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Armed illegals stalked Border Patrol
The Washington Times ^ | Tuesday, November 22, 2011 | Jerry Seper

Posted on 11/22/2011 8:05:41 PM PST by granite

Edited on 11/22/2011 8:09:11 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Five illegal immigrants armed with at least two AK-47 semi-automatic assault rifles were hunting for U.S. Border Patrol agents near a desert watering hole known as Mesquite Seep just north of the Arizona-Mexico border when a firefight erupted and one U.S. agent was killed, records show.


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Mexicans were ‘patrolling’ when agent was slain, indictment says
1 posted on 11/22/2011 8:05:44 PM PST by granite
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To: granite

Bean bags.

God help us.


2 posted on 11/22/2011 8:08:35 PM PST by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: granite
All of the sudden "sharks with friggin lasers" sounds more logical.

Create a zone. Shoot first.
3 posted on 11/22/2011 8:08:38 PM PST by allmost
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To: Travis McGee; HiJinx; gubamyster; calcowgirl; Bokababe; DoughtyOne; stephenjohnbanker; mkjessup; ...
Five illegal immigrants armed with at least two AK-47 semi-automatic assault rifles were hunting for U.S. Border Patrol agents near a desert watering hole known as Mesquite Seep just north of the Arizona-Mexico border when a firefight erupted and one U.S. agent was killed, records show.

Why do we not have a heavily armed U.S. military presence on the border with Mexico?

4 posted on 11/22/2011 8:10:25 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: granite
...The FBI declined to comment.

Thank God the Washington Times is staying on this tragic story.

5 posted on 11/22/2011 8:11:46 PM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: granite

Lets hope they’re humane...


6 posted on 11/22/2011 8:12:54 PM PST by PAConservative1 (Myth, Ricardo, and AmNEWTsty - NON STARTERS!)
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To: PAConservative1
“I can’t feel my legs,” Terry told one of the agents who cradled him. “I think I’m paralyzed.”

Bleeding profusely, he died at the scene.

7 posted on 11/22/2011 8:14:14 PM PST by granite (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left - Ecclest 10:2)
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To: granite

There are Newt Gingrich supporters on the debate thread that would have us surrender to these thugs.


8 posted on 11/22/2011 8:15:22 PM PST by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: rabscuttle385

When Is The Impeachment?


9 posted on 11/22/2011 8:15:59 PM PST by granite (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left - Ecclest 10:2)
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To: granite

Your criticsms are all heartless and inhumane. /sarc


10 posted on 11/22/2011 8:16:06 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: All
In the Terry killing, two Romanian-built AK-47 assault rifles found at the scene were identified as having been purchased in a Glendale, Ariz., gun shop as part of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives’ (ATF) failed Fast and Furious investigation.

FUBO!!!

11 posted on 11/22/2011 8:17:15 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Grunthor

Yeah, Newt really stepped in it this time on the illegal alien issue. He is toast.


12 posted on 11/22/2011 8:17:41 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: granite
At least one of the Mexicans opened fire and, according to the affidavit,Terry, a 40-year-old former U.S. Marine, was shot in the back.
13 posted on 11/22/2011 8:17:58 PM PST by granite (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left - Ecclest 10:2)
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To: rabscuttle385

Because that would be lacking compassion and inhumane

Signed,

Both political parties


14 posted on 11/22/2011 8:18:36 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (There's nothing more hypocritical than a white liberal calling someone else a "bigot")
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To: granite
Bean bag rounds. Whoever was dumb enough to have those guys out there with bean bag rounds deserves to be fired. The sector chief there was swapped out after this happened, but it wasn't publicly announced as a result of this incident.

I wonder where in the BP use of force policy it says that a lethal threat is supposed to be met with less than lethal force? (I know it doesn't.)

The Mexicans are coming after our guys and because it doesn't work well with the political meme, of either party, they pretend it isn't happening. "As safe as it's ever been."

15 posted on 11/22/2011 8:23:01 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: granite

We fired beanbags at them? How heartless and inhumane!


16 posted on 11/22/2011 8:26:55 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: Grunthor
Newt Gingrich Falls Into The Immigrant Compassion Trap (VIDEO)
17 posted on 11/22/2011 8:28:40 PM PST by granite (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left - Ecclest 10:2)
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To: granite

9 - 9 - 9


18 posted on 11/22/2011 8:30:57 PM PST by traumer
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To: rabscuttle385
Why do we not have a heavily armed U.S. military presence on the border with Mexico?

Because el Presidente' Jorge W. Boosh did not think so after 9/11, si'?

Do I win prize now, senor' Rabscuttle? Do I win green card?
19 posted on 11/22/2011 8:33:59 PM PST by mkjessup (I stand with Herman Cain !!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks granite.
20 posted on 11/22/2011 8:34:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: mkjessup

FUGWB


21 posted on 11/22/2011 8:35:12 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: All

22 posted on 11/22/2011 8:35:47 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385
FUGWB

Senor Rabscuttle, that is no way to speak of our former el Presidente' who left no child behind and expanded ze Medicare, and especially kept the Iranian mullahs from developing a nuke weapon.

Oops. Ok, Senor, 2 out of 3 then.
23 posted on 11/22/2011 8:38:31 PM PST by mkjessup (I stand with Herman Cain !!)
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To: granite

But the Minute Men were the “radicals” way back when...


24 posted on 11/22/2011 8:41:51 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: granite
When Is The Impeachment?

I wish someone would start a petition drive for our RINO friends in the House.

Question - If the House introduced articles of Impeachment would Harry Reid HAVE TO convene the jury over there in the Senate or could he just ignore it like all the other House bills that are languishing in his desk drawer?
25 posted on 11/22/2011 8:45:44 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: SatinDoll
When did newt do this? I loathe the bushes and all the rats who contributed to this mess. Never again. I'll not vote for another scumbag who turns a blind eye to this mess.

Seal the borders. Deport the illegals.

26 posted on 11/22/2011 8:45:44 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul
"Deport the illegals."

Washington talks about how heartless it would be to deport the illegals but after WW1 WW2 and the Korean conflict that is exactly what they did they deported the illegals so that the returning service men would have jobs. If they put a $500 bounty on each and every illegal caught and sent back we would be way ahead of the game in what they cost us in education and health care. And the men coming back from Iraq would have steady work rounding them up.

27 posted on 11/22/2011 9:10:07 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: granite

SEETHING!!!!!


28 posted on 11/22/2011 9:18:48 PM PST by marty60
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To: granite

Well based on prior cases, throw those rascally border agents in prison, how dare they get in the way of those poor innocent armed illegals/sarc


29 posted on 11/22/2011 9:19:38 PM PST by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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To: granite

General Pershing, call your office. Our politicians are gutless. Prayers for the Terry family.


30 posted on 11/22/2011 9:45:44 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: granite
More of that FIIIIIINE North American Union that the US govt wants so desperately and most American's have never heard of.

That's the bottom of this particularly stinky barrel, the North American Union, whether WE THE PEOPLE want it or not, bet on it.

Why else would the govt be taking such pains as sending automatic weapons to the drug cartels if it's not to aid in erasing the border in as brutally efficient way as possible.

WE THE PEOPLE don't count worth a tinkers damn any more.

31 posted on 11/22/2011 9:45:50 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Geithner: Taxes on 'Small Business' Must Rise So Government Doesn't 'Shrink')
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To: rabscuttle385

“Why do we not have a heavily armed U.S. military presence on the border with Mexico? “

Answer: The United States Government!


32 posted on 11/22/2011 9:54:32 PM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: LouAvul

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2811256/posts

See my comments at post#11 above.

During the National Security debate held this evening, Newt Gingrich said we should be more “humane” in our treatment of illegal aliens.

At this point I’m not sure who I support - but whatever, it won’t be Gov. Romney for whom I vote.


33 posted on 11/22/2011 10:08:04 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: granite
Five illegal immigrants armed with at least two AK-47 semi-automatic assault rifles were hunting for U.S. Border Patrol agents near a desert watering hole known as Mesquite Seep just north of the Arizona-Mexico border when a firefight erupted and one U.S. agent was killed, records show.

They weren't hunting Border Patrol Agents. They were looking for drug smugglers in order to rip the load. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

34 posted on 11/22/2011 10:10:33 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: vette6387
Why do we not have a heavily armed U.S. military presence on the border with Mexico

We don't need the military on the border. The only thing we need is the will to enforce the law properly.

35 posted on 11/22/2011 10:12:59 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: icwhatudo

“We fired beanbags at them? How heartless and inhumane!”

What should we have done ? Shoot bags of beans , rice , and then guacamoule ? /sarc

A federal agent is dead from being shot in the back by “La Raza” while performing his Federal duty. And Eric of the “ Just-us Department” offers an appology a year later .. ??

FUBO !!


36 posted on 11/22/2011 10:39:20 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt ( (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11) by GlockThe Vote)
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To: granite
There's a particularly good post over at The Truth About Guns about Agent Terry today.

ATF Death Watch 119: Spin This

Well worth the short read.

37 posted on 11/22/2011 11:06:14 PM PST by ProfoundMan (Time to finish the Reagan Revolution! - RightyPics.com)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; ...
The cartels were 'hunting' on THIS side of the border. The prey were Border Patrol agents. G-d help us.

Please forgive any double pings.

Reposting links if anyone needs to catch up.

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A Journalist's guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part One

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Two

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Three

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Four

A Journalist's Guide to 'Project Gunwalker'-Part Five

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“’But, I do fear the loss of my honor and would rather die fighting than to have it said that I was without courage. So I will fight you, no matter how insurmountable it may seem, to the death if need be, in order that it may never be said of me that I was not a warrior.’ -Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry”

38 posted on 11/22/2011 11:51:43 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: granite

Nuke Mexico, no more Alamo.


39 posted on 11/23/2011 12:11:29 AM PST by Wiz
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To: granite
Oh? Okay. Then issue these long distance standoff weapons then reach out and touch someone with your cordless long distance drills. Should get some easy work and considerable scratch with .308 180 grain - Winchester and a Leupold Mk 4 scope.
40 posted on 11/23/2011 12:16:58 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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The cartels were 'hunting' on THIS side of the border. The prey were Border Patrol agents. G-d help us.

Thanks MestaMachine.

41 posted on 11/23/2011 12:25:41 AM PST by LucyT (We lived in the best of times, in the best place, in all of Human History. I'm so Thankful.)
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To: LucyT; MestaMachine
The prey were Border Patrol agents.

War.

42 posted on 11/23/2011 12:30:53 AM PST by thecodont
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To: granite

Warms the cockles of Obama and Holder’s hearts if the agents were white or Hispanic.


43 posted on 11/23/2011 12:32:36 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: thecodont

The War On America is run from the WH.


44 posted on 11/23/2011 12:37:10 AM PST by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: mkjessup

Haha, post of the day:)


45 posted on 11/23/2011 1:02:23 AM PST by kelly4c
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To: granite

They were ‘Mexicans’? Catholic Mexicans?


46 posted on 11/23/2011 3:45:55 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SatinDoll

With all due respect, Newt was very pointed in the humane treatment would only be applied after securing the border and then weeding out the illegal pool by very tough employment laws dealing with them. Then on a case by case basis allowing those who are productive and contributing to this country to apply for a status to keep working legally but without any rights that come with citizenship. That application would be pending a security background check they would have to pay for. Those who do not apply will be booted out.

But as we have seen with Arizona and Alabama, overnight after their new laws were enacted, the illegal flight was very noticeable. Only the most hard core criminals would have to be tracked down. That is where we make Sheriff Joe Director of the FBI, Ft. Huachuca becomes the main base for border enforcement as it was in the time of Poncho Villa and reform immigration laws to benefit legal immigration and not just another agency managed to create more work for attorneys.


47 posted on 11/23/2011 4:10:01 AM PST by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: mazda77

Who-ever decided that “NON-LETHAL” bean-bags are an appropriate response in a combat situation should immediately be taken outside and drawn & quartered. This is just insanity.


48 posted on 11/23/2011 4:16:03 AM PST by Fighter@heart (Ask The American Indian how ignoring immigration worked out for them!!! WAKE UP!!)
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To: Fighter@heart

Obviously, you missed the implication of Ft. Huachuca as headquarters for border security and I did not mention non-lethal at all. Unless I have missed something, they don’t issue bean bags with M4’s unless you count shooting one bean per cartridge as bean bags. http://www.m4carbine.net/


49 posted on 11/23/2011 4:23:44 AM PST by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: granite

Maybe the mexos are cooking the bean bags for dinner. That makes the USA sooooooo sensitive to their plight.


50 posted on 11/23/2011 4:30:15 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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