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Baseball contract limits tobacco use
Associated Press ^ | 11/22/2011 | Associated Press

Posted on 11/22/2011 11:02:34 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

WASHINGTON — Baseball's new labor deal will limit the use of smokeless tobacco by players, but not ban it during games, as some public health groups had sought.

A baseball union summary obtained by The Associated Press says that players have agreed not to carry tobacco cans in their back pockets or use tobacco during pregame or postgame interviews and at team functions.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baseball; tobacco
Don't ban it. Just ban the spitting of it.
1 posted on 11/22/2011 11:02:41 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m not sure this is even much of an issue anymore. All the players I see on TV seem to be chewing gum or sunflower seeds.


2 posted on 11/22/2011 11:06:14 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Responsibility2nd
F the busy body controlling commies.

Land of the free my azz.

And I spit on anyone who proposes banning spitting it..got it?

3 posted on 11/22/2011 11:06:57 AM PST by Post5203 (Our political class have sullied a good man's name...Washington)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Real ball players chew Red Man anyway. I never could keep track of that cricket $hit they put in lil cans.
4 posted on 11/22/2011 11:10:56 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Pussies.


5 posted on 11/22/2011 11:17:53 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Post5203

Actually, in this case the commies (union) are resisting this change, while the capitalists(owners) are seeking it.


6 posted on 11/22/2011 11:32:54 AM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Not only am I a p*ssy; I absolutely demand that everyone else on Planet Earth become a p*ssy, just like me. And if they don’t, I’m gonna stamp my widdle feet!”


7 posted on 11/22/2011 11:45:52 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Post5203

They could be real men and swallow it instead.


8 posted on 11/22/2011 12:11:31 PM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: Huck

Actually in MLB’s case, the union are the free marketeers while the owners want a socialist system.


9 posted on 11/22/2011 12:16:33 PM PST by gusty
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To: Huck

Actually in MLB’s case, the union are the free marketeers while the owners want a socialist system.


10 posted on 11/22/2011 12:16:33 PM PST by gusty
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To: gusty

It’s not socialism, that’s a way too simplistic view


11 posted on 11/22/2011 12:18:35 PM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

What do you call the New York Yankees, a very succesful organization both on and off the field, having to pay millions to the Pittsburgh Pirates because the Yankees want to put a good product on the field for their fans, and the Pirates do not.


12 posted on 11/22/2011 12:23:18 PM PST by gusty
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To: gusty

How so?


13 posted on 11/22/2011 12:23:18 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: gusty

That’s what you do to try to have a competitive league when your player’s union won’t allow a salary cap.


14 posted on 11/22/2011 12:26:22 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: Huck

All the MLBPA wants is for their members to be allowed to negotiate their terms of employment with any employer they want. The owners do not want this. The owners want to regulate the free market for labor in their industry. Once a player’s employment contract has expired, their should be no restriction on whom he wants to play for, for whatever reason.


15 posted on 11/22/2011 12:29:40 PM PST by gusty
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To: gusty

Professional sports leagues, from the owners point, aren’t laundromats. If you own a laundromat, your better off when the competition closes. Except for the (sadly hypothetical) case of contraction, a sports league is healthier without it’s worst teams have to suffer in the dredges. It’s a bigger picture thing.


16 posted on 11/22/2011 12:30:51 PM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Huck

I rest my case. A salary cap is Socialism. If you have been paying attention, the Left wants to impose a salary cap on all of us.


17 posted on 11/22/2011 12:32:39 PM PST by gusty
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To: gusty
The owners want to regulate the free market for labor in their industry.

It's not a free market. It's a league. And it depends on being competitive. Therefore, it is perfectly reasonable for them to set salary caps, as other sports do. It's no different than having rules for what kind of car a NASCAR driver can drive.

18 posted on 11/22/2011 12:33:10 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: gusty

lol. Go ahead and rest. You sound like you need it.


19 posted on 11/22/2011 12:33:45 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

What your saying is, is that the Pirates and the Royals are too big to fail.


20 posted on 11/22/2011 12:34:09 PM PST by gusty
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To: gusty

Culling the herd a little bit sure wouldn’t hurt; but it’s more like a team too big makes the league fail.


21 posted on 11/22/2011 12:37:02 PM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Huck

What I need is to believe that I’m not in the minority. That is someone who actually believes in Capitalism. I’m cynical, I think must people do not believe in the free market, even so called Conservatives, and I’m not talking about RINO’s. So I will go rest after a dip of Long Cut Wintergreen.


22 posted on 11/22/2011 12:37:50 PM PST by gusty
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To: Huck

Except the Pirates take the money and don’t use it to improve the team. They were caught doing this and ole Bud sort of ducked the issue.


23 posted on 11/22/2011 12:45:24 PM PST by JimC214
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To: gusty

I believe in capitalism. I think the MLB owners should crush the players union.


24 posted on 11/22/2011 1:00:38 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: Huck

You might think you do. Reminds me of those Tea Party Members who want smaller government, but don’t touch their Medicare and Social Security.


25 posted on 11/22/2011 1:04:23 PM PST by gusty
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To: gusty
Reminds me of those Tea Party Members who want smaller government, but don’t touch their Medicare and Social Security.

I agree. No one wants their own ox getting gored. What that has to do with the player's union not letting owners set reasonable wages is beyond me.

26 posted on 11/22/2011 1:09:38 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: JimC214
Except the Pirates take the money and don’t use it to improve the team. They were caught doing this and ole Bud sort of ducked the issue.

Which is why a salary cap is a better solution. Don't all the other major sports have a cap?

27 posted on 11/22/2011 1:44:22 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The sound you hear is Nellie Fox rolling over in his grave.


28 posted on 11/22/2011 1:45:31 PM PST by shortstop (It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful)
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To: Huck

I believe you are correct.


29 posted on 11/22/2011 2:10:46 PM PST by JimC214
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To: JimC214

IMO, the owners should have broken the players’ union back in 94. Sooner or later, they’d have come back. What else are they going to do?


30 posted on 11/22/2011 2:13:32 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: Huck

God bless ya for getting it


31 posted on 11/22/2011 4:19:45 PM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Huck
I have been away awhile, but here it goes. The players union is not preventing the owners from setting wages now. They never have. Each owner is free to offer a player as little as they want. However other owners can offer more. The owners compete with the each other for talent. Just like some companies compete for good engineers. I understand the emotional arguments that pertain to sports, but in the end it is business, nothing personal. I find it ironic that in the true land of Socialism, Europe, professional sports is structured in a more Capitalist way than here in the USA.
32 posted on 11/22/2011 6:52:18 PM PST by gusty
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To: gusty
Just like some companies compete for good engineers.

Wrong. Competing companies aren't in a league. They are separate businesses. Baseball franchises are just that--franchises. They belong to a league. MLB is the business. The teams are sub-sets of that business. Therefore MLB should set a salary cap if they want--just like their more successful competitors (NBA, NFL) have done.

33 posted on 11/22/2011 7:03:02 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: Huck

It’s naive of people to think that the Yankees are competing financially with the Twins. Dudes need to get a clue and understand that they are both competing with the NFL, and with the movies, and Disneyland. That’s the true picture


34 posted on 11/22/2011 8:28:01 PM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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