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Abuse victim claims Penn State pedophilia predates Sandusky, current scandal by decades
The New York Daily News ^ | Wednesday, November 16, 2011 | LARRY MCSHANE

Posted on 11/22/2011 10:07:21 PM PST by MrEdd

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1 posted on 11/22/2011 10:07:25 PM PST by MrEdd
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To: little jeremiah; wagglebee

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2 posted on 11/22/2011 10:09:25 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

My guess is, like our government, the colleges and universities, are cesspools of this kind of criminal behavior. Along with returning our government, at all levels, to principles on which the country was founded, we need to thoroughly investigate our “institutions of higher learning” as they have been the breeding ground for much of what is currently wrong in addition to being likely nuclei for sexual depravity.


3 posted on 11/22/2011 10:25:14 PM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: MrEdd

That’s because men who rape young boys are homsexual pedophiles and they can’t let that out becasue it makes homosexuals look worse then they are, which is pretty hrd to do.


4 posted on 11/22/2011 10:25:32 PM PST by stockpirate (Real hero's don't wear capes, they wear dog tags.)
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To: MrEdd

Shut them down. Now.


5 posted on 11/22/2011 10:30:08 PM PST by allmost
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To: MrEdd

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6 posted on 11/22/2011 10:50:59 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: vette6387

We could be changing the laws regarding taxation and colleges.


7 posted on 11/22/2011 11:16:55 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: allmost
Shut them down. Now.

I dream of the day when government gets out of the "education" business at all levels. In my ideal world, the assets of Penn State University would be sold to a private, Christian, Conservative institution such as Liberty, Bob Jones, Hillsdale, Grove City or -- of course -- Harding University. Go Bisons! :-)

8 posted on 11/23/2011 12:01:50 AM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: re_nortex

The whole interstate homosexual pedophile rape thing should be taken care of first. Just My Opinion.


9 posted on 11/23/2011 12:05:45 AM PST by allmost
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To: All

MUST REMEMBER Souless predators are amazingly persuasive — and take pride in their ability to dupe people. They entice their victims by gaining their trust.......the same way they get people to cover for them. The judge’s leniency letting Sandusky go free is another sign WRT how easily predators dupe people-—into being their willing enablers.

Don’t be taken in by a charming, persuasive predator...and be able to overcome his enablers who would talk you out of reporting him.


REALTIME CAUTIONARY TALE It was recently revealed -—— an alarmed mother found Sandusky took her son out of class without her permission on three occassions. When she approached the school, she was told she was being unduly alarmed, b/c, she was reminded, “Jerry has a heart of gold. “

The mom insisted they call the police. But the braindead dupes talked her out of reporting it b/c “that would hurt poor Jerry,” they said.


10 posted on 11/23/2011 12:46:18 AM PST by Liz
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To: MrEdd

http://www.ed.psu.edu/education/default.asp?which=429


11 posted on 11/23/2011 1:36:37 AM PST by EverOnward
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To: Colofornian; dfwgator
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The Penn State administration was quite busy from 2000-2002.

2000: Sandusky caught in the football showers performing oral sodomy on a young boy (after all of the other janitors on shift and the supervisor were told, I doubt it remained a secret).

2001-2002: Ignoring this report.

2002: Taking Mike McQuary's reported anal rape by Sandusky of a preteen boy and eventually turning it to 'horseplay'; failing to notify any police or child protective agency.

Don't know if you missed the other story (I'll need to find it). Pennsylvania child protective services has opened two new cases against Sandusky involving boys who are currently minors.

12 posted on 11/23/2011 2:44:58 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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REALTIME CAUTIONARY TALE It was recently revealed -—— an alarmed mother found Sandusky took her son out of class without her permission on three occassions. When she approached the school, she was told she was being unduly alarmed, b/c, she was reminded, “Jerry has a heart of gold. “

The mom insisted they call the police. But the braindead dupes talked her out of reporting it b/c “that would hurt poor Jerry,” they said.

Liz? Do you have a cite for that? It sounds like what was first said about Victim #1 but has since been refuted by some reliable sources. According to the State Attorney General, two of the coaches at the school immediately spoke with the appropriate officials as soon as the mother expressed a concern, and shared their own concerns. It was primarily their testimony, and not the mother's, that spurred the investigation.

13 posted on 11/23/2011 2:49:23 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Liz

“But the braindead dupes talked her out of reporting it...”

Why do you think they are braindead dupes? Maybe they get their kicks the same way Sandusky does? Birds of a feather...


14 posted on 11/23/2011 2:55:45 AM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: allmost

...”The whole interstate homosexual pedophile rape thing should be taken care of first. Just My Opinion”...

One has to wonder just how high and how far this goes.


15 posted on 11/23/2011 3:23:13 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Scoutmaster; Liz
Update.....

Shamed Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky hit by two new allegations of sexual abuse

The two accusers are minors.

16 posted on 11/23/2011 4:58:14 AM PST by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: Scoutmaster

That story has been all over the forum.......and I believe she was also on TV.


17 posted on 11/23/2011 5:00:16 AM PST by Liz
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To: TalBlack

No question.....pedophiles are colluding,..... to get at kids.

But my point is that they also have an amazing ability to convince normal people how great they are....to get at kids.


18 posted on 11/23/2011 5:03:29 AM PST by Liz
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To: mewzilla

Must be hundreds of victims out there——these sicko pedophiles are insatiable.

Takes a lot of courage for a victim to go public——the cunning sickos count on that.


19 posted on 11/23/2011 5:56:27 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
Takes a lot of courage for a victim to go public——the cunning sickos count on that.

It does, and they do.

Spot on post,Liz.

20 posted on 11/23/2011 6:00:18 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. We have ideas-the Dems only have ideology.)
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To: exit82

Thanks.......if only we had a way to give the victims suppport without intruding on their privacy——to let them know we are with them......that it’s OK to tell.

Pedophiles are truly evil——particularly how they force victims to remain silent........ using coercion, threats, etc. Coercing victims into silence should be a separate charge against these monsters.......in, and of, itself.


21 posted on 11/23/2011 6:14:21 AM PST by Liz
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To: MrEdd

This might be a dirty little secret... while the MSM and media culture has had a field day trashing the Catholic Church for its pedophiles and their defense, it looks like MANY organizations might have this problem, especially when you have men who have access and influence over young boys. Schools, colleges, charitable organizations. The potential scope is sickening.


22 posted on 11/23/2011 7:42:29 AM PST by Paradox (The rich SHOULD be paying more taxes, and they WOULD, if they could make more money.)
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To: Paradox
To clean it up, NOBODY GETS A PASS.

The Catholic Church in every way earned what it got. So have the schools, and so has law enforcement. So have a number of televangelists, Tony Alamo in recent years.

And every creepy pedophile out there has people defending them on the basis of group identity.

Nasty pedophile ________ is really being attacked because he/she is a ________. If he/she wasn't a _______ then nobody would make these accusations.

Can the crap. Root out the pedophiles wherever they are, and every one who tries to cover for them.

Period.

23 posted on 11/23/2011 8:09:17 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd; Black Agnes

A hot tar bath, feathers, and a ride on a rail out of town seems appropriate for starters.


24 posted on 11/23/2011 1:53:06 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: MrEdd

I agree. I’m Roman Catholic and am disgusted by what my church officials have done to cover up their predators.

I’m worried there is a lot of this going on at all levels in many different institutions.


25 posted on 11/23/2011 2:01:11 PM PST by Betis70 (Bruins!)
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To: MrEdd

Amen cubed.

Pedos should be AFRAID to touch a child for fear of the almost certain extremely severe consequences.


26 posted on 11/23/2011 2:09:46 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Some very good comments on the thread. A couple of things I would do if I was In Charge:

1. Death penalty for child rapists, and not after 20 years of appeals. If guilty, 2 weeks for him/her to think about it, and then public execution.

2. NO fedgov money for any college, university, nothing, nada. Let them sink or swim on their own.

3. One more - all promotion of pedophilia, descriptions, etc - totally illegal. Absolutely illegal.

27 posted on 11/23/2011 7:50:19 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: MrEdd

Pedophilia in sports I suspect is widespread.

I know 2 gays who said they were assaulted by their gym teachers.


28 posted on 11/23/2011 7:52:14 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: MrEdd

Another disgusting and vile circumstance is that this pedophile creep sicko professor “works with” autistic children. A lot of people who “work with” disturbed children are in those professions to rape children.

I can’t wait to see the day when the punishment for raping children is execution. I’ll do a happy dance when the laws change, as they must.


29 posted on 11/23/2011 7:54:21 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

“Death penalty for child rapists.....”

Without question.


30 posted on 11/23/2011 7:55:23 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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The professor is a well-known expert of child development, and has received acclaim for his work with autistic children.

This training very likely made his abuse very damaging indeed.

31 posted on 11/23/2011 7:55:28 PM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont

Just read at Drudge that one of the new victims is a family member.


32 posted on 11/23/2011 7:56:50 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: MrEdd

As this whole Penn State thing unfolds, we will continue to be shocked by the evil that pervaded/pervades that instution. It seems that many of that instution need to be instutionalized, but in a prison...where they might become the punchees.


33 posted on 11/23/2011 8:01:08 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: Scoutmaster
Scout, I saw on Drudge that one of victims who just reported their incident, was a family member.

This could add credance to the theory a couple of FReepers had that the guy who saw him raping the boy,could have been a victim when he was young.

I did not know that he lived very close to Sandusky.

34 posted on 11/23/2011 8:01:24 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: Absolutely Nobama; little jeremiah

“Death penalty for child rapists.....”

And long prison terms for their enablers...those who knew and did nothing to stop it. This should include those already fired, and those suspended at Penn State. And it is time to strip the school economically...kill the football program for at least 5 years.


35 posted on 11/23/2011 8:05:30 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: stockpirate

“...men who rape young boys are homsexual pedophiles...”

Ah, but that is what the homos are about...there are ‘recruiting’...


36 posted on 11/23/2011 8:08:33 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: stockpirate
"...because it makes homosexuals look look like what they are, which is pretty hard to deny."

Just needed a minor tweak.

37 posted on 11/23/2011 8:10:31 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Liz
It is actually much worse than that.

From the article:

"After her son told of the abuse he had received she suggested to both the consellor and principal that they should call the police immediately however they were reluctant to do so.

She said: 'I repeated the line three times. I said let's call the police right now. Let's do it. And they continued to stare at me.'

She recalled the principal telling her: 'Jerry has a heart of gold, he's been around all these kids and you really should go home and think about what this is going to do to your son and your family if you do that.'"

I'll tell you what, if it had been MY son and they tried that crap, I would have whipped out my cell phone and called the cops right there on the spot. My next call would have been to my lawyer to make sure the cops didn't try any funny stuff. Then I would be calling every agency I could think of, and I wouldn't have left that office until officers started showing up.

38 posted on 11/23/2011 8:26:09 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: mware

Here ya go:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2811650/posts

Family Member Accuses Sandusky of Abuse
nbcphiladelphia.com ^ | 11/23/11 | NBCPhilidelphia

Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2011 3:07:01 PM by ColdOne

In the latest twist to the Jerry Sandusky alleged child sex scandal, it appears that one of the two new sexual abuse allegations we told you about yesterday was made by a family member of the former Penn State football coach.

Sandusky’s attorney Joe Amendola told Sara Ganim of The Patriot-News that the allegations stem from difficulties within the child’s immediate family, a statement he later confirmed to NBC News. He said “the assault is alleged to have occurred prior to Sandusky’s arrest earlier this month, but was not brought to the authorities attention until after the former Penn State coach was charged.

The Patriot-News is withholding the child’s relationship to Sandusky to shield the child’s identity.”

This and the other new allegation are being investigated by the state’s Children and Youth Services, which means the accusations are coming not from adults, but from children. Right now, there are eight other alleged cases mentioned in the Grand Jury report.

A ninth person reportedly came forward with allegations after Sandusky’s arrest on Nov. 5. In each

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcphiladelphia.com .


39 posted on 11/23/2011 8:31:09 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: MrEdd
Spanier didn't become prez until '95.

OTOH, he was a faculty and staff member at Penn State from 1973 to 1982.

Spanier's academic background is in sociology and family counseling.

40 posted on 11/23/2011 8:41:00 PM PST by Tribune7 (Perry, Newt, Cain or Santorum)
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

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41 posted on 11/23/2011 8:41:30 PM PST by Tribune7 (Perry, Newt, Cain or Santorum)
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Spanier didn't become prez until '95. Exactly. And this was brought to light in 2001, at which time Spanier promply buried it.
42 posted on 11/23/2011 8:49:54 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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And this was brought to light in 2001, at which time Spanier promply buried it.

That is true.

43 posted on 11/23/2011 8:57:50 PM PST by Tribune7 (Perry, Newt, Cain or Santorum)
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To: Tribune7; MrEdd; little jeremiah; Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; ...
Pedophilia is also rampant in Hollywood---with many willing young victims wanting to be stars.

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Pedophiles and sexual deviants are very cunning——they operate well below the radar. They are very proud that they are able to gain the trust of (and to continually dupe) those around them.

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As the saying goes: “Satan’s biggest trick is convincing people he does not exist.”

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I can see hundreds of pages of crimes here——probably the bulk of L/E should center on Spanier and Sandusky personally. However the finances of Sandusky’s Seven Mile Foundation and Spanier’s use of PS finances are probably a hotbed of pedophilia activities. The IRS has targeted “non-profit foundations” as the locus classicus for fraud-—money laundering, tax evasion and other crimes.

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......several questions demand answers: (1) Who granted Sandusky emeritus status after he retired in 1998? (2) Did Spanier and the Trustees approve his tenure? (3) Sandusky’s tenure gave him the keys to the locker room...and free rein to commit atrocities on young young boys in the PS showers.......

It’s a mistake not to connect ex-PS Pres Graham Spanier and Sandusky. These are two very calculated predators——they did not operate in a vacuum. They were very calculated in everything they did.

NOTE Graham Spanier was fired from the PS president’s job along with JoePa........but Spanier and his wife are still on the PS payroll as profs. Hmmmmmm.....looks like ol’ Graham used “leverage” to stay on the payroll. Betcha wife-swappin’ gay lovin’ Graham has some mighty interesting stories to tell.

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Ex-PS president Graham Spanier’s activities at Penn State (see more below) answers the one question on everyone’s mind——how did Sandusky got free rein in the PS showers with young boys? Did Spanier participate, as well? He certainly had an obsession with pederasty and moved hell and high water to give gay sex a foothold in PS.

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MUST READ REFERENCE Paterno is getting the most attention, but FREEPER PA BOOKENDS posted this WRT Graham Spanier, the President – who was also fired.

Spanier’s degrees are in sociology with a chosen emphasis on human sexuality – wife swapping, adolescent sex, etc. Spanier asserted he wanted to make PSU the most LGBT-friendly school in the country. Spanier’s sponsorship gave Penn State the first gay fraternity in the nation. Under Spanier’s leadership, Penn State sponsored “the Tent of Consent” - all about gay sex, as well as C*ntfest (shocker).

Now, shortly after his arrival, Spanier tried to get rid of the legendary Paterno. Why? The football program was bringing in tons of money. Paterno was (and remained) one of the LOWEST paid college coaches in the country. M/M Paterno donated millions to the University. Spanier lost the battle, but one has to ask: why was Spanier so eager to get rid of Joe??

It becomes clearer and clearer why Spanier was out to ditch Paterno-—Spanier had to remove any and all obstacles in his path to solidifying Penn State as a protected pedophilia haven for Sandusky (and whoever else was involved in these heinous activities).

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Now isn’t that interesting-——Spanier was approved for the president’s job DESPITE recommendations against it by those who knew of his push to normalize homosexuality. Those who voted to approve Spanier should also be investigated——they are in deep, deep doo-doo. What did Spanier offer for a vote to approve him for the job?

44 posted on 11/23/2011 10:29:00 PM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
Great post, Liz. Thanks.
45 posted on 11/24/2011 6:10:49 AM PST by Tribune7 (Perry, Newt, Cain or Santorum)
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To: Liz
And don't forget this
46 posted on 11/24/2011 6:18:59 AM PST by Tribune7 (Perry, Newt, Cain or Santorum)
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To: MrEdd

As I have stated on other threads, this practice has gone on in the Bay Area of San Fran since the late 60s. The raping of little boys is considered a worthy and prideful goal of male homosexuals everywhere. It is part of the lifestyle no one talks about except open NAMBLA members.


47 posted on 11/24/2011 4:38:08 PM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Nik Naym

That is intense. So basically it’s not just Pedo State University, but Pedo Town, Pedo Police Department, Pedo County.


48 posted on 11/24/2011 4:55:07 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Liz

But Paterno knew pedophilia was going on and did practically nothing about it, so why would Spanier want to get rid of him?


49 posted on 11/24/2011 4:57:33 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Someone I know well got stuck in traffic in SF in the late 80s to 91, and had to witness a “Gay Pride” parade. He saw men wearing leather jock straps, collars, whips, assorted S&M paraphernalia, with little boys on chain leashes and collars around their necks, some getting rides on the perverts shoulders, some walking along.


50 posted on 11/24/2011 4:59:47 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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