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New Newt, old Newt, same Newt?
LA Times ^ | 11-18-11

Posted on 11/22/2011 9:09:03 AM PST by MNJohnnie

In his Nov. 17 Op-Ed column, Doyle McManus draws attention to Newt Gingrich's comeback and compares it with Richard Nixon's makeover in 1968. To that end, McManus offers a side-by-side comparison of the two Newts:

Old Newt -- Angry Newt, the one who entered the presidential campaign last spring -- talked in apocalyptic terms about threats to American culture. Old Newt wrote about "a secular-socialist machine" led by the Democratic Party that "represents as great a threat to America as Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union once did."

"If we do not decisively win the struggle over the nature of America," he warned, the U.S. could soon become "a secular atheist country, potentially one dominated by radical Islamists."

And the revised version:

New Newt -- Presidential Newt -- talks about fiscal challenges more than cultural threats and says they don't look that scary. "There are ways to solve this," he told voters in Iowa this week. The economy can be fixed, he said, simply by allowing more oil and gas drilling, reducing fraud in federal programs and "putting people back to work."

The change is not complete. Gingrich still slips back into his past ways, as people do. Regardless, is this change sustainable? McManus wonders:

Can New Newt keep Old Newt at bay for long? It's one thing to focus on fiscal issues instead of cultural warfare; that's just a matter of emphasis. The greater challenge for Gingrich is maintaining his changed temperament after years of delighting in unconventional ideas and unrestrained polemic.

(Excerpt) Read more at opinion.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; elections; newt
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To: MNJohnnie

New Newt: Lipstick on a pig.


21 posted on 11/22/2011 9:38:16 AM PST by Retro Llama
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To: editor-surveyor
God help us if that jerk should get the nomination.

Yep. A Newt candidacy would end in the biggest GOP fiasco since 1964.

22 posted on 11/22/2011 9:39:18 AM PST by Retro Llama
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To: MNJohnnie
Newt's Achilles Heel has always been his mouth.

And his penis.

We all are waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Better than then his pants... Again.
23 posted on 11/22/2011 9:39:22 AM PST by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: editor-surveyor
When Noot was speaker, he was the “secular-socialist machine.”

"A co-author and architect of Contract with America, Gingrich was in the forefront of Republican Party success in the 1994 Congressional election.

In 1995, Time magazine named him "Man of the Year" for his role in ending 40 years of majority rule by the Democratic Party.

During his four years as House speaker, Gingrich sometimes opposed President Bill Clinton but he also worked closely with Clinton, in 1996, to limit public welfare, and, in 1997, to pass a capital gains tax cut and, in 1998, to pass the first balanced budget since 1969."

Yep. Big Government guy all the way. Facts are stubborn, aren't they?

24 posted on 11/22/2011 9:40:30 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: editor-surveyor

I am very disappointed to read such a lie coming from you.


25 posted on 11/22/2011 9:42:14 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Nice...don’t respond. Doyle McManless is the biggest socialist hack on the LA TIMES. And you morons are quoting him like he’s Goood.

What happened to the old saying “they are only shooting him because he’s over the target?”

Double talking weasels.


26 posted on 11/22/2011 9:43:04 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: MNJohnnie

Has your buddy BoingBoing got the day off, so you have to post the hit pieces today?


27 posted on 11/22/2011 9:44:05 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MNJohnnie

It is obvious that the only GOP hopefuls that don’t scare the LSM are Huntsman and Romney.


28 posted on 11/22/2011 9:46:10 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: editor-surveyor

[ I think you meant “Go Postal” with Michele Bachmann. ]

No.. that would be “MEE”... I’m on the verge of going “Postal”..


29 posted on 11/22/2011 9:47:23 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: MNJohnnie

newt’s record is enough to remove him from consideration by conservatives.


30 posted on 11/22/2011 9:48:35 AM PST by ken21
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To: jessduntno
Only sitting speaker in history that was re-primed by the house and fined for ethics violation .
31 posted on 11/22/2011 9:55:19 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: org.whodat
"Only sitting speaker in history that was re-primed by the house and fined for ethics violation."

Democrats accused Gingrich of violating the agreement, but it was forwarded to the House for approval.

On January 21, 1997, the House voted 395 to 28 to reprimand Gingrich, including a $300,000 "cost assessment" to recoup money spent on the investigation. The full committee panel did not agree whether tax law had been violated.

In 1999, the IRS cleared the organizations connected with the courses.

32 posted on 11/22/2011 9:59:26 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: hosepipe; All
Sadly ... there are so many pressures on the politicians running for office, they all tell us what we want to hear. Like Obama what they say and what they do is two very different things. ‘Changing circumstances’, they will answer when queried about their divergence from their campaign promises.

Which one of the potential candidates comes out of this run for President for the Republican party, will then face Obama. He is an excellent speaker, and the liberals do not waver, they support their guy no matter what. It is a firm line that ignores reality to hold on to power.

God help us. Our guys/gals being usually good guys/gals, play nice and compromise continually.

It is a dilemma that repeats and repeats ...

Scares me, we are at the brink of catastrophe. Indeed.

33 posted on 11/22/2011 10:05:07 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: org.whodat

Assuming you meant to say reprimanded, it was ruled moot by the IRS after the fact, when they found there was no cause.

But you already knew that.


34 posted on 11/22/2011 10:11:56 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: jessduntno

Was it the new Newt or the old Newt...

... on the couch with Nancy
... endorsed Dede Scozzafava
... called an attempt to cut spending “Right wing social engineering”
...


35 posted on 11/22/2011 10:20:32 AM PST by Ingtar
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To: jessduntno
The irs has no power to change the vote of the house nor can they reverse it. The irs has nothing to do with the vote . The house vote stands.
36 posted on 11/22/2011 10:22:13 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: jessduntno
But it was funny that you think the IRS can make moot a house vote. What page in the constitution is that on.
37 posted on 11/22/2011 10:24:26 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: skeeter

If it turns out to be Newt vs Obama, sure I’ll vote for Newt.

If we don’t get a true conservative candidate like Cain, Bachmann, Santorum, or even Perry (anyone who touts succession can’t be all bad); we have to make sure we elect Tea Party conservatives by the score to Congress.

The Democrat Senate voted 100& for Obamacare -voting party over country. Not one democrat senator exercised his or her conscience. It was a shameful travesty and unprecedented power grab.

I don’t see our guys ever being that blind, but it never hurts to stock up on ammunition and make the Tea Party wing of the republican party as strong as possible.

It’s easy to convince a democrat to vote himself more power. It’s a different game when one’s core conviction has to be turned.

We have to elect enough principled conservatives so that the leadership cannot form a coalition of democrat and republican moderates to outflank us. It is that simple.

If we wind up with a Newt or Romney or, God-forbid, Obama again, we have to hold the House stronger than ever.


38 posted on 11/22/2011 10:27:10 AM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: A'elian' nation

ooops my bad I meant secession. lol


39 posted on 11/22/2011 10:30:05 AM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: MNJohnnie

Newt is Newt, and what you see doesn’t mean you won’t see something different as opportunities arise and political winds blow.


40 posted on 11/22/2011 10:31:14 AM PST by pallis
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