 9:52:22 AM PST by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: FreedomPoster

Try this one. Again.....CHECK FOR MALWARE AND VIRUSES.

https://remote.utorrent.com/send?btih=EBD36AFC51AFEF4486028C1940739E6112964629&dn=FOIA2011.zip&message=&sid=e0c7873&cid=6592169267

Sorry, I don’t have the capability at the mo.

I’ll keep searching for Torrents.


47 posted on 11/22/2011 9:55:18 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

And another: (CHECK FOR VIRUSES and MALWARE) *sorry to keep posting that. I just want folks to be safe before clicking links..*

https://www.filesanywhere.com/fs/v.aspx?v=8a6e638f5f62757d6b9b


48 posted on 11/22/2011 9:58:55 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: JewishRighter

UPDATE3: 9:25 AM PST – Having read a number of emails, and seeing this quote from Mike Mann in the Guardian:

When asked if they were genuine, he said: “Well, they look like mine but I hardly see anything that appears damning at all, despite them having been taken out of context. I guess they had very little left to work with, having culled in the first round the emails that could most easily be taken out of context to try to make me look bad.”

Spin Cycle set on FULL


49 posted on 11/22/2011 10:05:06 AM PST by Bidimus1
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

That one downloaded. It checked out OK with both MSE and AntiMalwareBytes. I’m unzipping it now.


50 posted on 11/22/2011 10:06:49 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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