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Cain slammed by influential group of Iowa conservatives
The Hill ^ | 11-22-2011 | Cameron Joseph

Posted on 11/22/2011 2:35:22 PM PST by smoothsailing

Cain slammed by influential group of Iowa conservatives

Cameron Joseph

November 22, 2011

A top organization of Iowa social conservatives slammed Herman Cain as it narrowed its list for a possible presidential endorsement list.

Cain and Ron Paul were dropped from The Family Leader's consideration, leaving Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann as the possible winners. Mitt Romney did not seek the group's endorsement.

Headed by the influential activist Bob Vander Plaats, the group criticized Cain, saying he lacked "clarity on the key issues of life, marriage, foreign policy, and presidential readiness" — a major diss to a candidate who has sought to garner support from social conservatives in the state.

Cain might have angered some in the group when he refused to sign an early version of their pledge because it said that African-American children were more likely to be born into two-parent households under slavery than they were today.

The group said they had concerns Paul's view of states' rights meant he did not oppose adequately enough abortion rights or gay marriage.

Romney has long drawn the ire of Vander Plaats, who ran former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee's (R) successful Iowa campaign in the 2008 presidential election, in which Romney was a top rival.

Whomever the group backs could get a major boost in Iowa — the organization's board is made up of most of the state's top social conservatives.

Evangelical Christians make up approximately 60 percent of GOP caucus-goers in the state, giving them an outsize influence on the process. All of the candidates looking to recreate the successful coalition that vaulted Huckabee to a win over Romney in 2008 would get a major boost from this group.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: cain; cain2012; feminazis; hermancain; iowa; knowsnato; stealthsocialist; taxinator; vanderplaats
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To: MasterGunner01

Whatever it takes to keep a visible public profile, that’s what they’ll do.


41 posted on 11/22/2011 4:27:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: katiedidit1

>> “Tea Party is edging towards Newt.” <<

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Flat out lie!

There is no TEA party org that is in any way ready to support the insider Newt.


42 posted on 11/22/2011 4:30:53 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: bondserv

Yeah......in words.....not in action?
How is Newt better with serial adultery?
Do action mean anything in their world?
Or is it just position papers?


43 posted on 11/22/2011 4:42:54 PM PST by federal__reserve (What matters in 2012 is jobs, jobs, jobs! Jobs kill unemployment, foreclosures & deficits)
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To: bondserv

Yeah......in words.....not in action?
How is Newt better with serial adultery?
Do actions mean anything in their world?
Or is it just position papers?


44 posted on 11/22/2011 4:43:11 PM PST by federal__reserve (What matters in 2012 is jobs, jobs, jobs! Jobs kill unemployment, foreclosures & deficits)
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To: bigdirty

This is getting old. She filed not him. She invited him to go over the papers while she was in the hospital. They are good friends to this day. It was and is family friendly.


45 posted on 11/22/2011 4:44:26 PM PST by W. W. SMITH (Obama is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: katiedidit1

Good defense of Newt.

I’m not all that upset about his marital woes, more upset about his will o the wisp political woes.

I’ll be painfully honest. I can’t stand Cain. I saw a repeat this morning on Cavuto showing how he continued to blame Perry for his woman problems. It was ugly and his voice makes me uneasy. Puleeeze don’t make me listen to a voice as bad as Obama’s for 4 years.


46 posted on 11/22/2011 4:51:38 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: editor-surveyor; katiedidit1

She’s using WND as her source. They’re pretty much the Raw Story or Truthout of the right. I’d trust Newsmax before I trust them. Besides there isn’t one autonomous Tea Party group. One person/group/website/questionable news source cannot speak for all, most or even some Tea Party groups.

Had the media’s attempt to destroy Cain worked he’d be much lower in the polls. He’s in the top 3 just about everywhere and in early voting STATE polls (which are the only ones that count during primary season) he’s still ahead. That may change but his lead has held steady for quite a while now despite attempts to take him down and in spite pundits (and plenty of people here) insistence that we need someone who’s “qualified” because they’ve been part of the political machine for a while.

Many more are looking for something different. After Reagan there hasn’t been a “professional” worth a tinker’s damn. Every one of us are “outsiders” and in spite of paying the bills and being in the majority the “professionals” ignore us except during election season. I want someone with common sense, patriotism and a plan. It doesn’t have to be specific (how can it be without seeing things from the inside...Cain’s honest enough to say that) and it doesn’t have to be engraved in stone (just a good starting point).

Sure a political novice could mess things up. But so could the so-called professionals. Given their track record, I’m ready for something completely different. Heck, every freeper here could do a better job than the people we’ve had since Reagan.

Cindie


47 posted on 11/22/2011 4:54:39 PM PST by gardencatz (I'm lucky enough to live, walk & breathe among heroes! I am the mother of a US Marine!)
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To: smoothsailing; All
I have no doubt that this represents Vander Plaats' honest opinion of Cain.

However, just as candidates should disclose when they receive money from activist groups, activist groups making endorsements should disclose contemporaneously that they, or their key cause, received money from a candidate.

From the Wall Street Journal:

Nowhere have Mr. Gingrich and his groups invested more heavily than in the key state of Iowa, figuring a win in February's first-in-the-nation caucuses could catapult him to the top ranks in the Republican nomination fight.

Wearing an array of organizational hats, he has met repeatedly with pastors, trained local candidates, consulted with doctors on his proposed health-care innovations and met with local refiners to tout ethanol.

After raising money through one of his groups, Mr. Gingrich funneled $150,000 in seed money to a successful campaign last fall to oust three Iowa Supreme Court judges who supported gay marriage.

"Newt's role was quiet and very low key, but it was pivotal," said Bob Vander Plaats, a well-known Iowa conservative who led the anti-judges campaign.

48 posted on 11/22/2011 5:44:23 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: colorado tanker
But lol, the story that Newt wrote a novel about a sex kitten is true!
49 posted on 11/22/2011 5:52:14 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: fightinJAG

Was that ever published? That’s really awful writing!


50 posted on 11/22/2011 6:08:52 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: fightinJAG
But drop Cain and keep Newt? What is that all about?

That was my question and you answered it!

After raising money through one of his groups, Mr. Gingrich funneled $150,000 in seed money to a successful campaign last fall to oust three Iowa Supreme Court judges who supported gay marriage.

"Newt's role was quiet and very low key, but it was pivotal," said Bob Vander Plaats, a well-known Iowa conservative who led the anti-judges campaign.

51 posted on 11/22/2011 6:09:47 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: colorado tanker

Isn’t it, though. Cringeworthy and adolescent. Yikes.

I don’t know that it was published, though it was set to be when the MS apparently leaked and became the object, as the article said, of giggles on the net. I lived through the Newt the First years and that was just one of the more humorous tidbits I remember shaking my head over.

And, now, I’m sorry. It’s hard not to think of Callista as “Diana the Huntress,” or whatever. JUST KIDDING.


52 posted on 11/22/2011 9:53:04 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: smoothsailing
This was the Left's take on it (People for the American Way):

But will Gingrich’s financial influence, religious documentaries and appeals to prominent Religious Right figures translate to real support from activists who might be wary of backing a thrice-married adulterer? Fischer remains a skeptic, but Iowa’s Bob Vander Plaats, who coordinated the anti-judge campaign, is still grateful for Gingrich’s significant monetary aid.

53 posted on 11/22/2011 10:05:45 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: smoothsailing

I wonder how Mr. Vander Plaats feels about Gingrich this morning.


54 posted on 11/23/2011 6:19:07 AM PST by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: smoothsailing
But drop Cain and keep Newt? What is that all about?

Follow the money. Vander Plaats was bought and paid for by Newt.

55 posted on 11/23/2011 7:50:42 AM PST by Retro Llama
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To: SunkenCiv
Whatever it takes to keep a visible public profile, that's what they'll do.

They aren't even doing that right. Listing serial adulterer Newt as an acceptable "family values" candidate just makes them look like irrelevant laughingstocks.

56 posted on 11/23/2011 7:54:23 AM PST by Retro Llama
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To: fightinJAG
But lol, the story that Newt wrote a novel about a sex kitten is true!

Is that the one written by William Forstchen, with Newt Gingrich getting the highest word rate in history (a cut of the proceeds for contributing the three words "and", "Newt", and "Gingrich")?

57 posted on 11/23/2011 7:58:41 AM PST by Retro Llama
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To: federal__reserve

Relevant:

The Contract with America was a document released by the United States Republican Party during the 1994 Congressional election campaign. Written by Larry Hunter, who was aided by Newt Gingrich, Robert Walker, Richard Armey, Bill Paxon, Tom DeLay, John Boehner and Jim Nussle...

REPUBLICAN CONTRACT WITH AMERICA

As Republican Members of the House of Representatives and as citizens seeking to join that body we propose not just to change its policies, but even more important, to restore the bonds of trust between the people and their elected representatives.
That is why, in this era of official evasion and posturing, we offer instead a detailed agenda for national renewal, a written commitment with no fine print.

This year’s election offers the chance, after four decades of one-party control, to bring to the House a new majority that will transform the way Congress works. That historic change would be the end of government that is too big, too intrusive, and too easy with the public’s money. It can be the beginning of a Congress that respects the values and shares the faith of the American family.

Like Lincoln, our first Republican president, we intend to act “with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right.” To restore accountability to Congress. To end its cycle of scandal and disgrace. To make us all proud again of the way free people govern themselves.

On the first day of the 104th Congress, the new Republican majority will immediately pass the following major reforms, aimed at restoring the faith and trust of the American people in their government:

FIRST, require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply equally to the Congress;
SECOND, select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;
THIRD, cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;
FOURTH, limit the terms of all committee chairs;
FIFTH, ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;
SIXTH, require committee meetings to be open to the public;
SEVENTH, require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;
EIGHTH, guarantee an honest accounting of our Federal Budget by implementing zero base-line budgeting.
Thereafter, within the first 100 days of the 104th Congress, we shall bring to the House Floor the following bills, each to be given full and open debate, each to be given a clear and fair vote and each to be immediately available this day for public inspection and scrutiny.

1. THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY ACT: A balanced budget/tax limitation amendment and a legislative line-item veto to restore fiscal responsibility to an out- of-control Congress, requiring them to live under the same budget constraints as families and businesses. (Bill Text) (Description)

2. THE TAKING BACK OUR STREETS ACT: An anti-crime package including stronger truth-in- sentencing, “good faith” exclusionary rule exemptions, effective death penalty provisions, and cuts in social spending from this summer’s “crime” bill to fund prison construction and additional law enforcement to keep people secure in their neighborhoods and kids safe in their schools. (Bill Text) (Description)

3. THE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY ACT: Discourage illegitimacy and teen pregnancy by prohibiting welfare to minor mothers and denying increased AFDC for additional children while on welfare, cut spending for welfare programs, and enact a tough two-years-and-out provision with work requirements to promote individual responsibility. (Bill Text) (Description)

4. THE FAMILY REINFORCEMENT ACT: Child support enforcement, tax incentives for adoption, strengthening rights of parents in their children’s education, stronger child pornography laws, and an elderly dependent care tax credit to reinforce the central role of families in American society. (Bill Text) (Description)

5. THE AMERICAN DREAM RESTORATION ACT: A S500 per child tax credit, begin repeal of the marriage tax penalty, and creation of American Dream Savings Accounts to provide middle class tax relief. (Bill Text) (Description)

6. THE NATIONAL SECURITY RESTORATION ACT: No U.S. troops under U.N. command and restoration of the essential parts of our national security funding to strengthen our national defense and maintain our credibility around the world. (Bill Text) (Description)

7. THE SENIOR CITIZENS FAIRNESS ACT: Raise the Social Security earnings limit which currently forces seniors out of the work force, repeal the 1993 tax hikes on Social Security benefits and provide tax incentives for private long-term care insurance to let Older Americans keep more of what they have earned over the years. (Bill Text) (Description)

8. THE JOB CREATION AND WAGE ENHANCEMENT ACT: Small business incentives, capital gains cut and indexation, neutral cost recovery, risk assessment/cost-benefit analysis, strengthening the Regulatory Flexibility Act and unfunded mandate reform to create jobs and raise worker wages. (Bill Text) (Description)

9. THE COMMON SENSE LEGAL REFORM ACT: “Loser pays” laws, reasonable limits on punitive damages and reform of product liability laws to stem the endless tide of litigation. (Bill Text) (Description)

10. THE CITIZEN LEGISLATURE ACT: A first-ever vote on term limits to replace career politicians with citizen legislators. (Description)

Further, we will instruct the House Budget Committee to report to the floor and we will work to enact additional budget savings, beyond the budget cuts specifically included in the legislation described above, to ensure that the Federal budget deficit will be less than it would have been without the enactment of these bills.

Respecting the judgment of our fellow citizens as we seek their mandate for reform, we hereby pledge our names to this Contract with America.

http://www.house.gov/house/Contract/CONTRACT.html


58 posted on 11/23/2011 10:31:43 AM PST by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. †)
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To: fightinJAG

I've got you now, Newty!

59 posted on 11/23/2011 11:14:06 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Retro Llama

As far as I know, William Forstchen and Gingrich are still constant collaborators.

And that’s what happens when you put your name on a work.


60 posted on 11/23/2011 12:03:05 PM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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